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Cheeses_Christ
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(11-14-2017, 05:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

Nobody has moved like beerus, cept UI goku now; it was clear foreshadowing to UI and Whis even mentions it afterwards explicitely during their training.
Goku himself even comments on it right after he can't touch beerus.
It's important to see that UI users don't just dodge, they move around without thinking about it; flowing around like water.

It's a bit strange that he would need UI against Super Saiyan 3 though. Even the fact that there is no aura of any kind or color changes that depict the UI usage.

When he fought against GOD Goku he didn't use it if he really has UI.
LordOfChaos
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(11-14-2017, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cheeses_Christ

It's a bit strange that he would need UI against Super Saiyan 3 though. Even the fact that there is no aura of any kind or color changes that depict the UI usage.

When he fought against GOD Goku he didn't use it if he really has UI.

"Need" may be a moot point if it comes much easier to Beerus, as it should. It's just part of how he fights, not a Saiyan transformation.

In the manga he used it against other GoDs and was untouchable for a few moments, and that was his still imperfect UI.
Futaleufu
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(11-14-2017, 08:47 PM)
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The worst part of this fight is that it feels like a glorified sparring session.
Reizo Ryuu
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(11-14-2017, 09:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cheeses_Christ

It's a bit strange that he would need UI against Super Saiyan 3 though. Even the fact that there is no aura of any kind or color changes that depict the UI usage.

When he fought against GOD Goku he didn't use it if he really has UI.

He doesn't "need" to use it, he just uses it naturally.
Also it's not a transformation, it doesn't have an aura.
The angels (at least whis) have perfect UI and they never have an aura.
Cheeses_Christ
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(11-14-2017, 10:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

He doesn't "need" to use it, he just uses it naturally.
Also it's not a transformation, it doesn't have an aura.
The angels (at least whis) have perfect UI and they never have an aura.

I was under the impression that it was a transformation. I was wrong then.
LordOfChaos
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(11-14-2017, 11:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cheeses_Christ

I was under the impression that it was a transformation. I was wrong then.

Saiyans transform, as does Freizas race and maybe some others. But most species do not. i.e Toppo is just in base form fighting an SSB. UI for Saiyans is a transformation. It probably isn't for Beerus or anyone else using it, it just becomes an extension of their base/only form.
NeonZ
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(11-15-2017, 12:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by LordOfChaos

Did they miss though that potara is a tens of times multiplier on TOP of combined power? Robots combining doesn't seem like it would do that, just add their powers. Unless all of them are smurfing so far.

Nah, that's exactly what it does in super robot anime and Super Sentai.

Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

He doesn't "need" to use it, he just uses it naturally.
Also it's not a transformation, it doesn't have an aura.
The angels (at least whis) have perfect UI and they never have an aura.

We also haven't ever seen them fighting seriously though. Note that the angels don't have gray eyes either, but rather purplish ones.

On the other hand, Beerus in the manga explicitly used his imperfect Ultra Instinct against the other GoDs, and there were no visual changes. Still, it's imperfect and he ended up grabbed by the robot GoD, so that might be why there was no visual changes.
Reizo Ryuu
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(11-15-2017, 12:23 AM)
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The grey eyes mean nothing.
UI is a technique, not a transformation.
Goku's transformation is not UI, even whis doesn't know what it is exactly, but it does enable him to use UI.
AvenueWinning
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(11-15-2017, 02:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

The grey eyes mean nothing.
UI is a technique, not a transformation.
Goku's transformation is not UI, even whis doesn't know what it is exactly, but it does enable him to use UI.

So there’s still a new transformation Goku hasn’t unveiled?
Reizo Ryuu
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(11-15-2017, 02:23 AM)
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Well the heat/eyes is definitely a transformation, one that allows him to tap into UI.
But who knows, perhaps it's an incomplete transformation for now.
ASAP
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(11-15-2017, 02:46 AM)
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Aren’t Whis’ eyes grey ? He’s got UI on lock.
NeonZ
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(11-15-2017, 03:13 AM)
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They're more purplish than gray, but I guess it could count (same goes to the other angels).

Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

The grey eyes mean nothing.
UI is a technique, not a transformation.
Goku's transformation is not UI, even whis doesn't know what it is exactly, but it does enable him to use UI.

