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Eon Productions allegedly mooting a James Bond Cinematic Universe

If what they mean by this is that all of the Bonds (as in, the actors and their individual cinematic stories) now exist in a shared universe as different characters, and they can all team up into a super team called 'Woops, All Bond!', I'm in.

If they just want to make movies about Q or something then take a hint from the Universal Movie Monsters Dark Universe and get fuuuuuuuucked.
 

Pandy

Member
But....

Bond movies were already a Cinematic Universe before we had Cinematic Universes. I don't even...

If this means churning out a Bond film every year and getting away from whatever hubris wrecked the Daniel Craig films, then maybe that's okay.
If it means a whole Bond movie without Bond as the main character, fuck off.

(For context, my vote for the next actor to play 007 is Emily Blunt. I do want them to try new things with the series.)
 

Lynd7

Member
But....

Bond movies were already a Cinematic Universe before we had Cinematic Universes. I don't even...

If this means churning out a Bond film every year and getting away from whatever hubris wrecked the Daniel Craig films, then maybe that's okay.
If it means a whole Bond movie without Bond as the main character, fuck off.

(For context, my vote for the next actor to play 007 is Emily Blunt. I do want them to try new things with the series.)

I'm sorry, but a female James Bond makes zero sense and would be a different character. The code name thing is just a dumb fan theory that people like to throw around.

Having new characters that live in the same universe and interact with Bond sometimes would be a much better idea. New agents and delving back into the past etc of current side characters would be good.
 

gabbo

Member
Ehhhhhh.... it could potentially work? Especially if you roll with James Bond 007 being a codename not a character, and can reimagine various bonds throughout the ages and what happened to them.
Like The Rock is an unofficial follow up to "what happened to Sean Connery 007?"

I mean.... that's basically 50 Shades Of Grey.

This is about the only way to make it work while also going full bore into fan fiction/fan theory territory. It would be stupid, but it would at least logistically make sense, we've just never seen any of the Bond regeneration scenes or deaths that leads to the new agent being given the Bond codename and dossier. Not that this is something we need. I mean, if they can pull in Jack Wade is actually Mitchell, maybe. Just maybe
 
Reminder: Casino Royale is a reboot. It is not in the same loose continuity as the other Bonds

MI6 could, if they wanted, promote a new agent, and simply pass down Craig's name & number to that man.

In fact, the continuity OF the Craig films makes that a little more likely than it might otherwise be.
 

LordRaptor

Member
This is about the only way to make it work while also going full bore into fan fiction/fan theory territory. It would be stupid, but it would at least logistically make sense, we've just never seen any of the Bond regeneration scenes or deaths that leads to the new agent being given the Bond codename and dossier. Not that this is something we need. I mean, if they can pull in Jack Wade is actually Mitchell, maybe. Just maybe

I mean, the strength of the concept of the MCU is that you can play with tone and genre within a larger framework, so you can do high fantasy in Thor, popcorn Sci-Fi in GOTG, a heist caper in Ant Man and a political thriller in Winter Soldier and still have a thread tying them all together that this is the world they all live in.

Spycrafts inherently a cool playground to set stories, and the range of approaches to the genre in existing fiction could easily be applied to other agents and their own personal approaches to tradecraft; you have the 'traditional' JB style which is currently basically the M:I films, you have the more cerebral Le Carré style cat and mouse thrillers, the more 'street level' modern Bond / Bourne style, the Oceans 11 style light hearted heist caper style, erotic Mata Hari 'honey trap' style stories...

e: also, you don't have to kill off someone to introduce their successor; can easily just have someone get disavowed / burnt and leave them open to recurring roles without being the 'star' any more
 

gabbo

Member
I mean, the strength of the concept of the MCU is that you can play with tone and genre within a larger framework, so you can do high fantasy in Thor, popcorn Sci-Fi in GOTG, a heist caper in Ant Man and a political thriller in Winter Soldier and still have a thread tying them all together that this is the world they all live in.

Spycrafts inherently a cool playground to set stories, and the range of approaches to the genre in existing fiction could easily be applied to other agents and their own personal approaches to tradecraft; you have the 'traditional' JB style which is currently basically the M:I films, you have the more cerebral Le Carré style cat and mouse thrillers, the more 'street level' modern Bond / Bourne style, the Oceans 11 style light hearted heist caper style, erotic Mata Hari 'honey trap' style stories...

e: also, you don't have to kill off someone to introduce their successor; can easily just have someone get disavowed / burnt and leave them open to recurring roles without being the 'star' any more

I've always liked the idea of the Bond is a codename theory for the films as they are. And it would be an operational advantage if they did operate more than one Bong at a time, throw baddies off. That said, not killing one off and having a successor would leave the door open for Multi-Bond films, and that's just stupid. Doctor Who can do it because the writers knowingly play up the goofy factor. I can't see Bond writers working the ridiculousness of such a situation into the story. Imagine Daniel Craig's Bond seeing Pierce Brosnan's Bond wind surf in on a tidal wave or Roger Moore bob around in space. Or if Dalton and Craig had a brood-off. ... okay that last one I'd watch.

But then again that doesn't seems to be what they're looking for. It seems like it would be Bond is one film, M is another, Q is another, all with their own tones and stories. I mean if someone went all in and actually beefed the side characters up for one-overarching plot that concluded in one Avengers-like film, then maybe, but I can't see any other side character but Felix or maybe Q holding up to multiple movies
 
I'm sorry, but a female James Bond makes zero sense and would be a different character. The code name thing is just a dumb fan theory that people like to throw around.

Having new characters that live in the same universe and interact with Bond sometimes would be a much better idea. New agents and delving back into the past etc of current side characters would be good.
Yea, James Bond is his own character. He's a white guy from England. Trying to make him a female would mean completely changing the character of Bond.

If Craig doesn't return for anymore movies, I think the actor who played Howard Stark in Captain America could possibly be a good pick. That actor also played as Ian Fleming I believe, so that makes it even better lol.
 

Cheebo

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Madao

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this idea seems like it could go wrong so easily considering the people at the helm currently.

it'd be cool to see other 00s in action int heir own movies but at the same time it'd be very risky and they'd need something unique to make it a draw. expanding existing characters doesn't seem that interesting since only Bond seems to be the draw of the series. the rest of the characters don't look like they could carry a whole film.

if this happens, i'm bracing myself for the 80's Slasher Cinematic Universe.

they use Freddy Vs Jason as the starting point and then toss in Mike Myers, Leatherface, Chucky, Leprechaun, the Evil Dead, etc.

at least the first crossover between these made a product that was way more popular than the standalone franchises, unlike Batman V Superman...
 
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