captmorgan
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Such controversy over such a niggling situation.
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Verdict on White People Reciting Rap Lyrics?
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shanshan310
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I get too embarrassed and stop singing when a rap song comes up to a particularly vulgar word.
Should I start censoring myself when I sing the song Asshole?
Should I start censoring myself when I sing the song Asshole?
Hot Coldman
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nice coat
BadAss2961
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Yeah right, lol. Even if true, i'm sure you pick your surroundings very carefully.
Karaoke I get, but for the most part I was never one to recite lyrics. No one wants to hear that shit. I just like to listen and nod my head.
Someones about to get cheer checked
If the song has nigga in it then I'm gonna say nigga. My few black friends understand/do not care.
Also, bitch, cunt, whatever unsavory language the song demands. If I do find myself uncomfortable with a song because of the racial/sexual makeup of my surroundings, I wouldn't sing it in the first place lol, but I haven't experienced any need so far to censor myself.
Also, bitch, cunt, whatever unsavory language the song demands. If I do find myself uncomfortable with a song because of the racial/sexual makeup of my surroundings, I wouldn't sing it in the first place lol, but I haven't experienced any need so far to censor myself.
Angelus Errare
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lmao. this.
Hot Coldman
Banned
I live in this bizarre paradox where I'm constantly surrounded by white-ass white guys, so technically I could say "nigger" freely with zero repurcussions, but I never actually have the opportunity to do so because no-one I know listens to rap music or generally any music that throws out that word freely
oh and because white guilt binds me from uttering it
oh and because white guilt binds me from uttering it
OttomanScribe
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All the white people I know that rap along, they really lean into the word.
I saw Sean P do 'BBQ Sauce' and the white people in the crowd STILL recited the chorus like it was all good.
Dumb.
I saw Sean P do 'BBQ Sauce' and the white people in the crowd STILL recited the chorus like it was all good.
Dumb.
I drink more liquor
to fuck you up quicker
than you want to fuck me up
for sayin the word....
GODLIKE
He's not my favorite but I do like him, also he never drops the N word in his songs which is nice. At least I think ...
Another favorite white rapper is Wax, he can get kinda goofy but I can really relate to him.
I know everyone thinks like Yellow Wulf when they think of white rappers in the past year or so it seems , but Wax rocks you guys should check out his freestyle shit on youtube.
Anyway back to topic at hand.
Wendel Clark
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do you guys also say the "f" word?
If I or a friend or anyone was legit quoting a song, I don't think I could bring myself to get all up in arms around saying "nigga" or any other word.
That said, I would not pick Niggas in Paris as a karaoke song (if that even exists) if my parents or family were around.
Basically, this!
That said, I would not pick Niggas in Paris as a karaoke song (if that even exists) if my parents or family were around.
Basically, this!
XANDER CAGE
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Like most things in life, context is incredibly important and if you're ever in a situation where you think "maybe I shouldn't" then you probably shouldn't.
There are friends I'm comfortable singing along to rap lyrics with, but I wouldn't treat that as a pass to just do it whenever.
There are other situations though where it just has to be said, and avoiding it just gets silly. I was in a literature class once, and we were discussing the ZZ Packer story "Brownies" which, for those who don't know, is a fantastic short story about a group of girl scouts who believe that another scout called one of them "a nigger." The verbal gymnastics people were pulling off to read quotes from the text without saying it were pretty goofy, especially considering the professor had previously expressed amusement at everyone's embarrassment.
Funnily enough, this same class had the exact same issue with a short story where a key piece of dialogue involves a father calling his son "faggoty." It was like everyone in the class thought that discussing the scene was a tacit endorsement of the insult, or something.
There are friends I'm comfortable singing along to rap lyrics with, but I wouldn't treat that as a pass to just do it whenever.
There are other situations though where it just has to be said, and avoiding it just gets silly. I was in a literature class once, and we were discussing the ZZ Packer story "Brownies" which, for those who don't know, is a fantastic short story about a group of girl scouts who believe that another scout called one of them "a nigger." The verbal gymnastics people were pulling off to read quotes from the text without saying it were pretty goofy, especially considering the professor had previously expressed amusement at everyone's embarrassment.
Funnily enough, this same class had the exact same issue with a short story where a key piece of dialogue involves a father calling his son "faggoty." It was like everyone in the class thought that discussing the scene was a tacit endorsement of the insult, or something.
