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Tatsunoko Vs Capcom coming to North America
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JoshuaJSlone
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Well, it seems unlikely that the company that tried bringing an X360 game to Wii would really write off the possibility of bringing an arcade/Wii franchise to other consoles.wsippel said:
JoshuaJSlone said:
It's not so much of thing of Capcom being noble, it's just what's feasibly "easier".
Again, the basic thing, which is why a TvC port to 360/PS3 is unfeasible now, is because it would be too much work to take the TvC engine, which was built on Wii architecture, and "upscale" it for the sake of making it "HD-ready".
If they were going to do all that, they might as well just make a brand new game, with all new assets. And that's not likely, because 8ing themselves are not likely to do such a thing themselves, and Capcom is not likely to invest in the money and resources necessary to make such a thing happen otherwise.
Besides, for all that people like to talk about how Capcom loves to port stuff all over the place (and it's true, yes), there's still a good number of examples that prove the contrary, too. TvC, and any sequels it inspires, could easily end up being such a thing.
MrMephistoX
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"if people are going to invest in this game, like we want them to, theyre going to go out and buy arcade sticks. It would be a disservice to fans to just put out this one game that they buy sticks for and then they have nothing more to play. Since this one is for the Wii, maybe the sequel will also be on the Wii....
But, we have to look at market conditions to make a final decision about that. As the way Im seeing it now, the sequels will be on the Wii as well."
It's not really quite as cut and dry as one would think and I for one am seeing shades of Dreamcast. Niitsuma implies that the decision will be sales driven as if CAPCOM hopes TVC will have the same impact on the Wii that SFIV did on HD consoles ie, huge sales, a mad rush to purchase arcade sticks, backorders at akihabara shop etc...
In short, as Roadblock would say, if it fails on Wii there's hope for HD.
But, we have to look at market conditions to make a final decision about that. As the way Im seeing it now, the sequels will be on the Wii as well."
It's not really quite as cut and dry as one would think and I for one am seeing shades of Dreamcast. Niitsuma implies that the decision will be sales driven as if CAPCOM hopes TVC will have the same impact on the Wii that SFIV did on HD consoles ie, huge sales, a mad rush to purchase arcade sticks, backorders at akihabara shop etc...
In short, as Roadblock would say, if it fails on Wii there's hope for HD.
Semi tvC related, anyone heard of this stick? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002EEND54/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It's probably the standard no-name junk, man the arcade stick situation for the Wii is awful
It's probably the standard no-name junk, man the arcade stick situation for the Wii is awful
ShockingAlberto
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I'm curious where you got this fromRyuKanSan said:
MrMephistoX
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ShockingAlberto said:
I know I'm one of them and I think most who've invested in modding fightsticks and such probably aren't looking forward to double dipping on a console with stock Hori sticks that are a pain to mod particularly when this is the only noteworthy online fighter unless you count Smash Bros. Unfortunately despite their recent success on HD consoles fighters are still extremely niche especially for an extremely mainstream console that has yet to see a hardcore success story. Even Mario Galaxy (probably the best platform this gen and last) sold poorly compared to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Play, and Wii Fit.
Don't get me wrong I will buy this for Wii in a hearbeat but will use the classic controller.
okay so you = the majority of people..???MrMephistoX said:
MrMephistoX said:
1. Mario Galaxy sold over 8 million units to date... thats more then what gears 1 or 2 sold... and WSR did not sell 8 million units..
2. you talk about fighters..(ofcourse completely ignoring the fact that smash bros brawl sold over 8 million units and is up there with galaxy as well ) and then go talk about platformers..???
farnham said:
It will at some point or another. Capcom even brought over an excellent port of Capcom vs. SNK 2 over to the GameCube, which I have to find by the way (no idea what I thought when I got rid of it).
You can guarantee that if this does remotely well, a port of Street Fighter IV will come to the Wii, I don't expect it to be that watered down either, definitely not in gameplay, it may even have some enhancements in that department.
