And_Gignac
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If it has the legs of XIII this game will be a failure for SQEnix. Hope they learn the correct lessons.
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Final Fantasy XV is second fastest selling FF game in the UK [Up: Week 2 down 75%]
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KingdomHeartsFan
Member
13 is probably over 7m with the PC release, if its legs are exactly like 13 its gonna be a success.
Mikey Jr.
Member
PowderedToast
Junior Member
the excitement around XIII was ridiculous. while only 6 years ago, it was a more innocent time back then and the fanbase seemed a lot less cynical. XII was the only major release that had experienced a truly mixed response, so there wasn't the pattern yet. it also had the sparkle of a new gen debut and some amazing trailers.
anecdotally, I know long-term fans who after XIII had sworn off the series, only to apprehensively buy this one. i think the excitement around this game was there but it was a little more reserved and cautious.
anecdotally, I know long-term fans who after XIII had sworn off the series, only to apprehensively buy this one. i think the excitement around this game was there but it was a little more reserved and cautious.
Square2015
Member
Geez it continues to look bad for FFXV, I expect the same in the U.S.
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Glad to see it's a success. It's an excellent game and I love it so far on the Pro.
Square2015
Member
After the first week of FFXIII's release SQEN releasing a PR that 1m+ sold week 1 in NA (a record for the series). And now for FF15...nothing.
FF13 was available for like 3 days its 1st week and still sold more.
FF13 was available for like 3 days its 1st week and still sold more.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Ah, got it, I thought you meant the opposite. Yeah, the decline in last gen Xbox-centric IP is definitely a big indicator.
Patrick Young
Member
The numbers appear to me like Final Fantasy is on the decline.
I'm gonna make a wild guess that development of FFXV was so expensive that it can't profit that much, if at all.
I'm gonna make a wild guess that development of FFXV was so expensive that it can't profit that much, if at all.
Bruno MB
Member
Actually, the sales are very stable on PlayStation, the problem is the collapse on Xbox One.
PlayStation
Final Fantasy XII - 90,000
Final Fantasy XIII ~ 92,000 - 97,000
Final Fantasy XV ~ 91,000 - 107,000
Xbox
Final Fantasy XIII ~ 78,000 - 83,000
Final Fantasy XV ~ 24,000 - 28,000
Where have those gamers gone? Some we know migrated to PS4. So that partially explains the uptick on PS4. However, where did the rest go? PC?
We got an update for Week 2:
Slightly better hold than Final Fantasy XIII (75% drop vs 80% drop), though the game was starting from a notably lower total.
Source: http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...hadow-of-the-colossus-but-fails-to-reach-no-1GamesIndustry.biz said:
Slightly better hold than Final Fantasy XIII (75% drop vs 80% drop), though the game was starting from a notably lower total.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Wooosh
And the spinsters will continue with "SEE ITS DOING EVEN BETTER!!!"
DarkLordMalik
Member
Number 6 on the overall EU digital charts, not just UK. Mind you, this counts for just 2 days of sale.
Good Guy Gone Bad
Member
Good week two hold, better than FFXIII.
The Last One
Member
Actually including digital it's probably doing almost on par with FF XIII in UK so I don't think it needs saving?
Digital won't add 50k copies to the first week, the amount he needs. Even if we assume he's doing on par with FFXIII (which he's not), having the same legs as FFXIII is not a good thing at all. Plus, XV has the holiday bonus that XIII didn't have, as it released in March.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Fixed.
Digital def could considering the industry standard is seen as 30% nowadays. FFXV is evidently showing better legs, though it could be the holiday effect right now.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Nd the doom and gloom will continue while ppl celebrate it apparently not doing as well so..meh
It's the fastest selling game because it's the first one that released worldwide. Otherwise, we'll probably know in a few weeks that, if we align the first weeks of FFXIII launches, it probably sold less.
Also, the post launch plan was planned since weeks, let's not fall in the PR trap here.
"better leg"
"5%"
That's the same around dude. Maybe even closer as there must be imprecisions in the calcul.
Primethius
Banned
Second week drop is a fairly typical AAA drop.
The trust test of legs is from the third week onwards.
The trust test of legs is from the third week onwards.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I see this train is still rolling...
The drop is nothing out of the ordinary.
The drop is nothing out of the ordinary.
NinjaCoachZ
Member
A drop is commonplace for the series but this is better than XIII's. If you want to make the issue that it didn't significantly expand the UK audience then that's a fair point. Saying "outright flop" feels a bit of a push ATM though.
Rising_Hei
Member
I think FF has always done better in the rest of europe 
The Last One
Member
FF XV: 115,000 - 135,000
Let's use 122K as the sales for FF XV + 25% digital then we have: ~155k which is just 25k less than the 180k from first week sales of FF XIII.
Second week:
FF XIII: 180k - 80% = ~36k
FF XV: 122k - 75% = ~31k
31k + 25% digital = ~40k
Totals:
FF XIII: ~216k
FF XV: ~195k
I really doubt it's a 25% ratio tho, I expect far less.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
It dropped 5% less hence better legs. This isn't hard dude.
1) Final Fantasy XIII sequels
2) Final Fantasy XIV 1.0 being a disaster
3) Square-Enix mismanaging of the brand.
4) WRPG rose in prominence in the home console market.
5) Final Fantasy XV being a confused product.
6) Etc...
It's not a single issue but a combination of a lot of things.
The Last One
Member
Platform split considering my predictions of the numbers:
FF XIII first and second week:
PS3 - 54% => 116.64k
X360 - 46% => 99.36k
FF XV first and second week:
PS4 - 80% => 156.8k
X1 - 20% => 39.2k
Dargor
Member
Yeah but that "Lightning must never be forgotten" thingy really takes the cake though...
I think FF has always done better in the rest of europe
Most Japanese games do
The Emperor
Member
The game will easily end up between 200K-300K like basically all the games in the series.
Stop this BS doomed narrative people.
Stop this BS doomed narrative people.
The Last One
Member
This is really irrelevant in this thread since FF XV is doing better than FF XII which didn't suffer from these facts you listed. What you said is more relevant to the media create sales where FF XV is way down.
The Emperor
Member
What I don't get is why below FFXIII is even bad. XV is clearly above XII at least anyway in sales.
XIII sold excellently for an FF game in the UK too so it is not a poor metric to be judging this game by...if anything it is a high bar.
XV sales can only be seen as bad if someone suddenly thinks FF is in its heyday which no-one should even be thinking...cus it really aint. We're not in late 90's to mid 00's anymore.
XIII sold excellently for an FF game in the UK too so it is not a poor metric to be judging this game by...if anything it is a high bar.
XV sales can only be seen as bad if someone suddenly thinks FF is in its heyday which no-one should even be thinking...cus it really aint. We're not in late 90's to mid 00's anymore.
Not in the UK.
Nice idea, though your use of percentages is not correct. 25% digital means that 75% is physical, and hence digital has the size of a third of physical. In that case:
Week 1 yields 163k
Week 2 yield 41k
FFXV then has 204k after two weeks.
(Your analysis would have been correct for a 20% digital world).
Also, FFXIII is 170k-180k, so it could be a closer race still.
paragonpro
Banned
Fuck, so what does this mean for ff going forward if things dont pick up?