The Last Wizard
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I wish Phil would shut up and stop playing the pr game. Give us some details about your systems if youre really genuine about wanting this to happen.
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Phil Spencer on Cross Play with Sony- "[Sony] should talk about what their view is"
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How do you mean? What more details are you after beyond the games that are coming with crossplay in them across as many platforms permit?
Something that sony didn't actually say (fanboys created that excuse) and then coming out with a good ole shitpost about microsoft not having first party games (cause we all know that's extremely relevant to the topic) is something you think should have ended the thread?
Seriously, what is he supposed to do if an interviewer asks him a question?
lol what a crock of shit. he's answering interview questions.
That's bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about. Rocket League and Fortnite don't need Xbox Live logins. Sony never said that was the reason. Stop being a corporate shill.
No it couldn't because that's made up. If you want to be a corporate shill at least get your facts straight and don't go on quoting and spewing bullshit that doesn't exist.
tiredheadcrab
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He was asked in an interview about it at the Brazil games show. Are you both being obtuse on purpose?
TharpDaddy
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He probably means so that we can all ruminate on how bad of a post it is and how quickly defensive console warriors can derail threads.
Woah, people are angry this keeps being mentioned? Probably the same people wanting complaints about loot boxes toned down.
It needs to keep being said so they change their mind/priorities, and if we want it, why should we keep quiet? Not even just us, it will be a problem for Sony as well of they still don't have it by next gen, I can see it being a point to consider.
It needs to keep being said so they change their mind/priorities, and if we want it, why should we keep quiet? Not even just us, it will be a problem for Sony as well of they still don't have it by next gen, I can see it being a point to consider.
Huge Succeeded
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Phil responds to questions like anyone else. You don't see most of what he says because most of what he says isn't contentious or even interesting enough to carry a whole discussion or center a thread around.
TimeEffect
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Sony should put their foot in their mouths
It's Phil Spencer, what do you expect? I wonder what indie logo was on his shirt and hoodie combo.
Oh bloody hell it's not about that and you know it isnt, the vast majority of people here just want to see a unified infrastructure, it's an objectively good thing for us as consumers but for obvious reasons it seems to lure PR apologists and console warriors out the woodwork (and yes, your post was an irrelevant jab considering the very obscure and less popular audiences Sony has had crossplay with before)
Stop defending it, it was shit when Microsoft was shrugging it off in the 360 era and it's shit that Sony is doing it now
Ahh I was gonna say, it was a really bad post lol.
Yeah, lets not talk anymore about racism! We already talk too much about it, right?
Im curious, I play lots of games across PC, PS4, Switch. I am a bit clueless how any of this really matters beyond a talking point.
I get that it sounds awesome, just not convinced it matters.
Not sure why you're explaining what Cross play is good for, it's not a concept hard to grasp. And I'm not fighting against it if that is what you think, I have just come to terms with the market leader not really having an interest in implementing it. Last gen it was MS now it's Sony.
Norwegian_Imposter
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Christ I am not saying Sony should get a pass far fucking from it but my god Phil Spencer and his "crowd pleasing" responses trigger me something fierce.
Dash_Riprock
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But he's the Savior of Xbox!
PanicFreak
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The Futurist
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What the fuck is wrong with some of you?
He's being asked a question in an interview.
He wants to allow cross play and Sony doesn't. That's obviously the answer that's he's going to give.
Whatever reason Sony has is fine, but they are the ones that don't want it to happen. It's not a stance that is good for gamers. It's a stance they are taking because they are killing Microsoft in terms of sales and don't feel the need to do anything.
They didn't allow EA access either. Which surprisingly turned out to be a great value.
He's being asked a question in an interview.
He wants to allow cross play and Sony doesn't. That's obviously the answer that's he's going to give.
Whatever reason Sony has is fine, but they are the ones that don't want it to happen. It's not a stance that is good for gamers. It's a stance they are taking because they are killing Microsoft in terms of sales and don't feel the need to do anything.
They didn't allow EA access either. Which surprisingly turned out to be a great value.
Well it won't matter to everyone, at least not in an obvious-at-first way, it seems. That's fine. Some of us are just very passionate about it because we can see potential in eliminating the pointless barriers that have become outdated and serve no purpose but division.