Afterall, Street Fighter is highly regarded as being a mass audience game, as well as a classic franchise, bringing it to the Wii only seems to be a logical choice, especially if they've had made any profit off their Virtual Console downloads.
There's actually a very good line-up of fighting games on the Wii already. You have two Guilty Gear XX games, Samurai Showdown Anthology, King of Fighters, all the VC games, to excellent Dragon Ball Z Budokai games (which are better on the Wii because for the most part the motion controls make it more fun), and the Naruto games, which are received amazingly well. Oh, and not to mention the most popular of them all, being Smash Bros. and will TMNT following up on that formula. There really is no reason to ignore that consumer.
okay so why should it bother gamer that capcom releases a wii port of SFIV.. ?hatchx said:
plus didnt ono san said himself that he wants SFIV on every platform imaginable..?
i dont know i thought that port was kinda bad due to the long loading.. but thats probably because the GC version was the only one i played..VerTiGo said:
farnham said:
Well it would basically be a down-res'ed Street Fighter 4 for wii. If that was the case, what incentive to I have to buy it when I can buy the superior version for one of the other systems? We saw what happened to Dead Rising (and every other port).
WiiHD will probably get the port if anything.
If developers do it right, they do it like EA or Activision and focus specific teams on different versions of the same game.
farnham said:
It wouldn't be smart for Capcom not to do it. Just take into consideration Street Fighter II. Capcom wanted its exposure on all major platforms during the 16-bit era and they did just that, even by brining it to the Turbo Grafx.
I really doubt they'd stick to just one version of Street Fighter IV. That's just not the Capcom we know.
And honestly, the artstyle or visual presentation isn't so out of this world that it couldn't be reworked for the Wii with excellent results. Hell, if it went full throttle with cel-shading they could make it look better than the original release, because (sorry) the character design is flat-out horrible, but its still a visually pleasing game.
Triple Da G.O.D!
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explodet said:
Same thing I've been wondering. I really thought they would've dropped something at Comic-Con but no dice there. I guess all we can do is sit back and wait.
Boss Doggie
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Can't spoil too quickly.
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They could have at least announced one new character. Or even full confirm online. Then again I'm being selfish and want as much info as possible.
Rush2thestart
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hatchx said:
Dead Rising: CTYD is not a good example of a 3rd party HD game being ported to Wii. The entire problem the port had was that Dead Rising, in its 360 form, was simply not possible on Wii with a graphical downgrade. Since Capcom (or TOSE) couldn't get the Dead Rising gameplay to work on Wii, they shoehorned the Resident Evil 4 gameplay into the game, which completely destroyed the structure and the vsion of the original game. That's why it was a horrible port. It wasn't the same game.
However, there are plenty of HD games that I believe CAN work on Wii with graphical downgrades. Some of which include Dead Space, Bioshock, and most of all Street Fighter 4.
MrMephistoX
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farnham said:
I probably didn't frame the argument as well as I should have ( Mario sells well...to the hardcore not mainstream) but my point was this: I don't think Tatsunoku v.s Capcom is going to sell as well as the developers would like on Wii nor will it spark the same level of interest in peripheral buying and modding that SFIV continues to do on HD consoles. I'm going to buy it for sure but there is no way I'd purchase another stick for one game particularly when (IMHO although it should be obvious) I don't believe there will be more worthwhile reasons to use said peripheral. Even with a middling success Capcom would be foolish not to release a sequel or downloadable version of TvsC on HD consoles.
