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macfoshizzle · Jul 21, 2017

Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation. So researching little bit on this, the original statistics were refused by some scientist because it didn't align exactly with the belt. However, they calculated the alignment for 2550BC when they originally theorized that's about when the Pyramids were built. New calculations indicate that the alignment to the Orion's belt is precise in 10500BC, indicating that the Pyramids are much older. I just want to know if this is true and accepted?

super-famicom · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation. So researching little bit on this, the original statistics were refused by some scientist because it didn't align exactly with the belt. However, they calculated the alignment for 2550BC when they originally theorized that's about when the Pyramids were built. New calculations indicate that the alignment to the Orion's belt is precise in 10500BC, indicating that the Pyramids are much older. I just want to know if this is true and accepted?

That's what the Illuminati want you to think.

Earthbound64 · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation.

No they don't.
Some people don't spend their time looking up nonsense like alien mummies.

Jacob · Jul 21, 2017

I've never heard of the earlier dating theory before but if the Ancient Egyptian civilization was actually 12,000+ years old I'd think that archaeological evidence of this would have been discovered by now, given the amount of work that has been done there.

I H8 Memes · Jul 21, 2017

No the pyramids are not over 12,000 years old.

Ri'Orius · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation. So researching little bit on this, the original statistics were refused by some scientist because it didn't align exactly with the belt. However, they calculated the alignment for 2550BC when they originally theorized that's about when the Pyramids were built. New calculations indicate that the alignment to the Orion's belt is precise in 10500BC, indicating that the Pyramids are much older. I just want to know if this is true and accepted?

Not familiar with the specific topic, but if someone is trying to use an Ancient Aliens-style celestial alignment to refute the archeological date of an ancient structure, it's almost certainly bullshit.

gdt · Jul 21, 2017

10500 bc holy shit lmao

ProtomanNeo · Jul 21, 2017

Earthbound64 said:
No they don't.
Some people don't spend their time looking up nonsense.

How is the Orion correlation theory nonsense?

Septimus Prime · Jul 21, 2017

What if the builders calculated for it to be aligned to 8000 years in their past?

ponpo · Jul 21, 2017

Call graham hancock

Dreadnought · Jul 21, 2017

Everyone knows the pyramids actually point to the aliens' home world. The same aliens that built them

akira28 · Jul 21, 2017

ProtomanNeo said:
How is the Orion correlation theory nonsense?

you can't eat it can you?

then its nonsense.

MattKeil · Jul 21, 2017

ProtomanNeo said:
How is the Orion correlation theory nonsense?

Well for one thing if they're trying to match Orion's belt, they're upside down. Orion's belt bends south, the pyramids bend north. Bet they fired that project manager!

Familienoberhauptvogel · Jul 21, 2017

Somewhere along this train of thought there was a giant leap taken to prove a point by making up an entire different theory.

ProtomanNeo · Jul 21, 2017

Septimus Prime said:
What if the builders calculated for it to be aligned to 8000 years in their past?

This is possible. Especially if that time period coincides with "Zep Tepi" translated as the First Time. The time when Egypt was founded.

elrechazado · Jul 21, 2017

Here you go dawg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_correlation_theory
Krupp also pointed out that the slightly bent line formed by the three pyramids was deviated towards the north, whereas the slight "kink" in the line of Orion's Belt was deformed to the south, and to match them up one or the other of them had to be turned upside-down.[11] Indeed, this is what was done in the original book by Bauval and Gilbert (The Orion Mystery),[12] which compares images of the pyramids and Orion without revealing that the pyramids map had been inverted.

Oops

tearsintherain · Jul 21, 2017

Dreadnought said:
Everyone knows the pyramids actually point to the aliens' home world. The same aliens that built them

Theonik · Jul 21, 2017

MattKeil said:
Well for one thing if they're trying to match Orion's belt, they're upside down. Orion's belt bends south, the pyramids bend north. Bet they fired that project manager!

Meh, customer should have set better acceptance criteria.

Iksenpets · Jul 21, 2017

Septimus Prime said:
What if the builders calculated for it to be aligned to 8000 years in their past?

What if they were just sort of shit at doing the alignment, and we've made a ridiculous theory out of an attempt to correct for their mistake?

The historical record on all of this is pretty clear, regardless. They weren't built 12000 years ago.

Syriel · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation.

Psah!

Everyone knows that the Pyramids were just landing pads for Goa'uld motherships.

Don't believe the lies.

