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Strangelove77
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(10-13-2017, 05:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arrrammis

You level up your mastery (basically your account level) by using lots of different weapons. Leveling up the same weapon again won't give you any more mastery, so you'll have to use lots of different weapons as you play, but you can still keep a few of your favorite weapons around.

And leveling up your account level does what exactly? You have better stats?
I guess I should drop the second heat sword I just got then.
NullPointer
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(10-13-2017, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Strangelove77

And leveling up your account level does what exactly? You have better stats?

No better stats no.

Its a slow progression meta level that has an effect on a lot of game systems, especially tings like daily caps. As you gain Mastery Ranks you gain the ability to craft new weapons (that are Mastery locked), raise your daily caps in terms of bonus Syndicate Reputation gains, void traces, and trading limits, and more.

Every two levels you gain a saved loadout slot (Warframe+Weapons+Gear+Companion), and each level of Mastery is basically a free (advance on a) level of experience on weapons and frames and companions. This is a little tricky though, so consider that at starting mastery with an unranked weapon or frame you have zero mod capacity to work with in terms of slotting mods. If you're rank 16 Mastery, your unranked weapons and frames can slot mods as if they were level 16. The side effect of this is you don't gain any mod capacity until you rank the item from zero up to beyond level 16 at which point you start to gain more capacity to slot more mods as usual.

The end result of this is that the longer you've played the the more power you can squeeze out of your low level gear from mods, and thus the quicker you can level them up.

These days whenever I start an unranked loadout, I usually head right into level 15-20 missions because of Mastery rank bonuses.
ZugZug123
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(10-13-2017, 06:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by ph1l0z0ph3r

So how do you unlock the archwing in plains?

If you go to Foundry you will see an Archwing launcher blueprint. Needs some of the materials found on the plain to craft, then you can fly on the planes.
Spirit of Jazz
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(10-13-2017, 06:21 AM)
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I'm really enjoying the approach to fishing and mining.
Uthred
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(10-13-2017, 06:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by Spirit of Jazz

I'm a little dissapointed with the plains. I assumed that they'd be big multiplayer spaces as opposed to being limited to 4 players.

I ended up switching to solo to do them because group play lead to more host migration than usual. Hopefully that sorts itself out as seamless multiplayer is one of the games strengths.

Originally Posted by ZugZug123

If you go to Foundry you will see an Archwing launcher blueprint. Needs some of the materials found on the plain to craft, then you can fly on the planes.

Oh cool so you start with it? Then whats the archwing dojo research for?
Primus
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(10-13-2017, 06:58 AM)
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Currently at 166 separate instances of Cetus.

That's pretty damn impressive.
Nokterian
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(10-13-2017, 07:27 AM)
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Downloading as we speak, zaphyr is almost finished in the foundry going to use here also for fast travel.

With the movement system this is going to be fun instead of being in small corridors.
Gattsu25
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(10-13-2017, 07:36 AM)
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I'm near the end of the War Within. I've just gotten the Transference ability and I need to posses one of these maws to continue along the quest...only nothing happens.

I stun the bad guy and I tap 5 while aiming at various parts of it. Nothing
I stun the bad guy and I hold 5. Nothing
I stun the bad guy and I hold Numpad 5. Nothing
I stun the bad guy and I tap Numpad 5 while aiming at various parts of it. Nothing
I remap the key to Mouse 5 and try both the taps and hold. Nothing
I ALT+F4 out of the game and replay from the checkpoint try again. Nothing
I try everything again with the "Align Attacks to Camera" toggle disabled and again with it re-enabled. Nothing


I'm pretty sure my entire PC save is fucked right now. I *just* did this quest on PS4 last night so I'm aware of what should be happening.

Ugh.
derFeef
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(10-13-2017, 08:03 AM)
Hm it's locked for me, I have everything unlocked on Earth tho.
Man when this game does not explain something, it really does not explain and care.
NullPointer
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(10-13-2017, 08:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nokterian

Downloading as we speak, zaphyr is almost finished in the foundry going to use here also for fast travel.

OK, that sounds like fun
Sarcasm
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(10-13-2017, 08:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

Hm it's locked for me, I have everything unlocked on Earth tho.
Man when this game does not explain something, it really does not explain and care.

The game is pretty unintuitive to tell the truth.


BTW how do you get the drops on twitch? I am linked. Been watching a dude streaming warfare.
chogidogs
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(10-13-2017, 08:42 AM)
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Originally Posted by Arrrammis

You level up your mastery (basically your account level) by using lots of different weapons. Leveling up the same weapon again won't give you any more mastery, so you'll have to use lots of different weapons as you play, but you can still keep a few of your favorite weapons around.