I'm a sucker for great games on mismatched consoles...see Blue Dragon and Madworld.
your argument still makes no sense at allMrMephistoX said:
SSBB sold 8 million units... thats more then SFIV and every other fighting game on the HD consoles combined easily.. to ignore that fact and to say that Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom will not sell is just ignorant.. fighting games on the Wii can sell when marketed properly.. there is an audience for it..
of course SF IV has a much higher namevalue then a VS series game no doubt.. thats why im saying that it is odd that capcom still did not announce a port of this game although ono said that he wants SFIV on every platform possible
and why is madworld or bluedragon a mismatch..?
bluedragon without the financial backup from microsoft was atrocious (not to mention that the 360 is the HD JRPG console of this gen)
madworld without motioncontrolls would be a very dull game..
and mario only sells to hardcore..?
isnt mario one of the highest selling franchises ever.. nsmb sold over 20 million units.. galaxy sold over 8 million units.. its unlikely that its selling to hardcore gamers only
ShockingAlberto
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Honestly, you guys should just say away from the sales argument
Just say "I want it on an HD system because where it is isn't up to my standards." That is far more intellectually honest.
Just say "I want it on an HD system because where it is isn't up to my standards." That is far more intellectually honest.
Boss Doggie
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So much posts of I WANT THIS GAEM ON MY SYSTEM even now? HAHAHA XD
Ookami-kun said:
Well, it's true. Honestly: I'd love TvC to hit 360/PS3, if only because it means I don't have to plug my Wii that's been in the closet for about two years now in to play one game on it. :lol
But I'll probably buy TvC anyway if it confirms online (and doesn't have the bullshit friend-code system *doubtful* and actually USES THE GODDAMN CONSOLE ID INSTEAD OF A SEPERATE CODE).
farnham said:
That's not entirely accurate. Super Smash Brothers Brawl has a lot more appeal than simply fighting. It's fan service in the truest sense. Even people who don't care about fighitng games at all crave the sight of Link against Mario. It's appeal stems from more then a competitive fighting engine... it stems from recognizable icons.
A more accurate analogy would be with Castlevania Judgment... or Dragon Ball or something (and I see the obvious problems with those comparisons as well).
jrricky said:
Does Monster Hunter use a non-WFC standard? Because Nintendo's online as a whole SUCKS, quite frankly and is the reason why I can't give a damn about most of the online offerings for it.
If TvC uses a non friend-code system, DO WANT. If not true, sort-of want. Simple as that.
MrMephistoX
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I have no problem admitting this.ShockingAlberto said:
They are fanservice of course but the Tatsunoku properties are practically unknown in the west for a mainstream audience which kind of drives the niche status up a notch. I just don't give that much credit to the Wii mainstream after Zack and Wiki, Mad World, Okami, and No More Heroes.
indigo-cyclops
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I've considered many times getting a Wii just to get a new Vs. cross-over - I remember reading Capcom was going to consider sequels on HD platforms post-release but it looks like the other consoles won't be getting this series. Bummer, I really want a new Vs. series, I don't care which as long as it's something FUN FUN FUN. I don't know why but for approx. a month I thought this one was coming to PS3/360 this summer...
Whenever I see any videos/gameplay for this I want to straight up buy a Wii; the game just looks awesome, and so much fun to play.
Whenever I see any videos/gameplay for this I want to straight up buy a Wii; the game just looks awesome, and so much fun to play.
ShockingAlberto
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Godhand did worse on PS2 than Madworld did on Wii.pakkit said:
PS2 is a terrible place for games.
sixteen-bit
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Get PS2 -> GCN converters and some Sanwa PS2 Hori Real Arcade Pros.-PXG- said:
Cube Joybox converter works well.
I use this argument in a other discussions and in one of those they said I'm crazy. They reasoned that with not so many hardcore games coiming to Wii, Wii owners should be all over games like MadWorld and the other titles whice are frequently mentioned. And why compare the Wii to PS2? It had actually games acording to these goons. Afterwards they said the following: "Well, you could compare the two, because both sell minigames and kidsgames".ShockingAlberto said:
Yeah, salesage is a weird place.
sixteen-bit
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are you confused?-PXG- said:
Cube Joybox Pro
It lets me use my PS2 sticks on Wii via the GCN ports. Works great on TvC, GGXX^C, and Virtual Console.
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