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Sammy Samusu
(10-11-2017, 04:32 PM)
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No Tharja, _________ .

Originally Posted by Laplasakos


He said regarding PS4 that ''that thing is a wrap next year''. In what state do you he is implying it except from dead/finished?

In the context of competition, hence the 3DS and Vita comparison preceding it.
Laplasakos
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(10-11-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by NintendosBooger

In the context of competition, hence the 3DS and Vita comparison preceding it.

If that's the way you intended it, then you are probably right. But when you said ''that thing'' i assumed you were talking about PS4 specifically and not the LTD comparison of PS4/Switch.
silpheed-mcd
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(10-11-2017, 04:40 PM)


Pac-man...

Nintendo: 69,9%

Sony: 29,9%

Microsoft: 0,2%

No psvr (?) and famicom mini (368.913 from famitsu) sales included.
Kouriozan
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(10-11-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Fiendcode

Nope, here have 3 more next month!

Honestly more excited for the ports than Fire Emblem Musou.
lyrick
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(10-11-2017, 04:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Laplasakos

If that's the way you intended it, then you are probably right. But when you said ''that thing'' i assumed you were talking about PS4 and not the LTD comparison of PS4/Switch comparison.

For some reason you tried to marry the middling performance of the PS4 to the respectable performance of the Switch.

The two don't share a weekly performance chart for a reason, they're not in the same league.
Chris1964
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(10-11-2017, 04:42 PM)

Originally Posted by ggx2ac

Gran Turismo Sport is the only thing that comes to mind.

Now that Everybody's Golf said good bye too, Gran Turismo is Sony's last big Japanese developed IP in question.
test_account
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(10-11-2017, 04:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Laplasakos

Actually your post is similar to the one he quoted and said that about PS4 (so he didn't agree with that at all).

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=251663381

Yeah, i see what you mean. Even 3DS and Vita were active systems side by side. It will be the same with PS4 and Switch too.


Originally Posted by lyrick

For some reason you tried to marry the middling performance of the PS4 to the respectable performance of the Switch.

The two don't share a weekly performance chart for a reason, they're not in the same league.

Thats not were the confusion was. It was about PS4 being done by the end of this year.
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(10-11-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by lyrick

For some reason you tried to marry the middling performance of the PS4 to the respectable performance of the Switch.

The two don't share a weekly performance chart for a reason, they're not in the same league.

No i didn't. Where did you see that?
darkstar0155
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(10-11-2017, 04:45 PM)

Originally Posted by L~A

Finally, 600k on Switch alone. With Wii U, we're probably at 750k right now. Looks like 1 million could happen this year, for Switch + Wii U + digital, after all.

Yep. I always pegged it at within 1 year of release. However, it is all going to depend on how it performs during the holidays and if they give it a extra marketing push when the 2nd DLC drops. It will need a couple big holiday weeks to do it, but man its going to be close! When digital is included it has to easily be over 800K digital+switch+wiiu
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(10-11-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by test_account

Yeah, i see what you mean. Even 3DS and Vita were active systems side by side. It will be the same with PS4 and Switch too.



Thats not were the confusion was. It was about PS4 being done by the end of this year.

The MonHun World test is in January, if the platform fails that test it will probably be completely done.

Originally Posted by Laplasakos

No i didn't. Where did you see that?

with this sad attempt at coupling.

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryN

Alongside PS4. There's enough (exclusive) games coming to both, and the hardware sales they're currently generating are good.

oops, not you. (just the starting point for this shit)
WestEgg
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(10-11-2017, 04:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by silpheed-mcd



Pac-man...

Nintendo: 69,9%

Sony: 29,9%

Microsoft: 0,2%

No psvr (?) and famicom mini (368.913 from famitsu) sales included.

Pac-man will probably be back from November 1st through the end of the year. Probably up until MHW.

Originally Posted by Laplasakos

If that's the way you intended it, then you are probably right. But when you said ''that thing'' i assumed you were talking about PS4 and not the LTD comparison of PS4/Switch comparison.

