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Celebrities you really hope aren't paedophiles...
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JumpJeff84
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Darklord said:This reminds me of the Hey Dad! scandal. It was a comedy sitcom here in Australia in the 80's/90's. It was pretty funny and I always liked the dad in it. Recently it came to light he was a pedophile and had molested all these kids including the kids on the show. Wtf.
It would be like finding out George on Seinfeld is a pedo or something. Ruined the show and all my memories of it.
Pedophiles like that aren't JUST into kids though are they? Isn't pedophila more like a fetish rather than a sexuality? Just date an adult and move on. I like women, just because I don't have one doesn't mean I'll start freaking out that I might rape one or molest them or something and end up getting a chemical castration(*shudder*).
I don't think it works that way. I think most paedophiles that are into children, as in people that aren't sexually developed are pretty locked into that. I don't think they have normal sexual appetites and also just happen to also find eight year olds hot. Tends to be a pretty all-or-nothing thing. There may be exceptions, but paedophiles are pretty hard wired into their sexuality as most people are.
JumpJeff84
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selig said:
Whoah, calm down! He's asking questions here. You say you hate ignorance. The best way to fight ignorance is to teach, not verbally assault people.
plagiarize
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wow.selig said:
my post was hypothetical... it was inspired by a news story i read about Rupert Grint driving around in an ice cream van with children chasing after him.
imagine how many children he could harm if he was inclined to do so. is that a better wording for you?
that was it. obviously the issue of how we should handle real actual paedophiles is a very touchy one. i think people do indeed go too far in demonizing real paedophiles that don't act on their urges sure... but all the same i totally understand why parents wouldn't want someone who really wanted to have sex with children put into a situation where they easily could, even if they'd never go through with it.
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because it's socially unacceptable and they hide behind an image that's the social norm just as homosexual men used to have to?Darklord said:
Vinci said:
I don´t know what you´re trying to imply, but I simply hate it when the many are picking on the few. We helped racism to end, we helped hate against homosexuality to end, and now we have to end the hate against pedophiles. It´s yet another minority that´s being hated on by the masses of ignorant people. If there was another minority that needed defending, you can be sure that I´d be there. I´m not pro-pedo, I´m anti-ignorance.
Btw. the argument "parents are afraid of pedophiles being near there children" is kind of funny, when it´s much more likely that a heterosexual is going to kill their child, than a pedophile f******g it.
JumpJeff84
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Darklord said:
I think you've answered your previous question.
My guess is probably the classic cover up. I think these guys hope that doing the whole family thing will keep them out of trouble. They may have some attraction to women, but I'm sure its negligable at best.
Look at it this way. Guys in prison often turn to homosexuality. They went in straight (most of 'em we can assume) but placed in a situation where they have no options they find ways to get off.
I doubt paedophiles in 'beard' relationships are happy. They must have to do all sorts of creative 'fantasizing' to make it work at all. Most importantly, if paedophilia was only a fetish, do you really think people would risk it AT ALL? Even having child porn on your computer can ruin your life. People know how demonized paedophiles are...if they could repress their feelings most of them damn sure would.
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JumpJeff84
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selig said:
What word is that? 'Flaying'?
fu3lfr3nzy
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Rob Lowe: accidental pedo
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BertramCooper
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Are we witnessing the founding of the NeoGAF Pedophile Defense Force?
What a momentous occasion.
What a momentous occasion.
plagiarize
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it's not an argument. parents ARE afraid of paedophiles being near their children. you may think it's cruel and mean of them to feel that way, but it's a fact they do.selig said:
look, you want to help paedophiles right? would you happily send them off to teach pre-school and work in pet shops and drive school buses?
maybe you wouldn't have any problem doing that, but surely helping them avoid temptation is a really big part of how we help them.
paedophiles are different to homosexuals in a very important way. homosexuals can indulge their desires in legal ways that don't harm anybody else... paedophiles can't.
selig said:
This is what I was implying: For someone who is 'anti-ignorance,' you are horrid at alleviating it and/or taking the steps necessary to do so. Rather you feed it, nurture it, by treating people who may be ignorant on a subject like piss. Good thing for your cause Whoompthereitis is intelligent enough to recognize how to address someone's ignorance on an issue.
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I just wouldn´t make it a criteria, full stop. Do they ask about your sexuality in the US?
Yeah, which is why we should feel that much more sorry for pedophiles, instead of demonizing them on top of all their misery. Can you imagine some law forbidding you to have sex with a woman? That´s the reality for a pedophile. Only, that the whole world hates him, on top of it.
JumpJeff84
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BertramCooper said:
I hope you're not taking the lazy way out and labelling me as a 'defender of pedos'.