The truth is out there.

norm9 · Jul 21, 2017

~10000 bc sounds about right since thats the time period when the Sphinx was created, based on the water level damage on the limestone or something.

LookAtMeGo · Jul 21, 2017

Yup. And the sphynx was a lion or a jackal until some asshole carved his head into it.

Mulligan · Jul 21, 2017

You need to calm down with these threads m8

macfoshizzle · Jul 21, 2017

Earthbound64 said:
No they don't.
Some people don't spend their time looking up nonsense like alien mummies.

i just said the theory of it. not that people believed in it

ViperVisor · Jul 21, 2017

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/06/new-dates-egypts-pharaohs

For example, the first known pyramid, the Step Pyramid at Saqqara, was built as a tomb for King Djoser, and historians usually put the beginning of his reign between 2667 and 2592 B.C.E.

As the researchers will report in tomorrow's issue of Science, they found that the Old Kingdom, which kicked off with Djoser's reign, began between 2691 and 2625 B.C.E.

platocplx · Jul 21, 2017

Honestly I believe humanity is a lot older than we think. And probally over time we will keep finding more and more evidence proving that. Time is a concept humanity has a hard time grasping especially vast quantities. Where people can't see how we evolved etc.

As for this? Maybe? If we see that the pyramids are way older.

BluePigGanon · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
I just want to know if this is true and accepted?

To answer your questions, no and no.

DrSlek · Jul 21, 2017

I didn't know that.

I also don't believe it even slightly.

Belker · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
Everyone knows about the theory of the Pyramids of Giza aligning with the Orion's belt constellation. So researching little bit on this, the original statistics were refused by some scientist because it didn't align exactly with the belt. However, they calculated the alignment for 2550BC when they originally theorized that's about when the Pyramids were built. New calculations indicate that the alignment to the Orion's belt is precise in 10500BC, indicating that the Pyramids are much older. I just want to know if this is true and accepted?

Is there evidence for the Egyptians placing emphasis on Orion or saying it had some part in their religion?

Let's say it could align, maybe the first question is 'Why would it?' To build something so massive with such precise placement; they would have to be a compelling reason to do so.

EDIT from Wikipedia

Through the hope of new life after death, Osiris began to be associated with the cycles observed in nature, in particular vegetation and the annual flooding of the Nile, through his links with the heliacal rising of Orion and Sirius at the start of the new year.[12] Osiris was widely worshipped as Lord of the Dead until the suppression of the Egyptian religion during the rise of Christianity in the Roman Empire.[15][1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris

Septimus Prime · Jul 21, 2017

Iksenpets said:
What if they were just sort of shit at doing the alignment, and we've made a ridiculous theory out of an attempt to correct for their mistake?

The historical record on all of this is pretty clear, regardless. They weren't built 12000 years ago.

"Man, these stones are heavy as fuck! Let's just put 'em down here. No one's going to fret over this."

LookAtMeGo · Jul 21, 2017

The sphynx also lines up with Leo at the same time the pyramids line up with Orions belt. Coincidence? I think not.

HeySeuss · Jul 21, 2017

Well the Sphynx is a lot older than scholars believe when you consider the evidence of water erosion. But I don't think the pyramids are older than we think. I do think they were built to mimic Orion's belt, but they're also the most prominent group of stars in the sky. Not like they had to be directly overhead to be patterned after.

Septimus Prime · Jul 21, 2017

ViperVisor said:
http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2010/06/new-dates-egypts-pharaohs

Djoser? That's where you get Ixion, right?

Earthbound64 · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
i just said the theory of it. not that people believed in it

And I said that not everyone knows it, because not everyone spends their time reading up on nonsense.
There are plenty of things that I don't know about. I'm sure someone somewhere has theories about all sorts of crazy stuff - doesn't mean I'm going to take the time to find out about it.

AlexFlame116 · Jul 21, 2017

Ooh I love reading about these kinds of things! Even if they aren't true!

macfoshizzle · Jul 21, 2017

elrechazado said:
Here you go dawg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_correlation_theory
Krupp also pointed out that the slightly bent line formed by the three pyramids was deviated towards the north, whereas the slight "kink" in the line of Orion's Belt was deformed to the south, and to match them up one or the other of them had to be turned upside-down.[11] Indeed, this is what was done in the original book by Bauval and Gilbert (The Orion Mystery),[12] which compares images of the pyramids and Orion without revealing that the pyramids map had been inverted.