Of course that's the way I intended it. I know what I said. There's no "if." You had chosen to interpret it differently driven by your own bias. And if you're going to use air quotes (" ") be accurate. I said "THIS thing's a wrap."
casiopao
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(10-11-2017, 04:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

Now that Everybody's Golf said good bye too, Gran Turismo is Sony's last big Japanese developed IP in question.

I had zero trust that GT will do well in japan there. Decline is almost 100% and Sony would hope that Europe is going to help this series.
Laplasakos
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(10-11-2017, 05:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by NintendosBooger

Of course that's the way I intended it. I know what I said. There's no "if." You had chosen to interpret it differently driven by your own bias. And if you're going to use air quotes (" ") be accurate. I said "THIS thing's a wrap."

Seriously now? I made a mistake at interpreting your words and you accuse me of bias?

Wow, just wow. Bravo.
Chris1964
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(10-11-2017, 05:08 PM)
Since Arms still struggles to sell 200k, its western performance wil be more interesting this and last quarter. It has found a steady baseline of new buyers in Japan every week, in the end it will have a respectable LTD since Nintendo continues to support the game.
test_account
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(10-11-2017, 05:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by lyrick

The MonHun World test is in January, if the platform fails that test it will probably be completely done.

Seems unlikely to me that the PS4 sales will completely drop off in February/March 2018 if MHW underperforms.
Mory Dunz
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(10-11-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

Since Arms still struggles to sell 200k, its western performance wil be more interesting this and last quarter. It has found a steady baseline of new buyers in Japan every week, in the end it will have a respectable LTD since Nintendo continues to support the game.

If sales are steady, there's gonna be a lot of salt.
and if sales tail off badly there's gonna be a lot of salt

all of a sudden arms is more divisive than splatoon


edit:
the heck does "done" even mean? What are you guys talking about?
BrokenJohnCena
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(10-11-2017, 05:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

Since Arms still struggles to sell 200k, its western performance wil be more interesting this and last quarter. It has found a steady baseline of new buyers in Japan every week, in the end it will have a respectable LTD since Nintendo continues to support the game.

will the game make it to 500k LTD,not the next splatoon but still enough to be the next Nintendo’s B+ series
rzmunch
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(10-11-2017, 05:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mory Dunz

If sales are steady, there's gonna be a lot of salt.
and if sales tail off badly there's gonna be a lot of salt

all of a sudden arms is more divisive than splatoon


edit:
the heck does "done" even mean? What are you guys talking about?

Like here?

Originally Posted by lyrick

The MonHun World test is in January, if the platform fails that test it will probably be completely done.


I think it means "kaput" / Dead? English is not my first language.
Psycho_Mantis
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(10-11-2017, 05:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Fiendcode

Despite growth in region, Asia is still a drop in the bucket compared to Japan for consoles. And in the west Switch is selling incredibly well, and notably Japanese 3rd party games on it seem to be outperforming PS4 (Disgaea 5, Puyo Puyo Tetris).

Sony’s weakness in Japan could definitely be an issue for them in the future versus a Japan dominating, globally successful Switch.

Need receipts on Asia being a drop in the bucket. A drop seems very hyperbolic.

You listed two niche Japanese third party games, both at launch and your last statement just seems even more disillusioned with reality, considering the Ps4 has nearly 10 times the userbase of the SW and is outselling it worldwide.

This idea that PS4 would see a decrease of Japanese support couldn't be further from reality when nearly every Japanese third party game is releasing on it, far more than any other platform.

Originally Posted by casiopao

I had zero trust that GT will do well in japan there. Decline is almost 100% and Sony would hope that Europe is going to help this series.

From GT6? I think GTS could outdo GT6. You do understand that even the late GT6 has sold near 6 million. GT as a series doesn't really need help to do well, it needs help to get back to its extraordinary status of 10 million+

Some say the racing market has declined severely.....we'll have to see.

Originally Posted by Chris1964

Since Arms still struggles to sell 200k, its western performance wil be more interesting this and last quarter. It has found a steady baseline of new buyers in Japan every week, in the end it will have a respectable LTD since Nintendo continues to support the game.