No I dont have a statement which is why I believe we should ask Sony about crossplay more.
Xaero Gravity
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At least you're kind of living up to your name. 😜
Blam
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No it couldn't have because it's wrong.
I guess I'm quoting myself again.
Also this thread needs to be cleaned up there's bait posts scattered around this thread.
Yeah, I get that for sure.
It apparently is for a good majority of this thread.
My response was purely to tell people that, you're right that PS4 has a heavy lead on the comptetition, but that shouldn't come at the cost of cross play.
Nobody is being a shill. With Minecraft cross play you need a MS account. Put yourself in the shoes of Sony's CEO. Would you want your consumers to sign up for Xbox Live? No.
And MS really does need to worry about their first party games and stop cancelling and closing studios. They should be trying to get Final Fantasy XIV on their system since they're so open to cross play now.
Its the same reason we dont have EA access in PS4. Sony wants to make money and it will screw the consumer if it needs to happen. Bullshit excuses like not a good value or protect he children are just that, bullshit. They think they can make more money by only offering their services (PS Now or whatever) and by locking their system down more people would have to buy a console to play with their friends who have a PS4.
WaterAstro
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Maybe Phil should talk about his view about buying timed exclusives while cancelling Scalebound.
tiredheadcrab
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Yeah see thats false. Any sales thread that comes along on gaf we consistently hear how Sony was behind last gen. They werent, they held strong against MS. I mean in the USA MS was doing very well compared to Sony but worldwide PlayStation was holding strong.
TharpDaddy
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Cool, so why does Sony block Rocket League crossplay which doesn't require an Xbox account?
Just become a gaming journalist and ask him, no ?
2blackcats
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If you can't specifically play with your friends and have party chat, what's the point?
Lol exactly. Don't even bother venturing onto N4G's take on this right now. The excuses are as follows:
1. No one wants it
2. Xbox is desperate because low playerbase
3. Microsoft is hiding something! (I shit you not)
4. Xbox Live is mandatory
GribbleGrunger
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It's so warming to see so many XB1 fans wanting to play with PS4 owners. Unfortunately, it looks like the only way they'll be able to do that is to buy a PS4. This is business suicide by Sony. Can't they see that!?
Even buying into your premise that it needs those things day one or it's useless... given how trivial the connection is, such that developers are reaching a point of doing it accidentally... why not do it?
That said, if you don't see a point in cross play until those things are in place. That's fine. You'll have to be patient until it has a point to you then.
Blam
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Lmao Xbox Live is mandatory so is PSN kek.
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/rocket-league-dev-on-xbox-oneps4-cross-play-weve-g/1100-6435864/
Rocket League discusses the benefits.
This one relates to Xbox more, but there are other articles which talk about benefits for everyone.
The Futurist
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Don't forget:
5. Maybe Microsoft should focus on their first party instead of trying to get cross play.
Or maybe some of us have all the consoles but our friends don't. Maybe there are a million reasons why uniting the player bases is better for everyone.
Huge Succeeded
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skill-based matchmaking works better with a larger player pool
regional matchmaking works better with a larger player pool
larger player pools in general benefit regions where the playerbase of a given game isn't as large as it would be in, say, the US or UK
Interfectum
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Rocket League devs were apparently working on this issue last I checked. As cross-platform play becomes the norm things like this will get solved.
It has been said a couple of times in this thread. Even better matchmaking and connection are two reasons why. And they also have to start somewhere before having more advanced features like party chat and friend invites. With more and more games having crossplay, the more chance we have of having these features. Its the next logical step.
TharpDaddy
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They allow cross-play with PC which doesn't have parties or voice chat across platforms. It gives a larger playbase to matchmake from, which means you can more accurately get matched with people of your similar skill level. The larger a playerbase is, the better your experience will be.
Breakfast at Noon
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They don't need to do it, and as a business decision it makes no sense for the winner to do it.
Some of us have mates (plural I know!) playing on multiple platforms.
Not just that, but cross play would enhance player numbers, faster matchmaking and increased chances of being matched with similar skilled players.
No one in their right mind would excuse Sony for this. Sony can come up with "For the Shareholders" excuse if it wants but that does little for the players.
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