Dark Octave
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Maybe they should start using ram sticks.RyL said:
The constant updates will keep wanna be console designers "modders" in check.
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Rumor: Xbox successor codename is "Ten". Expected release Holiday 2012.
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The constant updates will keep wanna be console designers "modders" in check.
Dark Octave
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If you had asked me this question before November 2005 my answer would have been "no".RyL said:
Early? the Xbox 360 will be seven years old at that point. A new box will hit in 2012 unless some crazy event happens, you can count on that. MS has done much to try and beat their competitors and they would suddenly give up and allow Sony to ship more PS3's and Nintendo to beat them in specs? All that while hiring a ton of new people who by all accounts haven't shown any of their work yet?nasos_333 said:
My guess would be an upgrade Fusion core of some sort. A design that eliminates bottlenecks among the memory, CPU, and GPU would be something of the future. No longer do we reference a motherboard design of northbridge and southbridge.
The latest Xbox 360, Slim, provides a glimpse what the R&D departments have done by merging the CPU and GPU in one chip.
The latest Xbox 360, Slim, provides a glimpse what the R&D departments have done by merging the CPU and GPU in one chip.
BruceLeeRoy
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Holiday 2012...uhhh impossible.
Shake Appeal
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Are you sure?Son.Ralph.Funk said:
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Shake Appeal said:
Yep, i doubt that. Nintendo wont be able to pull a wii performace again. In the aftermath a lot of people realized the cheap gimmick nature off the wii.
IGN a little late again.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1212411p1.html?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitter
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/121/1212411p1.html?utm_campaign=twposts&utm_source=twitter
GodfatherX
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id say unless the 360 sees major sales drop this year MS will plan for 2013, they have very few reasons to rush to market and are in the position to move at their convenience. I'm still 100% that it will be a 2013 launch
Rick Dangerous
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Hope it's true. fed up with all those sub HD - 30 fps games...
AlphaTwo00
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Next gen may fix sub HD, but 30 fps? Good luck. We'll always be stuck with 30 and sub 30 games. People will go nuts with everything else and forget framerate.Rick Dangerous said:
dragonelite
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AlphaTwo00 said:
I so hope not they should aim 60 fps next gen.
infinityBCRT
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My dream box would be...Lunchbox said:
8 GB shared memory
Bluray drive that supports 16 & 32 layer discs as well (but first gen games would ship on normal BDs)
2TB HDD
16GB SSD cache drive
If they put out a box with specs like that, they would probably be able to have a real 10 year generation.
AlphaTwo00 said:
At some point there will be diminishing returns and the fidelity of assets will outstrip 1080p resolution.
AlphaTwo00
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They'll aim, and some will get there, but eventually, devs will sacrifice it for whatever new fangled tech that everyone ends up pushing.dragonelite said:
infinityBCRT
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Thats why its a dream.bangai-o said:
Digital-Hero
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clashfan said:
Since when has Microsoft ever announced anything substantial at CES that will get gamers giddy? It would be at E3 before it would be at CES. Heck, it will be at GDC before it's at CES.
infinityBCRT
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Like I said, its a dream. But I think once we get to memory/storage hardware up to that quality (maybe the gen after the next one) along with a capable GPU that can do 1080p w/4xAA in it's sleep, developers are going to be able to find a lot of ways to trick the hardware and keep increasing fidelity. I imagine something like LA Noire's capture tech but much higher fidelity and for full body capture could be possible on that type of hardware.clashfan said:
Paul Thurrott (guy who started rumour that this thread is based on) thinks CES is when they'd announce it.Digital-Hero said:
-Pyromaniac-
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I could see a teaser reveal at CES and then the actual unveiling with more specific information at E3.
Maximilian E.
AKA MS-Evangelist
I have been saying it for a while now but I think that performance wise, next Xbox will be like an 6core phenom CPU and a dual gpu from 2010 with some refinements.
The ram and storage part is more difficult, the more the better obviously but ms will most like try to reach a 299/399 dollar approach again.
Minimum 2gb ram, hopefully 4gb
The ram and storage part is more difficult, the more the better obviously but ms will most like try to reach a 299/399 dollar approach again.
Minimum 2gb ram, hopefully 4gb
Spinning Plates
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dragonelite said:
I sure hope thats what DICE do.
infinityBCRT
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I think 50GB discs are going to be a huge limiting factor though down the road with the next generation. Some games this gen on limited memory hardware are already barely fitting on 3 DVDs on the 360.whitehawk said:
Admiral Bone to Pick
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If Nintendo and Microsoft are launching their consoles in late 2012, Sony can't afford to launch the PS4 a year later (especially when the PS3 is in last place). But if all 3 console makers launch at the same time, especially with the sales potential of the Vita and 3DS, it could be a VERY crowded holiday season. If this is true, I'm not sure what Sony can do here.
iamshadowlark
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Joke? 3x 8.5 < 50, hell its barely above the half mark. And don't forget hdd's. You're almost guaranteed to have at least 100GB.infinityBCRT said:
TOAO_Cyrus
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RyL said:
Um the only difference is they buy the chips directly from Samsung or whatever just like all the RAM module makers like G.Skill do so its actually much cheaper. Ram sticks have the cost of the packaging and the manufactures and retailers markup added in. There is nothing custom about the RAM consoles, its all off the shelf stuff.
Dreamcast2
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pr0cs said:
If Microsoft doesn't use BluRay they will use a proprietary high capacity format like Nintendo is doing with Wii U. No one is bringing HD-DVD back.
H_Prestige
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BluRay is cheaper than a long dead format like HD DVD. Even Nintendo is using it. That's when you know there isn't anything cheaper that provides the same capacity.pr0cs said:
Dreamcast2 said:
This proprietary format is Blu Ray. They're just not paying for the ability to label it as a Blu Ray disc nor allow playback of movies, much like they did with DVD on the GameCube and Wii.
infinityBCRT said:
It doesn't matter how big with make discs, developers will always bump up against their limits. Eventually we're going to have multi-disc Blu-Ray games.
iamshadowlark
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No it doesn't, not at all.pr0cs said:
infinityBCRT
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LA Noire only did facial capture, and pretty damn low quality at that (PC version shows how they barely are SD quality). Also, the audio was super compressed in LA Noire. Extrapolate that to full body capture @ higher fidelity and also better audio/uncompressed audio and thats easily more than 50GB if not 100GB.iamshadowlark said:
Yeah, LA Noire is some sort of special case but I can think of others. RAGE for example. That game's source files are in the terabytes if I'm not mistaken. While in general the Mega texture stuff looks okay, with more room they could have had more stages of textures & higher res textures close up.
Yeah. People thinking that MS won't use BDs or some form of it is so off the mark. Sony doesn't own Bluray.iamshadowlark said: