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Gran Turismo Sport is extremely limited in offline mode (no saves, unlocks, etc..)
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"Just don't play it"
Hippopuncher12
Member
But it doesn't.......it only needs Plus if you want to do online multiplayer races.
I am pretty confused myself.
the Demo clearly stated that it would not save..
The servers went down when I played, and I got a message telling me that my progress would not be saved.. when I turned off the game, and started it again and the servers came back, my progress was gone (some drivers license tests)..
so it is not like that anymore?
PsihoPerihelion
Member
They knew, they just want to join the current mob cuz reasons. Nobody's gonna remember this a week from now.
Complicated
Banned
Yikes. I knew this was a pared down experience, but that's really something.
IISANDERII
Member
You dont know how right you are. This is way above Overwatch, GTS is officially sanctioned by a sports governing body so its need to be compliant is many times greater than probably any other game.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
I honestly thought the demo was restrictive because it's a demo and they want to lock the functionality of it to ensure no one plays it after the service goes down. If that's how the entire game is then I want none of it.
So here's my question, what will happen to GTS once it's online service goes down in a few years, is the game a paperweight?
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Thank you for this. There should be some furious googling after it.
Those that suddenly hand waved loot crates when it turned out their favorite game was balanced around them...
gundamkyoukai
Member
Have people read anything about this game for months .
Plus being online ( not talk about PSN+ ) to save your progress has been normal for a while now.
Plus being online ( not talk about PSN+ ) to save your progress has been normal for a while now.
Hitokiri03
Member
Yep, they did this change during the closed beta, it used to save locally.
And still the game has an arcade mode and license tests where progress is not saved.
IIRC some said it has more sp content than ever.
A tiny percentage, but don't let that stop everyone going bat shit crazy over it.
I get that some people dislike a game being (essentially) online only, so if it bothers you, then pick up something else.
Maintenance
Member
2blackcats
Member
There's a difference between an online only game and an online only console.
Like I'm sure there are people who have access to incredibly poor or no Internet. Those people aren't playing Overwatch.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
5 million is bad for GT standards.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
No, people have not read anything about the game. I was going in blindly as it's known what GT games offer.
I hate the online-only focus of games these days. It's great to save progress online, but hindering offline progress useless is a shame.
Do you seriously not know the difference?
Plus membership isn't required. An online connection is. Significant difference.
Lack of offline saves has to do with how they're handling the progression, specifically the FIA stuff. I wouldn't be shocked if that was in the contract with the FIA as they don't want people cheating their way to an actual driver's license.
Is focusing even more on the eSports stuff a poor decision? Almost certainly. But saying "it's because Sony wants to sell more Plus memberships!" is absurd.
pixelation
Member
Yup, plus it's an online focused game and... who doesn't have internet in this day and age?
There is nothing gamers love more than getting angry at something that will almost certainly never affect them.
What does being a plus member have to do with being online?
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Probably those folks posting here using carrier pigeons.
Are you keeping a list?
This is not a console, it is a game designed around competing in online races.
I'm going to guess no. Any answer is a guess since we're talking about something that is four years out at minimum.
yep, me too:
btw, that thread has more views that OT Forza 7 thread
edit: ^ I guess that because Forza fans spend more time in GT threads rather than in Forza 7 OT
Herp Derpington
Member
There's a difference until there's not one. This is how acceptance of stuff like this gets started.
What do you think? Open your eyes to what's going on. It's one game today, 5 games next year, every game 4 years from now. Or are you saying you're ok with companies testing the waters for requiring online at all times?
yep, me too:
btw, that thread has more views that OT Forza 7 thread
Probably because people kept saying that it was only a demo and the full game would be different....
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
yep, me too:
btw, that thread has more views that OT Forza 7 thread
Demo does not represent the final game at times. I did not like it one bit that I had the demo for a week and I only played for mere three hours because the servers kept on fucking up and I couldn't play the game at all since it required me to be connected online.
If that's representative for the final game then lol.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
What? Most people were shocked it was essentially the full game.
chrominance
Member
Tell that to all the people who couldn't play DriveClub at launch (and for up to a month afterwards) because the servers were dying constantly. "Doesn't really affect anyone" my ass.
If this is true, that's at least better--online required for online-only modes, fine. But this also directly contradicts the Ars Technica article, which says campaign mode is not accessible AT ALL and that unlocks and credits in arcade mode are not saved while offline. There are screenshots that literally say that progress is not saved while offline. The article also says Sony pointed them to a blog post about what's contained in the offline save (basically just game settings like resolution and volume) when asked for comment. So where are you getting your information from?
Also, this doesn't address the other claims in the article, like PHOTO MODE being locked behind online functionality. What possible reason is there to restrict PHOTO MODE? Even the stated reason of the FIA partnership requiring it doesn't make any sense.
Your claim was GTS and GT6 are what killed the series. so we're moving goal posts now? I mentioned that it came on the PS3 after the PS4 had already launched and if GT6 somehow killed the series, we wouldn't have GT Sport and I doubt Polyphony would still be open.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Hasn't this been known for months if you even did a modicum of research or digging into this game? I mean, they referenced a bunch of e-sports shit when it was announced, it's been clear where the focus was. Now, that might not be for you, and that's fine, but lets stop acting like people are being deceived here. They have a giant sticker on the box. They are being fairly transparent.
Online connection for an online focused game is not the same as a console with DRM for all games also hampering used game sales.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
Yup.
GAF never disappoints.
awilliams213
Member
I just saw an article about the reason why very brief on Arstechnica
"The reasoning behind the move has to do with the linkup between Gran Turismo and the FIA, the international organization that runs world motorsport. FIA-recognized e-sports are an integral part of the game, so keeping everyone's saves in the cloud is meant to keep everyone honest and above-board."
"The reasoning behind the move has to do with the linkup between Gran Turismo and the FIA, the international organization that runs world motorsport. FIA-recognized e-sports are an integral part of the game, so keeping everyone's saves in the cloud is meant to keep everyone honest and above-board."
It still is bs in 2017, though.
Good thing I decided to now out in the end. Definitely don't like this trend of Locking single player offline content behind online to get people to pay the online ransom.
Isn't most of the game online multiplayer?
Yes it does. Gran Turismo came out as a game that you could play to immerse yourself in car culture and escape and not deal with others optionally.
As much as I think the communication around this game ended up being complicated because of the changes in scope over its development, I think PD has done a decent job getting out in front of realizations like this. The major challenge to them on the public discussion side has been the well-meaning enthusiasts fighting the clarifications at every step. Even realities explained clearly in the final demo, I saw people insisting that it would be different in the final game. There are/were confirmations all over the place letting people know it's primarily an online title, that the career is an advanced (and rewarding) skill tutorial, and not to expect track dynamics like changing weather or passage-of-time for the game as it launches. Which is fine for me when what's there is polished to a mirror finish. They'll be supporting the game with tons of post-launch additions/improvements.
(I do still dislike that the single-player stuff outside of the free-play mode need online.)
(I do still dislike that the single-player stuff outside of the free-play mode need online.)
amdb00mer
Member
Gotta be patched in. Could you imagine racing offline and earning a bit of credits? Then it not letting you save or thinking it auto-saved and you come back and are missing all those earned credits. I would bet this gets patched on Day 1.
BBQ_of_DOOM
Member
E-sports.
See above.
Did you try it? Because this has car--and racing culture--in spades.
chrominance
Member
Yup. E-sports ruins everything.
They did not lock single player out. You can play every bit of single player content you want in this game without a PS plus subscription.