Every official material is referencing the visual changes themselves as "Ultra Instinct" (Omen). What Whis wasn't sure about was the "heat", but it's not clear what's the heat he mentioned and if that was related to Goku's aura or any other visual aspect of Ultra Instinct that we've seen so far.
Shouta
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(11-15-2017, 03:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

The grey eyes mean nothing.
UI is a technique, not a transformation.
Goku's transformation is not UI, even whis doesn't know what it is exactly, but it does enable him to use UI.

It's not even a technique. It's a heightened state of martial arts awareness more than anything. Whis discusses what it is when he's training with Goku and Vegeta earlier in the series. UI is basically a fusion of reaction and thought into one process allowing the body to act on its own when fighting without the brain needing to dictate all the commands.

All of the Gods of Destruction are fighters at the point where they can potentially reach this territory or state but it's difficult to do so without the correct stimulus or situation. Jiren is likely someone that's reached that and his strength is because of it. He has to keep himself focused though which is probably why he meditates, lol.
Deleteeeeee
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(11-15-2017, 07:07 AM)
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the UI "form" was probably the minimum requirement for a new figurine.
BabyFaceKillah
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(11-15-2017, 12:33 PM)
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They had to make Goku look different when he uses it.. how else would they sell merchandise.
Slayer-33
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(11-15-2017, 12:38 PM)
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UI is like no dumb Goku
Reizo Ryuu
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(11-15-2017, 02:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by BabyFaceKillah

They had to make Goku look different when he uses it.. how else would they sell merchandise.

This is the true reason.
UntappedSource
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(11-15-2017, 03:14 PM)
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Halfway through the week!
Orin GA
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(11-15-2017, 03:16 PM)
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My youtube sidebar is filled with ultra instinct memes. I hate you all.
Shouta
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(11-15-2017, 06:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Orin GA

My youtube sidebar is filled with ultra instinct memes. I hate you all.

Just watching one UI video gets you that. It's annoying >=(
BabyFaceKillah
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(11-15-2017, 06:54 PM)
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I'll ask here cuz it's dead on the gaming side wassup with db FighterZ? Who are the next characters?
Karsha
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(11-16-2017, 01:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by BabyFaceKillah

I'll ask here cuz it's dead on the gaming side wassup with db FighterZ? Who are the next characters?

Kid Buu, Adult Gohan and Gotenks

Also I rewatched this week's episode and U3 says they don't need potara because they have a plan, Megazord incoming?
pants
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(11-17-2017, 08:13 AM)
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You know what we need? Comedic episodes showing what Yamcha and Bulma is upto on earth.
BBWCongaLine
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(11-17-2017, 08:47 AM)
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Originally Posted by pants

You know what we need? Comedic episodes showing what Yamcha and Bulma is upto on earth.

I do wonder how things will be handled for Bulma's voicework. Maybe some delays out of respect. Really unexpected and unfortunate news. Such talent that lasted beyond 30 years.
pants
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(11-17-2017, 08:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by BBWCongaLine

I do wonder how things will be handled for Bulma's voicework. Maybe some delays out of respect. Really unexpected and unfortunate news. Such talent that lasted beyond 30 years.

Just looked this up, RIP :(
ajim
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(11-17-2017, 08:57 AM)
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Is it true that the VA for Frieza passed away today?
Slayer-33
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(11-17-2017, 09:56 AM)
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What?!
WinterIsComing
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(11-17-2017, 11:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by pants

You know what we need? Comedic episodes showing what Yamcha and Bulma is upto on earth.

Or the kids fighting poachers. They both must have UI now.
A lot can happen in half an hour...
BBWCongaLine
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(11-17-2017, 12:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by ajim

Is it true that the VA for Frieza passed away today?

From what I understand, the English voice actor for freeza needs surgery for something. But the Japanese voice actress for Bulma has passed away.
oliander
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(11-17-2017, 04:25 PM)
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https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/931347410453798912

Has Bulma appeared since DBS ep.96? If not, then these are Hiromi Tsuru's final lines in Dragon Ball, at about the 11:50 mark.


kuYuri
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(11-17-2017, 06:35 PM)
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Goku receives some of Freeza’s ki and he’s already back to UI within a matter of minutes. That ki must be as good as eating a senzu.
Holy Order Sol
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(11-17-2017, 11:10 PM)

Originally Posted by kuYuri

Goku receives some of Freeza’s ki and he’s already back to UI within a matter of minutes. That ki must be as good as eating a senzu.