I don't think paedophiles should run free, or be allowed to look at child porn or anything. All I'm saying is that they should be allowed to seek treatment when they haven't offended. The way things are now, they really can't. For the good of everyone, they should be allowed to pursue options like chemical castration, institutionalisation and the like more easily.
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Don't worry, I wasn't talking about you.Whoompthereitis said:
Always-honest
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can't think of any.
i hope they're all paedophiles
i hope they're all paedophiles
BertramCooper
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So you're basically arguing that pedophilia is a sexual orientation.selig said:
If that's the case, are zoophilia and necrophilia sexual orientations, too? How about grandmaphilia?
JumpJeff84
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selig said:
We obviously agree on some points, but this here is where we differ. If someone knows they were born a paedophile, it's on them to do everything in their power to keep themselves out of any position where they may be tempted to offend. it sucks that they can't teach/drive a bus even though they've never offended, but in this case the risks are too high. Get help, seek therapy, whatever- just keep the fuck away from kids as much as humanly possible. Even the strongest among us are weak when it comes to giving in to our sexuality. It's unfortunate, but I think a truly 'responsible' paedophile has to accept that they were dealt the absolute shittiest of hands and do whatever they can to make sure they never victimize anyone even if it means they themselves endure a lot of suffering.
Whoompthereitis said:
I've heard pedophiles call it a child fetish before and they are in an adult relationship(not in real life just so you know, I'm not friends with pedo's or anything. Just in articles, ect). So I think it's both, like Bi-sexuals.
selig said:
You're anti-ignorant yet you look at this subject as black and white. You can't get anymore ignorant than that.
Pedophiles are not like Blacks or Gays. There ARE pedophiles out there that stalk children. Get off on disgusting pictures and videos of abuse and rape and even do it them self, sometimes with family members. And many pedophiles ARE like that. While I agree with you that being a pedophile doesn't automatically make you a bad, evil person there is still a chance of them slipping up which makes them a danger.
There is so much hate against pedophilia is because it's an evil act. And can in fact be some of the most evil actions a person can do. Being Black can't hurt anyone. Being Gay can't hurt anyone. Being a Pedo can and has hurt people so if a person is one then, sorry, but don't expect a warm welcome now or ever. If you actually think it's ok for a child to be around a known "good" pedophile then you are a god damn idiot. I like how you just throw some random "fact" out about herto's being for dangerous around kids. Anti-ignorance, huh? Maybe you need to work on yourself before trying to rid the world of it.
Wrong. The word includes behaviors.selig said:
"The American Psychiatric Association classifies pedophilia as a mental illness marked by "recurrent, intense sexually arousing fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors involving sexual activity with a prepubescent child or children.""
Depression is a metal illness too with multiple symptoms. Not everyone has all associated with it.
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I don't care if they all are. Its not my problem.
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selig said:
you can break it down and all that - but no way in hell would i send my kid to a class that was being taught by a known pedophile. i can't think of a single parent that would. and i think that any parent that would is out of their mind.
i completely understand your point. you can say i'm being judgmental or ignorant. but i don't want my kids around pedophiles whether they're acting on it or not.
note: i don't' actually have kids, i'm saying if/when
Tieno said:
To Catch a Predator was a great show but I always had a funny feeling that Hanson was a secret pedo or at least had some deep seated lust for children and he made the show to punish internet predators to make himself feel better about his shameful urges.
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Wickerbasket
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It may not be the pedophile's fault that he's attracted to kids, but the very fact that he is attracted to them is a danger to the kids. Whether they take action on their urges isn't really the issue, the issue is that they feel this way towards the kids in the first place. They feel sexual urges towards those who can't give consent.
I don't think people should demonise them for the way they are, but I believe they should be around temptation as little as possible. I'd suggest they join the Catholic church as it would give them an outlet for their sexual frustration while being able to service the greater community.
I don't think people should demonise them for the way they are, but I believe they should be around temptation as little as possible. I'd suggest they join the Catholic church as it would give them an outlet for their sexual frustration while being able to service the greater community.
JumpJeff84
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Snuggler said:
This is strangely plausible to me.....
Wickerbasket said:
Well, but see, they are people that dont have a chance with women, be it because they´re shy, fat, ugly, whatever. You could say that all these people are a danger to the women around them. But do they act on their urges? You can bet that the vast majority does not.
Also, the topic about being able to give consent is a whole different one. Of course, if we´re talking about 10 and below, I agree with you.
Well, that´s why I think it´s good to have those crazy Japanese hentai-games. There should be no limit to our fantasy, which is why such games shouldnt be banned. And if they can help someone, all the better.
JumpJeff84
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donkey show said:
My God, NAMBLA is fucked. Seriously, there's a documentary on youtube call "Chickenhawk" about NAMBLA. Way, way disturbing. These guys are so deluded, creepy creepy creepy!
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