Yeah my bad i meant 20.
I even went back in retrospect and season 13 has some good shit.
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South Park: The Fractured but Whole - Review Thread
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Yeah my bad i meant 20.
I even went back in retrospect and season 13 has some good shit.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Im just hoping its not as easy as the first game. Once you got the Katana the game was easy as pie on any difficulty. Well, still fairly easy before then but once you got the Katana even the boss battles where over in a couple of rounds.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, the only fight I found difficult was the one where you fought Al Gore and the Secret Service guys. And even then that was only when playing as a Fighter, which seemed to be the most underpowered class.
All the reviews that i read seems to point out that the combat system and the gameplay in general is way better than stick of truth,i love Obsidian but they certainly weren't the main reason why the first game was so good.
I disagree,while lord of the rings episode is a masterpiece i think the superheroes trilogy is way better than the GOT one, Captain Hindsight,Mintberry Crunch,Cartman being best friend with cthulu,we learn why kenny can't die etc.. ,so many great momentes in those episodes.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Funny enough its the only class I havent played. I find all the classes pretty simular though. And Id say the Jew is the least useful. Most of that classs abilities rely on you being damaged, and the worse the better.
The game would have benefitted from class specific gear. Everyone could use the Katana and use all the armor etc. which again made the clssss pointless. As the Wizard I still used the Katana over magic because it was still much better.
Infinite_Daremo
Member
Didn't Matt and Trey have full creative writing control in the first one too? Outside of the engine im not sure what Obsidian magic would have been worked on it.
Dangansona
Member
Happy to see the good reviews, I had some apprehension for the writing due to both pre release materials and the superhero stuff in the shows past. Will have to get it this year.
Saoshyant
Member
Ars Technica review
No score as their usual policy, but I think this quote summarizes their overall opinion:
No score as their usual policy, but I think this quote summarizes their overall opinion:
If Ubisoft made this [game] as a satire of its own fetch-quest games, we couldn't find the part where it stops being terrible and gets funny.
Demoskinos
Member
Not sure if posted. Patrick Klepek seems less than impressed.
https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/919948333971574784
https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/919948333971574784
ScaryShark
Banned
Yep, completely pointless. Why would a game that features the humor and characters of a series so heavily be appealing in any way to people that don't like said humor and characters?
GeordieMark
Member
He made that evident when he mentioned "growing out" of South Park in the second paragraph, and yet he has a few digs that suggest he does still catch the odd episode. Either that, or he's trotting out arguments he read elsewhere. That was a typical snarky-nerd style review.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Reviews are about what I expected/hoped. Can't wait to play this.
angelic
Banned
I'm always baffled whenn I read things like "I don't wish to support popular product X in any way", because it makes 0.0000000001% of a difference. Also you're wrong about SP.
Triggered by the jokes? Interested to hear his thoughts but it seems like he's an outlier. Looks pretty much like if you enjoyed the first there's a good chance you'll enjoy this.
angelic
Banned
It's a review written to the Polygon audience, who enjoy being offended by absolutely anything and everything. Like Klepek too, who makes a living off being offended.
angelic
Banned
Because divisive review = more clicks, that's it. South Park isn't the product on display at Polygon, it's Polygon. Games are props to attach their dreadful rhetoric and generate income. They're basically a leech.
This and grow out of are two statement I despise. It just scrrams of being afraid to enjoy things. I'm 42, I still enjoy South Park. I still enjoy juvenile humor. I now also enjoy going to the symphony, opera, plays, reading for educational purposes that have nothing to do with my career or schooling. Too often peoplr are afraid to enjoy what they once did because of what others may think. Now, I understand differing tastes, but when I read or hear that someone grew out of something it is usually used to denegrate what was once liked to seem "mature"
Suburban Thug
Member
Is there any way for me to get stick of truth if I didn't preorder? I really want to play it but only have a PS4.
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Think it comes with all copies no matter what.
AdmiralMikey
Member
Because not everyone who is interested in video games or reads video game websites is a South Park watcher. Some people may be interested in the game without necessarily caring about the TV show, and I think it's good that there are a handful of perspectives on the game from reviewers who don't necessarily care about the show.
I find Phil Kollar from Polygon to be one of the game reviewers I agree with most and pretty respectable in general. So I am curious to know his thoughts on South Park simply as a video game than as an extension of the TV show. It seems there are parts of the actual video game that he appreciates, despite not being a fan of the show. That's valuable to know for other gamers who may not be a fan of the show.
theonerayman
Member
I like polygon, but it's beyond stupid to have someone who doesn't like a property to review a game. I've been in the radio business for almost 15 years and I do music reviews from time to time. I hate screamo music, this would be like having me review some screamo bands new album. It might be amazing for its target audience but I hate every second of it. Dumb move from polygon.
angelic
Banned
It's dumb in terms of offering a good review, but we're talking about them because of it.
I would feel those people are misguided and should probably spend their time on games they would have a more complete interest in. Again, this would be like me whining about how pro wrestling has a toxic effect on our culture because of X arbitrary reasons, generally not understanding why fans like it and lamenting its place in our society with no nuance. It's not a game or piece of media made for me and that's okay.
Suburban Thug
Member
Ok thank goodness. That's really awesome of them if true, the publisher could have easily sold it stand alone for $20 and I'd buy it.