Freeza hooked him up with some of that good shit
NeonZ
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(11-17-2017, 11:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by BBWCongaLine

I do wonder how things will be handled for Bulma's voicework. Maybe some delays out of respect. Really unexpected and unfortunate news. Such talent that lasted beyond 30 years.

She isn't really appearing in this arc ever since the tournament started. I guess she'll just be recast by the time she turns up, although they might keep her mute/off screen for a while too even after the tournament ends.

She probably also won't have as much presence either going forward. Just look at how much North Kaio's role was reduced after he was recast near the end of Super's BoGs arc.
Sub Boss
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(11-17-2017, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by kuYuri

Goku receives some of Freeza’s ki and he’s already back to UI within a matter of minutes. That ki must be as good as eating a senzu.

evil Ki so we don't know what effect will have on Goku

Originally Posted by oliander

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/931347410453798912
Very unfortunate news.



ajim
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(Yesterday, 12:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by oliander

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/931347410453798912




That is just wow. <3
ajim
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(Yesterday, 02:59 AM)
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Episode was awesome.

Goku unleashed one of his best kamemehas in the entire dragon ball series. So good.
EverydayBeast
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(Yesterday, 03:39 AM)
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Bu-Bye U6!
Kimawolf
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(Yesterday, 03:41 AM)
Very good episode. Glad to see Goku have to actually fight with some strategy. Also glad the focus is leaving him next episode.
generaldane
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(Yesterday, 03:43 AM)
Glad that's over and done with, really wish those Magical girls were the beast in the tournament and not more Saiyans, but they themselves said it best "thank god for being Saiyans"
Reizo Ryuu
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The grindmehameha was pretty hype, though it's pretty lame kefla was just used as a jobber to the stars.
At least she actually manage to singe UI goku twice, that's more than jiren managed to do.
So thus far she's had the most powerful showing offence wise, though jiren still has that superman speed/durability.

Kinda sad she's out though, wouldn't have mind her taking out a couple other people first, like dyspo.
hikarutilmitt
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Originally Posted by Reizo Ryuu

The grindmehameha was pretty hype, though it's pretty lame kefla was just used as a jobber to the stars.
At least she actually manage to singe UI goku twice, that's more than jiren managed to do.
So thus far she's had the most powerful showing offence wise, though jiren still has that superman speed/durability.

Kinda sad she's out though, wouldn't have mind her taking out a couple other people first, like dyspo.

This. I kind of want them to push off Dyspo because he had his chance to do anything meaningful and right now he's just a filler to keep numbers on that team. Toppo is still fighting Vegeta so we can get that for a bit.

Honestly, I thought it would have been kind of cool if Goku had just flung one or both of them off the stage when he first blocked their attacks using UI.
Kysen
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(Yesterday, 04:00 AM)
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And I thought the awakening episode couldn't be topped.

ajim
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(Yesterday, 04:12 AM)
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Also sad Kefla is gone. Honestly, probably my one of my fav characters now. The amount of energy and attitude Kefla has is amazing. Steals the show when onscreen is.

Bad ass fight tho.
Omega Kirby
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(Yesterday, 04:16 AM)
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Amazing fight. This Arc keeps getting better and better.
Anybody who says DB Super is a lame series has no taste whatsoever.

Do you think we'll see Vegeta reach Ultra Instinct this arc?
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Vidiot
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(Yesterday, 04:43 AM)
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Glad Goku sent her ass(es) packing. Good fight, I just couldn't stand how bullshit powerful Kefla was.
Espada
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Originally Posted by Icyflamez96

One of the coolest fucking moves in Super, period. The steading charging of the beam as he dodged her attacks, that little trick right when she thought she had him, and...

That fucking sound. That glorious goddamn sound that played when he let that kamehameha go was awesome.
ajim
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Originally Posted by Omega Kirby

Amazing fight. This Arc keeps getting better and better.
Anybody who says DB Super is a lame series has no taste whatsoever.

Do you think we'll see Vegeta reach Ultra Instinct this arc?

Vegeta definitely gonna go ultra instinct now that he's put 2and2 together with what goku has achieved.

That will probably be the point in which goku gets to recover his stamina and goes again and masters it next.seems he has mastered the movement side of things, just not the attacking according to whis.
Vincent Alexander
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(Yesterday, 05:01 AM)
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Damn, that looks awesome. I can't wait for my son and I to finish Buu saga so we can start Super. Only 5 episodes away from season 9.
Sub Boss
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Cool episode but it was silly all the Goku and Kefla get stronger by watching stronger opponents get stronger

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