I'd be interested in what your hypothetical white karaoke person does with this song. (nsfw, probably)
OMG I DIED. She needs to cover the song I linked!
Ninja Scooter
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I personally don't have a problem with it, but if you are in a social, public environment (like a karaoke bar) you have to be cognizant of the fact that their might be people in the crowd who might (ignorantly) take offense to it and might start some trouble. Are you willing to deal with that?
I don't really care for my own people using the word; I sure as hell don't want to hear anyone else using it. And I don't see any difference with it ending with an a or er. My $.02. I've passed out plenty Ghetto Passes but they never include that option.
This whole thing just seems like a few people are too fucking excited to use the word. I think that's why it bugs me.
This whole thing just seems like a few people are too fucking excited to use the word. I think that's why it bugs me.
Alligatorjandro
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I dont listen to music like that in public.
Mammoth Jones
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Considering I recite rock lyrics like a mofo, I can't hate on my white brothers and sisters enjoying some hip hop.
OttomanScribe
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This.
I mean what is more important, the veneer of authenticity that you think you attain with rapping the whole line, or the possibility that you are screaming a racial slur in public that will rightfully piss some people off.
I'm gonna uppercut wistfully into your dick lips,
Give daddy a kiss on the limp chest hip wrist,
Drunk off that drank off that Arbor mist,
Sizemore Skunk off that skank doin split grips,
I'm Sizemore, cousin,
Double dutch for fun dirty dozen,
Slammin me slammin you, i'm Sizemore again,
This is pogs, I'm hurt like the shit was Vietnam,
Fuck it, I'm Sizemore, bitch
Give daddy a kiss on the limp chest hip wrist,
Drunk off that drank off that Arbor mist,
Sizemore Skunk off that skank doin split grips,
I'm Sizemore, cousin,
Double dutch for fun dirty dozen,
Slammin me slammin you, i'm Sizemore again,
This is pogs, I'm hurt like the shit was Vietnam,
Fuck it, I'm Sizemore, bitch
Ninja Scooter
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It's because people have made it this "forbidden fruit" when in reality, in the context it is being used in rap songs, it is pretty damn meaningless and should be inoffensive.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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It's funny that most gangster rap songs have incredibly offensive lyrics about hitting women and killing cops but if you're singing karaoke you don't even have to question if that's ok to sing but singing the n word not even in a derogatory way is a big issue.
This. Refer to my earlier post for the logical extreme.
XANDER CAGE
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This is a good point also. It's pretty obvious who's getting a kick out of saying it when it happens, though. I don't think everyone singing along to a Wu Tang song has a secret desire to yell racial slurs they know they shouldn't.
Synless
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If it is part of the song, what is the big deal?
XANDER CAGE
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I thought that was in Shaun of the Dead? And that scene is great, it's there to emphasize what a total knob his character is.
CountAntonius
Member
Exactly. Also I don't think many people give it much thought and yell it out with glee. They just hear it so that often in movies and music that they its more weird to leave out out cause you might offend someone.
XANDER CAGE
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If more people of all races, colors, and creeds recited Lil B lyrics the world would be a better place.
disappeared
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A buddy and I came up with "fella" as another appropriate substitution. We recite "Fellas in Paris" from time to time.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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Verdict?
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Congrats OP on having the best hair on gaf.
XANDER CAGE
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Sharp inhales with pursed lips and raised eyebrows.
Conciliator
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If I'm reciting rap lyrics or rapping along with lyrics when I'm by myself(which sounds specific but is definitely a daily occasion), I'll say nigga. I don't really have other opportunities because I don't particularly recite rap lyrics in front of other people really.
Of course it was. Stupid Bob.
José Mourinho
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I mean, white fans are paying for albums too, and black artists are taking it. So I don't see why they can't sing the 100% faithful lyrics.
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That said, I do see why they can't sing the 100% faithful lyrics
The Return of
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Yeah....rappers use the word when referring to white people and other races so it's a bit odd people try to act like they don't. I mean if you are truly against and hate the word you should be no matter who uses it.
OttomanScribe
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There is a historical context to the use of the word that you are missing. You can't de contextualise racial slurs.
The use of racial slurs amongst groups who were subject to them has, according to some people arisen as a way to lessen their power. Whether it works or not is a matter of debate in those communities. I don't have an opinion on it.
What matters is how you react to a racial slur. Someone else saying it doesn't make it okay.
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