Does leveling up your weapon again after forma not count in your mastery?
Orochinagis
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(10-13-2017, 08:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by chogidogs

Does leveling up your weapon again after forma not count in your mastery?

Nop. Have to be a new one , vandal or derá variations counts too
Polk
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(10-13-2017, 09:16 AM)

Originally Posted by Strangelove77

And leveling up your account level does what exactly? You have better stats?
I guess I should drop the second heat sword I just got then.

Kinda but not really.
Leveling your overall rank will give you aditional slots, give access to more weapons and increase base capability of weapons and frames. If your MR is let's say 10 even if your weapon/frame is level 0-10 you have 10 points you can use to add mods.
Bonezz
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(10-13-2017, 09:21 AM)
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Man these download speeds on the launcher are reminding me why I stopped playing in the first place. Is there any way to speed this up? My internet is 220 down 17 up and caps out at 27MB/s and the launcher is just downloading at 250kb/s. I dont think I've ever gotten more than 1MB/s since I've played this game in closed beta.
Nokterian
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(10-13-2017, 09:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by NullPointer

OK, that sounds like fun

After watching this video i can understand why she is the best fit because you need to farm first to get 50x archwing to make them and to use them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Z4Iy2ywYU
Manzoon
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(10-13-2017, 09:33 AM)
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Originally Posted by Primus

Currently at 166 separate instances of Cetus.

That's pretty damn impressive.

The craziest thing I saw earlier was looking at the Plains of Eidolon from the navigation screen and seeing "2031 open squads".

Well trying to play with my friend was pretty difficult to get anything started due to connection issues. Solo was working great and I had a fun time getting my feet wet with fishing and mining. Looks like the new custom weapons will rely heavily on all the new resources in the plains.
GroundCombo
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(10-13-2017, 09:37 AM)
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I only had a little jaunt on the plains when the update came out before getting to bed, but it was fun to see Cetus and run around the area. I can see that a lot of grinding for various resources will be needed, and some bounties need tweaking - looking for the three crate needles in the circular haystack is annoying as shit, and escorting the drone sucks - but yeah, really exciting overall. DE continues to do amazing things.
chogidogs
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(10-13-2017, 11:16 AM)
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Great! I'm stuck in the war within quest cause the transference is bugged. Time to call it a day I guess.

Originally Posted by Orochinagis

Nop. Have to be a new one , vandal or derá variations counts too

Thanks. I guess that means the ones I don't play much will stay that way.
Gamesadict
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(10-13-2017, 11:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by chogidogs

Great! I'm stuck in the war within quest cause the transference is bugged. Time to call it a day I guess

Happened to me just now in the Harrow quest. Logged out and back in and that fixed it. Don't know why it's bugged or why that fixed it in the first place.
derFeef
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(10-13-2017, 11:44 AM)
Apparently I need Vor's Prize to be able to get to the Plains. I have that finished... I still can't access it?
Hyun Sai
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(10-13-2017, 11:48 AM)
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One question : did they improve the horrible Archwing mode and control ? The fact that some of those missions were mandatory turned me off when I tried to play the PS4 version.
Kilrogg
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(10-13-2017, 11:49 AM)
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Speaking of glitches. My Frost prime has had some kind of small weird red blob on the side of its neck (looks a bit like an infestation mark) for a while, and for the life of me I have no idea where it comes from or if it's supposed to be there until I complete The War Within or something (much like Vor's Ascaris device before you finish that quest). But I doubt it because my Excalibur doesn't have it.

Needless to say I don't have any accessories on, and making all my weapons invisible when holstered doesn't have an impact either.

Frankly at a loss. I can't play the game right now so I can't take a screenshot, but any advice is welcome.

[EDIT]

Originally Posted by derFeef

Apparently I need Vor's Prize to be able to get to the Plains. I have that finished... I still can't access it?

Make sure you go to Cetus first. It's the node right next to PoE on the Earth starmap. Cetus is the city that gives you access to PoE.
derFeef
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(10-13-2017, 11:53 AM)

Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Make sure you go to Cetus first. It's the node right next to PoE on the Earth starmap. Cetus is the city that gives you access to PoE.

Ah silly me, that might be it - I tried accessing it directly.
Weird that there is no "introduction quest" or something similar.
Kilrogg
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(10-13-2017, 11:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

Ah silly me, that might be it - I tried accessing it directly.
Weird that there is no "introduction quest" or something similar.

It's alright, took me a few seconds to get it too.

Knowing DE, the introduction quest will come 2 years from now :p.
Cosmic Schwung
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(10-13-2017, 11:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Speaking of glitches. My Frost prime has had some kind of small weird red blob on the side of its neck (looks a bit like an infestation mark) for a while, and for the life of me I have no idea where it comes from or if it's supposed to be there until I complete The War Within or something (much like Vor's Ascaris device before you finish that quest). But I doubt it because my Excalibur doesn't have it.