It hasn't done notably well in the West either. Decent opening but doesn't seem to have any legs. Curious how much of their initial 1.18 million shipment they've sold.
Vena
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(10-11-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Dragon's Dogma is another bottom-tier performance. UK numbers were at comical levels, and it barely sells 10k FW in Japan now. This has been a rough year for their catalog.

Who was this port even for?
Mory Dunz
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(10-11-2017, 05:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by rzmunch

Like here?

Originally Posted by lyrick

The MonHun World test is in January, if the platform fails that test it will probably be completely done.


I think it means "kaput" / Dead? English is not my first language.

yea, might as well cancel KH3 and FF7R
Cause MHW gonna end the PS4.
Heartskips
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(10-11-2017, 05:42 PM)
Some people here will be really surprised when Nintendo announces ARMS surpassed 2M.
Gotdatmoney
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(10-11-2017, 05:44 PM)

Originally Posted by Mory Dunz

yea, might as well cancel KH3 and FF7R
Cause MHW gonna end the PS4.

KH3 and FF7R are never coming out anyway. They barely qualify as real projects :P
Jack The Nipper
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(10-11-2017, 05:46 PM)

Originally Posted by LordOcidax

NSW Software domination.

Doesn't seem that way
Vinnk
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(10-11-2017, 05:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Heartskips

Some people here will be really surprised when Nintendo announces ARMS surpassed 2M.

Nope.

As soon as it sells that much it's sales will be declared "as expected".

Are you new here?
Vena
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(10-11-2017, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mory Dunz

yea, might as well cancel KH3 and FF7R
Cause MHW gonna end the PS4.

FFVIIR is almost assuredly at least cross-gen at this point. Depending on how bad the project was to begin with, it may end up a "token" launch on the PS4 in three years with Vita-2017-levels of performance.
Principate
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(10-11-2017, 05:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sammy Samusu

No Tharja, _________ .

I was waiting for this.
Chris1964
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(10-11-2017, 05:48 PM)

Originally Posted by BrokenJohnCena

will the game make it to 500k LTD,not the next splatoon but still enough to be the next Nintendo’s B+ series

500k LTD will be a succesful result in Japan. So far it has legs. There is no contest for Switch this December, holiday sales could make it a 350-400k seller by January.
lyrick
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(10-11-2017, 05:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mory Dunz

yea, might as well cancel KH3 and FF7R
Cause MHW gonna end the PS4.

WTF do possible PS5 releases have to do with the PS4?
Mory Dunz
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(10-11-2017, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Psycho_Mantis

It hasn't done notably well in the West either. Decent opening but doesn't seem to have any legs. Curious how much of their initial 1.18 million shipment they've sold.

here's the precursor of what may be coming as I said
Chris1964
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(10-11-2017, 05:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Vinnk

Nope.

As soon as it sells that much it's sales will be declared "as expected".

Are you new here?

If someone makes a list how many things considered expected for Switch for now comparing to January I think he will need many lines.
Aters
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(10-11-2017, 05:52 PM)
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No PS4 won't be done. See how many years it took for PS3 to die?
Heartskips
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(10-11-2017, 05:53 PM)

Originally Posted by Vinnk

Nope.

As soon as it sells that much it's sales will be declared "as expected".

Are you new here?

Used to lurk only, but yes you're right. lol

Most Switch games will get big bumps this holiday season, so people should be prepared to see Arms coming back already.
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(10-11-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by JonnyDBrit

Oh aye - I was suspicious of such being the tactic all the way back when ARMS' release was imminent. It's just slightly sad because it also caps the console's chances of catching up to the 3DS - which would just be astounding to see - before week 36 on kinda spoils any hope there.

Huh? Holding back some supply for a major release doesn't change total number of sales. Just shifts when units are sold.
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(10-11-2017, 05:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

If someone makes a list how many things considered expected for Switch for now comparing to January I think he will need many lines.

