A jungle primary is still a primary.
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A jungle primary is still a primary.
I think Kander's performance indicates that the lean can be overcome. Particularly in wave-y turnout conditions. Will be an uphill battle, but I think her conditions are far more favorable than, say, Donnelly's. Plus, she's a strong incumbent.
adamsappel
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Blue Lives Matter, until they come for my guns, and then I am going to kill them.
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Beer Monkey
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His vocabulary has shrunk immensely. With a healthy brain this doesn't happen between 50 and 70 years old.
Journeywalker
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I've been intentionally responding to tweets on @trumps_feed to wade into the waters. I see it a bit like putting on my rhetoric helmet and shield to slowly, calmly push back against ignorance. If anything, I hope to contradict the Fox News narrative that all progressives are shrill, divisive, outrage-prone, Nazi-labeling, history-erasing, MSM-brainwashed, G-dless cancers on society.
I've had some interesting conversations with people that reject fact-checkers, reject the scientific method, reject the coequal status of the judicial branch, reject the need for SCOTUS to interpret the constitution, think the concept that everyone has bias is a "progressive myth," and believe that class and race divisions didn't exist before Obama. And I don't think they hated me at the end.
VendettaRed07
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Any interesting quotes/ Q & As you can remember?
HanShotFirst
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I don't doubt that but back then he spoke about politics with the same vagueness that he does now. ie: Says something is wrong then makes vague comment about how horrible things are becoming and offers no specific solution.
Beer Monkey
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He was never very smart, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have degenerative brain issues. It happens to smart people and dumb people.
Got the Shakes
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This is so gross.
whyamihere
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I mean, you can't actually primary someone by removing them from the party line in the way that people would understand the verb tbh, which is an easier task than beating someone in a Dem v Dem GE race in the most expensive state in the country.
(None of these things are easy, mind you)
I think the major difference in that old interview posted and Trump now is coherence. He's saying the same basic, vague gobbledygook but it's in an easy to understand and follow manner.
First question was just asked about the inequality and segregation in public education.
I think this is the live stream link. https://m.facebook.com/amypoehlersmartgirls/
whyamihere
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duh, also she's a blue dog
Poodlestrike
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*Dabs yes furiously*
Yeah, there's no way in hell we want someone like Sanchez as a Senator from CA.
Autodidact
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I mean, Ted Lieu could just fuckin' go for it if he wants to move to the Senate.
Do Pelosi and Feinstein have any sort of relationship? I know Pelosi and Boxer go way back to Boxer's days in the House.
Do Pelosi and Feinstein have any sort of relationship? I know Pelosi and Boxer go way back to Boxer's days in the House.
aspiegamer
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The Trump voters I get, but I'm surprised at the Clinton voters. Would have assumed that more than 10% of D voters would consider the media a bigger threat because of what it enables. Were it not for extreme right-wing media these past few years (to say nothing of whataboutism from every media outlet on earth during the campaign) we wouldn't be talking about white supremacists at all in the first place!
Fenderputty
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Yeah ... this is how I feel. The people answering that question are doing so through the perspective that their media gives them. Which is ironic for the righties who are so concerned.
From a theoretical, the media could be just as destructive. It goes beyond just right wing media too. Major news publications covered the Clinton email scandal at much higher volumes than the other scandals going on. This might be because Trump had too many scandals to focus on, but the result of so much attention spent on the email scandal was definitely felt.
State ran media is the solution to profit driven media, but even then that poses it's own set of issues. Anyone here want Trump in charge while the feds are starting up a news programs for the nation?
Donnelly's two potential opponents are losers who will tear into each other before their primary is over.
McCaskill at least has a credible opponent, despite his stupid ladder ad.
Fenderputty
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Oooo ... oppo droppo
SatelliteOfLove
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edit: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH Get 'em all in there!
It's just so wierd given his escalating chaos, the GOP giving him more and more criticism, being abandoned by advisors and allies, being rebeled against by some in his own cabinet, and how he's being walled off from the levers of power in the WH.
"Good" is a very bad choice of words from a Dem now. It's too close to "he became president today" and too far from "he managed to not praise Nazis or blab secrets to the Russians today".