Needless to say I don't have any accessories on, and making all my weapons invisible when holstered doesn't have an impact either.

Frankly at a loss. I can't play the game right now so I can't take a screenshot, but any advice is welcome.

I haven't seen it myself, but I know it's possible to pick up an infection.
Used-ID
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(10-13-2017, 11:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Speaking of glitches. My Frost prime has had some kind of small weird red blob on the side of its neck (looks a bit like an infestation mark) for a while, and for the life of me I have no idea where it comes from or if it's supposed to be there until I complete The War Within or something (much like Vor's Ascaris device before you finish that quest). But I doubt it because my Excalibur doesn't have it.

Needless to say I don't have any accessories on, and making all my weapons invisible when holstered doesn't have an impact either.

Frankly at a loss. I can't play the game right now so I can't take a screenshot, but any advice is welcome.

In the back of your ship (at least in the starter ship) you'll see a door that is partially covered in crud from the infestation levels. The door will open and you sit in a chair and it is automatically removed. Afterwards you can't enter the for again. What it is and how you got it is a mystery to me though
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(10-13-2017, 11:58 AM)
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Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Speaking of glitches. My Frost prime has had some kind of small weird red blob on the side of its neck (looks a bit like an infestation mark) for a while, and for the life of me I have no idea where it comes from or if it's supposed to be there until I complete The War Within or something (much like Vor's Ascaris device before you finish that quest). But I doubt it because my Excalibur doesn't have it.

Needless to say I don't have any accessories on, and making all my weapons invisible when holstered doesn't have an impact either.

Frankly at a loss. I can't play the game right now so I can't take a screenshot, but any advice is welcome.

[EDIT]

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Make sure you go to Cetus first. It's the node right next to PoE on the Earth starmap. Cetus is the city that gives you access to PoE.


Your Frost prime is infected. It happens when you group up with someone already infected. The cyst on its neck will grow until a small tentacle like thingy will pop out of it waving around (its how they say hi!)

Its harmless, dont worry. You can get rid of it on the infected room on your ship (wich you can only open when infected, i believe,). Once you do, that particular warframe will be inmune to the infection and wont catch it again.
Shifty.
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(10-13-2017, 12:00 PM)
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I was questing with a friend last night when the update dropped. We wandered around Cetus for a bit, but there were some server issues so we couldn't see eachother or enter the plains together.

Looking forward to seeing what this new content has to offer when I get off work for the day.

Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Speaking of glitches. My Frost prime has had some kind of small weird red blob on the side of its neck (looks a bit like an infestation mark) for a while, and for the life of me I have no idea where it comes from or if it's supposed to be there until I complete The War Within or something (much like Vor's Ascaris device before you finish that quest). But I doubt it because my Excalibur doesn't have it.

Wait until it grows a tentacle (takes about a week) and then visit the infested room at the back of the orbiter to cure and inoculate your frame. It's a viral thing spread between players.
Kilrogg
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(10-13-2017, 12:04 PM)
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Ew. I heard about that in Skillup's video review, and I'd seen the corruption at the back of my ship, but I somehow forgot about it. So nobody has any idea what it does (if it does something) or why it even exists, right?

[EDIT] I was gonna say: if you're playing Nidus, you probably wouldn't notice it anyway lol.
derFeef
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(10-13-2017, 12:05 PM)
Honestly I want that. Would fit my Nidus.

Originally Posted by Tabby

It’s used to create the Helminth Charger, an infected dog companion.

Now I really want that.

Fuck this game is so big.
Tabby
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(10-13-2017, 12:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kilrogg

Ew. I heard about that in Skillup's video review, and I'd seen the corruption at the back of my ship, but I somehow forgot about it. So nobody has any idea what it does (if it does something) or why it even exists, right?

It’s used to create the Helminth Charger, an infected dog companion.
Danneee
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(10-13-2017, 12:07 PM)
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Damn, this is out? I need to reactivate my PS+...
Hyun Sai
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(10-13-2017, 12:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by Danneee

Damn, this is out? I need to reactivate my PS+...

You don't need PS+ to play this.

Or perhaps I'm wrong and they changed the policy ?
Kilrogg
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(10-13-2017, 12:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tabby

It’s used to create the Helminth Charger, an infected dog companion.

Oooooh I see. Guess I'll wait a bit before popping that zit then. Thanks.
IvorB
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(10-13-2017, 01:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Spirit of Jazz

I'm a little dissapointed with the plains. I assumed that they'd be big multiplayer spaces as opposed to being limited to 4 players.

Oh... I was hoping it was that too. Or at least have a slightly higher player count than 4.