Oops

but that was if it was aligned 2550BC.

one can argue that in 10500BC, it aligned perfectly, with consideration of the axial precession. that is why i'm asking, because not only did the Orion's Belt aligned but the Spinx aligned true north and faced directly to Leo.

HeySeuss · Jul 21, 2017

Earthbound64 said:
And I said that not everyone knows it, because not everyone spends their time reading up on nonsense.
There are plenty of things that I don't know about. I'm sure someone somewhere has theories about all sorts of crazy stuff - doesn't mean I'm going to take the time to find out about it.

You don't need to follow conspiracy theories to notice the correlation between the Giza pyramids and Orion's belt. Unless you've never seen any of the stars before.

Earthbound64 · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
the Spinx aligned true north ~~and faced directly to Leo.~~

You would have had something if you stopped part-way through.

HeySeuss said:
You don't need to follow conspiracy theories to notice the correlation between the Giza pyramids and Orion's belt. Unless you've never seen any of the stars before.

I've never been to the Giza pyramids before.

lastplayed · Jul 21, 2017

LookAtMeGo said:
Yup. And the sphynx was a lion or a jackal until some asshole carved his head into it.

I always liked this theory. The current head seems way too small.

HeySeuss · Jul 21, 2017

lastplayed said:
I always liked this theory.

That's not an uncommon one either.

PrivateWHudson · Jul 21, 2017

Maybe there were other markers placed in 10,000 BC, and the pyramids were built on those markers at a later date.

HeySeuss · Jul 21, 2017

Earthbound64 said:
I've never been to the Giza pyramids before.

Neither has 99% of the world's population. Unless you've never seen aerial photos of the famous Giza strip I'm not sure how you can be so obtuse here.

John Dunbar · Jul 21, 2017

they aligned the pyramids to the position of orion's belt at the time of the aliens' arrival.

they also left behind the screenplay for men in black.

Earthbound64 · Jul 21, 2017

HeySeuss said:
Neither has 99% of the world's population. Unless you've never seen aerial photos of the famous Giza strip I'm not sure how you can be so obtuse here.

I've never seen them in relation to the stars.
And I couldn't tell you what most of the "constellations" are, anyway.
Plus, the OP is talking about how they were arranged thousands of years ago.

MattKeil · Jul 21, 2017

HeySeuss said:
You don't need to follow conspiracy theories to notice the correlation between the Giza pyramids and Orion's belt. Unless you've never seen any of the stars before.

Except they don't correlate, beyond there being three of them. The pyramids are upside down compared to the Orion stars and they're off by well over 10 degrees compared to the stars' alignment with one another at the time.

If they are meant to correlate, the civilization that managed to align 60 ton blocks to an error margin of inches somehow managed to miss the mark by many meters when it came to where to put the fucking buildings.

Syder · Jul 21, 2017

If this theory rustles your jimmies...

try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHiad18ZwcY

Jedi2016 · Jul 21, 2017

I just finished reading a book on the history of the pharaonic era of Egypt, and it turns out there's actually pretty good archaeological evidence of the original unification of the country and the founding of the First Dynasty. Not a lot of written details, to be sure, but there's still carbon dating... meaning we know pretty conclusively when it happened. And it sure as shit wasn't twelve thousand years ago.

There are plenty of other pyramids all over Egypt, and they don't line up with anything. Placement near another pyramid was usually just a way of trying to make oneself look more important and riding the coattails of the greater pharaoh.

The one true thing about the placement and orientation of the pyramids at Giza is that they're perfectly aligned with true north (or were, at the time of their construction... they're off by a fraction of a degree now).

HStallion · Jul 21, 2017

macfoshizzle said:
but that was if it was aligned 2550BC.

one can argue that in 10500BC, it aligned perfectly, with consideration of the axial precession. that is why i'm asking, because not only did the Orion's Belt aligned but the Spinx aligned true north and faced directly to Leo.

The Pyramids wouldn't look anything like they do today if they were built 100,000 years ago. They would be eroded mounds at best, if totally gone and absorbed by the surrounding natural environment.

Unknown Soldier · Jul 21, 2017

Dreadnought said:
Everyone knows the pyramids actually point to the aliens' home world. The same aliens that built them

Ummm, the pyramids were just used as landing pads for the alien ships. To get to the alien homeworld, you simply find and re-activate the Stargate.

Subpar Spatula · Jul 21, 2017

How do you align a structure with the stars? Do you just look up and build the fucker under it?

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