Impeach? Lovely idea, but that's not on the table I agree...until the Creamsicle Caudillo fucks up Ryan's precious heavily-downsized tax cut and then blames Ryan for the problem maybe. At this point, it's mostly about cutting him off and ramping up the investigations and protecting Mueller & co.
Well, I was mostly talking about who sets the talking points, not future Minority Leader/Speaker/Senator role.
It's just so wierd given his escalating chaos, the GOP giving him more and more criticism, being abandoned by advisors and allies, being rebeled against by some in his own cabinet, and how he's being walled off from the levers of power in the WH.
"Good" is a very bad choice of words from a Dem now. It's too close to "he became president today" and too far from "he managed to not praise Nazis or blab secrets to the Russians today".
Impeach? Lovely idea, but that's not on the table I agree...until the Creamsicle Caudillo fucks up Ryan's precious heavily-downsized tax cut and then blames Ryan for the problem maybe. At this point, it's mostly about cutting him off and ramping up the investigations and protecting Mueller & co.
Well, I was mostly talking about who sets the talking points, not future Minority Leader/Speaker/Senator role.
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if we beat Heller and Flake but lose Donnelly and McCaskell is that a good night?
Journeywalker
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This is so gross.
I came up with an interesting Fox Newsism:
According to Fox News, 75% of Trump voters said Fox News is the leader of a group that is more dangerous than White Supremacists.
2018 is a really bad map for Dems so staying put at 48 is in the good range of outcomes
I desperately want Feinstein to retire at this point, but would still vote for her over Sanchez.
I'm not moaning the loss of traditional primaries in CA though. If anything I feel it ought to give us more leeway to float lefty-er candidates because we don't have to worry about electability vs Republicans.
We should be celebrating cutting the GOP out of the running! They're all scum.
Except my mayor, he's okay.
I'm not moaning the loss of traditional primaries in CA though. If anything I feel it ought to give us more leeway to float lefty-er candidates because we don't have to worry about electability vs Republicans.
We should be celebrating cutting the GOP out of the running! They're all scum.
Except my mayor, he's okay.
Random Human
They were trying to grab your prize. They work for the mercenary. The masked man.
Juicy.
This is big because it confirms Trump can't pardon himself out of this.
BlastProcessing
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She just broke the news at the town hall. We erupted in applause.
HanShotFirst
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Yup, this is pretty much what I'm trying to articulate with his old interviews. Its the same shit he says now but a little more coherent.
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I do think working class GOP voters get that Reaganomics is a crock of shit, even while believing that they pay too much. They can do the basic math that says that the GOP's tax cuts either wouldn't help them or would actually hurt them with some "widen the base" proposals.
Seriously made my day. Line wasn't too long and I figured fuck it when am I gonna get another chance to meet her?.
I doubt that holds water given that Arpaio is out of power. "Justice" is not a constitutional right, insofar as people who have been wronged have a right to see their violator brought to justice.
NihonTiger90
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I mean, Schneiderman going after Team Trump is probably not surprising given his history of ... going after Team Trump.
I've always been unsure if the feds could work this closely with a state investigatory team, but I guess it would make sense if they uncovered evidence of crimes that might not violate federal statutes but did at the state level, to offer that information up to prosecutors and vice versa. And the NY AG has massive powers under the enterprise corruption statutes.
It'll be interesting to see if he goes full Spitzer on Trump or not. If he does it's going to be must watch television.
VendettaRed07
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I remember reading she walked back her statement when she said "healthcare is a right" not too long ago. She can't be wishy washy here if she wants to win over a lot of the people she'll be after. Medicare for all is the way to go.
Futurevoid
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The judiciary continues its work. A federal judge has issues a preliminary injunction enjoining nearly all relevant parts of Texas' anti-sanctuary city law SB4.....
It holds that nearly all blocked provisions are likely unconstitutional.
It holds that nearly all blocked provisions are likely unconstitutional.
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Futurevoid
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It reminds me of that "Always Sunny in Philadelphia" episode where Frank is watching the looting tape. Looting vs Survival.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yE_Om13VpQw
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