Do people run into other player on the Plains or is it mostly solitary?

Anyways, I have now begun preparing my weapons and equipment for when this hits on PS4 (hopefully with all the bugs worked out).
Kilrogg
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(10-13-2017, 02:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by IvorB

Oh... I was hoping it was that too. Or at least have a slightly higher player count than 4.

Do people run into other player on the Plains or is it mostly solitary?

Anyways, I have now begun preparing my weapons and equipment for when this hits on PS4 (hopefully with all the bugs worked out).

It's like any node really: you're teamed up with 3 other people, and you won't see anyone else while you're on the plains. Obviously when you're in town, like in any relay, you see lots of people.
Niceguydan8
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(10-13-2017, 02:39 PM)
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I really like the concept of the Plains. I hope DE continues down this road with different planets. I wouldn't mind them upping the party size a bit (8 is probably a good number) and making the areas a bit larger, but so far I think it's a really well done update.

Originally Posted by Kilrogg

The thing that's still not clear to me about PoE is whether the map is procedurally generated like everything else (as in different layouts), or if it's the encounters and physical things like encampments and the like... Or just the encounters?



The map itself is not procedurally generated. An enemy camp will always be in the same spot. A cave will always be in the same spot. Steve (their creative director) said that they plan on adding procedurally generated underground caves accessible through the Plains, but I don't know when that would be.
Kilrogg
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The thing that's still not clear to me about PoE is whether the map is procedurally generated like everything else (as in different layouts), or if it's the encounters and physical things like encampments and the like... Or just the encounters?
wwm0nkey
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(10-13-2017, 02:48 PM)
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Really like the open world stuff. Can't wait to see more of it
Glitchesarecool
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(10-13-2017, 04:15 PM)
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ViviOggi in the discord found a nice fishing spot with two cozy rocks to sit on while you wait for the fish to appear.
Strangelove77
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(10-13-2017, 04:15 PM)
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So is it ok to sell maxed out weapons? Are there any negative effects?
CaptainAmeijin
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(10-13-2017, 04:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Strangelove77

So is it ok to sell maxed out weapons? Are there any negative effects?

Unless you consider not having a maxed out weapon a negative effect, you should be fine. Keep in mind that some weapons are used to build other weapons. You might want to do a quick check of the weapon's wiki page to make sure before tossing it in the trash.
Uthred
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(10-13-2017, 05:14 PM)
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Making it such a chore to get Archwing on the plains seems like a misstep. The resources required for the charges are fairly steep. I'd prefer if it was just on cool down or something.
voodooray
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(10-13-2017, 05:25 PM)

Originally Posted by Glitchesarecool

ViviOggi in the discord found a nice fishing spot with two cozy rocks to sit on while you wait for the fish to appear.

That's a hell of a spot, thanks!
Tovarisc
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(10-13-2017, 05:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Uthred

Making it such a chore to get Archwing on the plains seems like a misstep. The resources required for the charges are fairly steep. I'd prefer if it was just on cool down or something.

You can purchase those charges with Platinum, right?
Manzoon
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Originally Posted by Strangelove77

So is it ok to sell maxed out weapons? Are there any negative effects?

Some weapons are crafting components in other weapons blueprints. Like stated above, check the wiki if you are unsure.
Strider
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(10-13-2017, 05:45 PM)
So I had some of the cores to turn in for Quill standing but when I go to turn them in it says I have a daily cap of 0?? So since I have a cap of 0 it says I've reached the limit already and so I can't turn any of them in for standing...

What am I missing here.... ?
Glitchesarecool
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(10-13-2017, 06:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Uthred

Making it such a chore to get Archwing on the plains seems like a misstep. The resources required for the charges are fairly steep. I'd prefer if it was just on cool down or something.

It should have just been a market credit purchase.

Originally Posted by Strider

So I had some of the cores to turn in for Quill standing but when I go to turn them in it says I have a daily cap of 0?? So since I have a cap of 0 it says I've reached the limit already and so I can't turn any of them in for standing...

What am I missing here.... ?

Others have been having this problem, it seems to be a bug. Just collect the cores you can for now.
Strider
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(10-13-2017, 06:09 PM)

Originally Posted by Glitchesarecool

Others have been having this problem, it seems to be a bug. Just collect the cores you can for now.

Ok cool. Figured it was most likely a bug but just checking...

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And yea the situation with enabling archwing on the plains is the most disappointing thing about PoE right now to me. They made such a big deal about flying around the plains pre-release and it looked really fun... But then it's so grindy to actually get the materials to craft what you need and then on top of that it's limited use? Such a bummer and makes me just not want to bother with it at all.

I'm totally fine with some grinding of course but this in particular was handled poorly IMO.

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