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Trump to announce 'path forward' for US in Afghanistan

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BoboBrazil

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The people in the picture around the table from yesterday look fucked up, so whatever they decided is bad, very bad. I'm guessing blackwater privatization so DeVos's family can get richer and donate more to Trump.
 
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BoboBrazil

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By the way here is the pic I'm talking about

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gdt

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Didn't Obama and the Joint Chiefs draw up a plan for Afghanistan that Trump killed week 1 just because it was Obamas plan?
 
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Saint Gregory

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Can anyone explain what it is that we're actually trying to "win" in Afghanistan? The installation of another faux-democratic gov't that resents us like the one in Iraq?
 
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NyMartin90

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Saint Gregory said:
Can anyone explain what it is that we're actually trying to "win" in Afghanistan? The installation of another faux-democratic gov't that resents us like the one in Iraq?
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We are trying to make sure that when we leave Afghanistan just won't topple over and allow groups like the Taliban, the Haqqani Network, or ISIS to easily take control and create new lawless/ rogue states that can be used as terrorist havens. When we left South Vietnam it was easily toppled. When we left Iraq it was under risk and was almost toppled over by ISIS.

This is a map of Iraq in 2014. Almost half of it was under control of the Islamic State and Baghdad was well within reach.
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Ponn

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BoboBrazil said:
By the way here is the pic I'm talking about

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"One of these isn't like the others, one of these doesn't belong!"

You have to give this admin one thing, its really good at its photo ops. I'm surprised we haven't a photo op of Trump on the toilet making "biggest, most tremendous shits"
 
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JonnyDBrit

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Briefly flicked onto the news and realise Trump's announcement on this, whatever the hell it is, is today.

Bets on Clinton somehow coming up in the speech?
 
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NullPointer

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So is this yet another 'surge' in Afghanistan?

And what will this one accomplish that the previous one failed to?

NY Times Troop ‘Surge' in Afghanistan Ends With Mixed Results (September 2012)

NY Times said:
KABUL, Afghanistan — The American military says it has now fully withdrawn the last of the 33,000 ”surge troops" sent to pacify Afghanistan two years ago, but they are leaving behind an uncertain landscape of rising violence and political instability that threatens to undo considerable gains in security, particularly in the former Taliban strongholds in the south and southwest.

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Friday's milestone, which still leaves 68,000 American troops in Afghanistan, was announced on the other side of the planet by the American secretary of defense, Leon E. Panetta, during a trip to New Zealand, while both American and Afghan officials here studiously ignored the moment, at least in public.

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”What did the surge give us?" a senior American official reflected on Friday, speaking anonymously as a matter of military policy. ”We're going to hit a point where, I won't say that's as good as it gets, but now it's up to them to hold what we gave them. Now, really, it's Karzai's turn."
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Kin5290

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Give me a troop surge over sending over fucking Blackwater to line Devos and Prince's pockets and wreck things more.
 
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NyMartin90

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Trump's Afghanistan Strategy may include more focus on Pakistan

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump is set to announce the newest chapter in the US war in Afghanistan with an expected troop increase, a pointed focus on counterterrorism that involves regional actors, and a drive to push Pakistan to do more about terrorist groups operating within its borders.

The new strategy, which Trump will unveil in a national address at 9 p.m. Monday, has taken months to hammer down as White House officials battled over which way to take American involvement in the South Asian country.

Alyssa Ayres, a senior fellow for India, Pakistan and South Asia at the Council on Foreign Relations, says that Trump's expected focus on "terrorist sanctuaries in Pakistan" will be crucial. "We can't have a successful state in Afghanistan unless things change in Pakistan," Ayres said.

State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said Secretary of State Rex Tillerson spoke Monday with Pakistani Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Indian Foreign Minister Sushma Swaraj and Afghan Foreign Minister Salahuddin Rabbani to outline how the US would like to work with each country to stabilize South Asia through "a new, integrated regional strategy."

Analysts say the new policy emphasis could re-focus political and military attention on what could be called the United States' longest-running military conflict, one that has often seemed like a morass. High-level attention drifted when the US launched the Iraq War. And under President Barack Obama, the US announced a surge alongside a plan to leave -- a step critics considered a huge mistake as it allowed the Taliban to simply wait Washington out.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/21/politics/trump-afghanistan-expected-strategy/index.html
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This will be interesting to see what happens in Pakistan as it is currently really with a transitional government thanks to the corruption of the past administration being thrown out due to scandals.
 
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snap

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NyMartin90 said:
This will be interesting to see what happens in Pakistan as it is currently really with a transitional government thanks to the corruption of the past administration being thrown out due to scandals.
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pfft

like pakistan will do any of that
 
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NullPointer

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#1 thing I'll be listening for is a clear delineation of victory conditions, or any well defined metrics that would lead to us pulling out.
 
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