Apparently, Since October '16 Mario Kart 8 Deluxe was always obviously going to outsell MK8's 8 million WW.

weird cause I remembered a lot of "this game was on wii U, why is anyone going to buy a switch for it" and "port machine" >_>
Laplasakos
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(10-11-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aters

No PS4 won't be done. See how many years it took for PS3 to die?

I can see PS4 getting big japanese games at least until 2020 (cross gen with PS5 of course).
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(10-11-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by boiled goose

Huh? Holding back some supply for a major release doesn't change total number of sales. Just shifts when units are sold.

Yes, but when they happen is kind of a factor when comparing with another console's sales aligned week for week. The 3DS, when aligned, is soon to gain a massive sales boost that would make it exceedingly unlikely for the Switch to catch up.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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(10-11-2017, 06:04 PM)
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17./19. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 for Nintendo Switch <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.09.07} (¥6.800) - 4.339 / 40.424 (-2%)

This one surprises me, i guess fighterZ is a lock now.
Mory Dunz
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(10-11-2017, 06:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

This one surprises me, i guess fighterZ is a lock now.

erm...
Little Mons†er
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(10-11-2017, 06:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Effect

Possible the roster really hurt the game. It's a potentially fixable thing if that really was the cause or a big part of it. A few new character announcements (from non-Fates and Awakening games) and that they'll be free can correct that and cause the game to possibly pick back up in sales slowly. If it's general disinterest in Fire Emblem spin-offs that's a big problem and there will be no sequel. If it's general oversaturation then that's a bigger issue and that next proper entry into the series that's going to be on the Switch needs to be delayed a year or two to give the franchise some breathing room. There have been a lot of Fire Emblem games in a very short amount of time. Especially if you played all of Fates.

Anyone know how the advertising for FEW was in Japan? I don't think the US push for it has been that good to be honest. I would say things has been bad marketing wise.

this, im worried about the oversaturation of fire emblem games so far... wonder how Fire Emblem Switch's performance will reflect this
Chris1964
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(10-11-2017, 06:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Heartskips

Some people here will be really surprised when Nintendo announces ARMS surpassed 2M.

2m LTD for Arms should be expected at this point and a good result. Hitting 3m, now that would be a great result and guarantee a sequel sometime. December sales will be crucial for that chance to exist.
kinger256
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(10-11-2017, 06:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

This one surprises me, i guess fighterZ is a lock now.

I would say that it's entirely dependant on western sales. That's always where the lionshare of DBZ games have sold. Xenoverse 2 selling 10k or 100k in japan is probably not substantial enough to affect such a decision.
Aters
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(10-11-2017, 06:17 PM)
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No. The problem with FEW is not the roster. The problem is FE is a turned based SRPG franchise and its fans don't give a fuck about Mousou.The game will die before DLCs roll out.

Fans will be there when a real FE comes out that is not a remake of a bad game.
Durante
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(10-11-2017, 06:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Vena

Dragon's Dogma is another bottom-tier performance. UK numbers were at comical levels, and it barely sells 10k FW in Japan now. This has been a rough year for their catalog.

Who was this port even for?

The PC port is sitting at 824k, so I don't think it's too far-fetched if they thought that they could sell a few 100k on consoles worldwide (which would easily pay for the port).
Salvadora
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(10-11-2017, 06:21 PM)
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Is ARMS still getting bundled with Switch on Amazon?
Xbro
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(10-11-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sammy Samusu

No Tharja, good riddance .

There.
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(10-11-2017, 06:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Durante

The PC port is sitting at 824k, so I don't think it's too far-fetched if they thought that they could sell a few 100k on consoles worldwide (which would easily pay for the port).

I think the slightly higher price point turned people off, especially when Capcom has been setting the expectations of their PS4/XB1 ports right at $20. It seems really weird that they priced it higher in general, especially with how decidedly mediocre its sales were on last gen consoles.
BanjoLayleeYookaKazooie
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(10-11-2017, 06:38 PM)

Originally Posted by Xbro

There.

Lol.

I like Tharja. Hope she's DLC.

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