Audioboxer
Member
A 7/10 is absolutely respectable for this game. Why wouldn't it be? It is a bit eye-rolling though when a review goes out its way to make part of it an almost "I'm your parent and this is how you should grow up/mature/think about what you're laughing at". People know what to expect from South Park, it's stayed consistent since it first started with lampooning everything, and sometimes spending more time going after something if it ends up having the most outcries attached to it. PC Principal is a popular character because even today people still lose their shit any time he appears (a little bit of irony considering he turned out a good guy and you can tell who actually watches SP).
There's a funny Giantbomb video streaming the trailer live and because PC Principal appears it's like a bunch of middle aged men all doing their best job of frowning face and tut tutting. I genuinely think some people try too hard to put on their most sterile and sternest face around SP, instead of just relaxing and chilling out. Take it less seriously. Don't go looking for diamonds in amongst a pile of shit. South Park has always been trashy late night comedy, where you're supposed to turn your brain off and escape the depressing reality of real life. Everyone needs to take life less seriously every now and then and there is a reason adults, yes, not teenagers, adults, can still enjoy SP. Sometimes holding onto a bit of your youth inside of you helps you be a well rounded adult. Instead of just being a sour faced old dude constantly saying "kids these days laughing at things I find offensive".
Considering the many demonstrative male allies that turned out to be assholes and weirdos behind the scenes the PC Principal character and humor was ultimately spot on.
therealminime
Member
My biggest problem with it so far is that I am just not finding it funny in any way. And I really enjoyed the craziness of the humor in Stick of Truth. I am hoping it picks up as it goes but thus far it's just excessive fart jokes.
angelic
Banned
This will put you at risk of drone strike.
Terrorblot
Member
Because it isn't a critics obligation to be a fanboy of something before passing judgement? I haven't been a huge fan of Polygon's reviews in the past but I find it particularly silly that people are trying to shield SOUTH PARK, something that gets it's laughs from criticism of pop culture from criticism itself.
Almost every South Park POV:
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
I am only assuming this because all the boxes I seen have it on the box no matter what.
Audioboxer
Member
That too, but as a baseline for South Park I still advise don't take it seriously. Even when it has political undertones that may satirise real life, still just treat it as an animated cartoon with bad language and low-ball humour.
People can discuss the nasty hypocritical individuals you speak of outside of thinking it has to be SPs job to point them out. SP makes fun of them, but real life discourse should really be what we rely on to ferret out wolves in sheep's clothing. People have lied, deceived and tricked since well before SP existed. People who don't think there are any "good allies" on your side lieing/feigning are being incredibly naive to the human condition of sometimes wanting attention/fame/support/praise and ego related satisfaction.
The "male ally" turned into creep/criminal is just the modern day take on something that's happened for generations. Social media simply helps subject eyes to individuals behaviour all around the world. As I said if you take SP simply for what it is, then you shouldn't end up writing conflicted blog posts where one week you're saying "well done SP for mocking white nationalists, that's progressive", and then the next week saying "how dare you mock and imply male allies are all creeps! this is alt-right propaganda!". No, it's just SP having digs at different people and groups. Sometimes that might include a group you see yourself as part of.
Criticism of the show and as I said you absenting yourself from ever watching it, or playing the games is one thing. The almost police like state some get themselves into where they verge on wanting others not to laugh or enjoy something is where it can get a bit eye-rolling.
Because it isn't a critics obligation to be a fanboy of something before passing judgement? I haven't been a huge fan of Polygon's reviews in the past but I find it particularly silly that people are trying to shield SOUTH PARK, something that gets it's laughs from criticism of pop culture from criticism itself.
Almost every South Park POV:
Nobody is "shielding" South Park as far as I can tell. I don't follow the show outside of what most people know or identify with its politics but game journalists using their very limited bully pulpit to lecture fans, presumably the game's main buying audience, about South Park's toxicity is pretty laughable to me.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, I love Obsidian, but I'd say most what was good likely came directly from Matt and Trey who were really hands on with it. So losing Obsidian here is probably not a big deal.
Because it isn't a critics obligation to be a fanboy of something before passing judgement? I haven't been a huge fan of Polygon's reviews in the past but I find it particularly silly that people are trying to shield SOUTH PARK, something that gets it's laughs from criticism of pop culture from criticism itself.
Almost every South Park POV:
South Park can and should get a lot of criticism, but they're anything but centrists
Dusktildawn48
Member
Really wish this wasn't coming out right now, have so many games to play.
The Elite
BOSS
Because it isn't a critics obligation to be a fanboy of something before passing judgement? I haven't been a huge fan of Polygon's reviews in the past but I find it particularly silly that people are trying to shield SOUTH PARK, something that gets it's laughs from criticism of pop culture from criticism itself.
Almost every South Park POV:
This looks like it was done by someone who has never watched the show or even seen a clip of it.
Demoskinos
Member
Sure if you like lazy half-baked social commentary and "comedy" I'm sure this game is a knee-slapper.
Terrorblot
Member
I honestly don't want to get into anything heated or derail the topic, but South Park has always seen quite center-right to me usually taking pot shots at anyone who believes in any one thing too sincerely, usually with some libertarian personal responsibility first angle embedded into whichever character they're using as their own soap box.
GurgleBot20
Member
Good to see we're at the "if you criticize elements not gameplay related then you're a triggered SJW looking for clicks" part of this thread.
This has been South Park's thing for 10+ years now: armchair, not always good social commentary and toilet humor. Acting like you're delivering some biting and novel criticism of it is in of itself a joke.
off duty ninja
Member
You mean the point where people with no interest in a game decide to enter it's review thread to shit on it and its fans?
Me too!