abstract alien
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They may do like 3ds and "replace" it with the new versions as they release. Well, hopefully.
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WiiU games with Off TV Play
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plagiarize
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well, save states are presumably a memory dump that could be read on any system no matter the architecture. Nintendo tweak their emulators on a game by game basis, so presumably all that would be necessary would be to create a new emulator and it would be easy to maintain save states.
doesn't mean it will happen of course... but it's completely plausible that a game could make the transition from one to the other.
brandonh83
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I'm in that denial stage where my brain has convinced itself that Nintendo will release an update that allows for VC games to be played on the 'Pad.
IrishNinja
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it really does - holding off on some VC purchases just to make sure there's no 2013 side-hustle of "BUY THESE NEW VC RE-RELEASES: now bringing pad play + accomplishments" or something, heh
evilromero
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That's a huge disappointment especially for VC stuff.
Very unlikely. It sounds like that the WiiU OS is not even loaded in RAM once Wii mode is running, similiar to how the 3DS OS isn't loaded when running DS games. For Wii VC games to work on the pad, they'll need to remodel Wii mode to support the gamepad's proprietary transfer protocol and then modify the VC emulators to support gamepad output. I very much doubt this will happen, as Nintendo probably sees it as too much work for little reward.
Hopefully they'll announce a WiiU VC soon which allows for gamepad play, since it'll actually be running off the WiiU OS.
Some of the Nintendo Land mini-games also support off-TV play. Metroid Blast and Zelda Battle Quest have been confirmed. Pikmin Adventure and Donkey Kong Crash Course seem likely.
No one should expect any additional features from Nintendo with respect to BC. BC is BC and they haven't promised you anything more than to play old system games exactly like they played on the old system. Why don't we start expecting backwards compatibility from all platforms as much as Nintendo has been doing for a while?
And VC games will eventually get re-released for sale outside of Wii Mode, so there is no need to get all flustered. Now, whether you would need to rebuy or you could get a free upgrade is another story. It really isn't so easy to add gamepad support to the Wii VC. They already tried and it didn't work too great. They don't have infinite resources.
No one should expect any additional features from Nintendo with respect to BC. BC is BC and they haven't promised you anything more than to play old system games exactly like they played on the old system. Why don't we start expecting backwards compatibility from all platforms as much as Nintendo has been doing for a while?
And VC games will eventually get re-released for sale outside of Wii Mode, so there is no need to get all flustered. Now, whether you would need to rebuy or you could get a free upgrade is another story. It really isn't so easy to add gamepad support to the Wii VC. They already tried and it didn't work too great. They don't have infinite resources.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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No, it's at the discretion of the developers but it takes only two lines of code to implement.
Off TV really looks like Wii U's killer feature:
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/13/wii-u-gamepad-console-gaming-with-no-tv-required/
http://kotaku.com/5960270/wii-u-could-be-the-perfect-console-for-people-like-me
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/13/wii-u-gamepad-console-gaming-with-no-tv-required/
http://kotaku.com/5960270/wii-u-could-be-the-perfect-console-for-people-like-me
Technically true, but the thing is: Next to no one perceived the ability to play bought Virtual Console games as "backwards compatibility". When buying the games on the Wii Shop, most people assumed the Virtual Console would be one coherent service that Nintendo would offer over the next generations to come.
However, the reality is that it's not one coherent service, but that Nintendo starts a new Virtual Console every time they release a new console. You bought the games already on another Virtual Console? Well, you're out of luck, if you want to play the new version you've got to pay once again! This is not what many people thought they were buying into. Especially because the competition is, once again, two steps ahead of Nintendo in this regard. You don't see Sony requiring you to buy the PSone games you bought on the PS3 again if you want to play them on the PSP or Vita. Nintendo on the other hand? They don't give a flying shit whether or not you already own all of the NES games available on 3DS's VC on Wii. Buy again!
Off TV sounds really, really good.
I hope some 3rd party develops a range extender that I can place somewhere in my house, so I can still play the WiiU in my bedroom. That would be perfect.
TheMagician
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I read that Epic Mickey 2 DOESN'T have the feature.
Am I wrong?
Am I wrong?
are we absolutely sure about the OP list?
AC3 sounds new to me, for example, while I was waiting for firm confirmation about Fifa (I'd be interested in this)
Great feature for me, I hope a lot of games (especially multiplatform, that don't base their core gameplay on indipendent windows as Zombi or Land) will implement this
AC3 sounds new to me, for example, while I was waiting for firm confirmation about Fifa (I'd be interested in this)
Great feature for me, I hope a lot of games (especially multiplatform, that don't base their core gameplay on indipendent windows as Zombi or Land) will implement this
ninja edit: Nintendo just posted a mini-direct about Wii U VC. rebuy status still uncertain.
I'm a little perturbed that you only quoted part of what I wrote. Fact is, Nintendo hasn't announced anything yet. You're making an assumption based on what? 3DS and Wii Virtual consoles?
The first issue is that it appears that Nintendo has finally built a network with robust user accounts. And when the Wii U virtual console launches, Nintendo will have to figure out how linking your NNID to all of your devices produces what features. I already mentioned above that they will have to choose whether to force Wii VC users to rebuy, or if there will be a way of transferring.
Nintendo already said you can link all of your future hardware to one NNID. So the issue becomes, how will they let you manage your digital content. It's unfair to judge them based on how they did things with the Wii. Are they behind Sony and M$ with respect to network capabilities? Sure. But don't assume that they will try to screw you when they haven't announced that they want to screw you. They have a network now that will hopefully fix this.
I'm a little perturbed that you only quoted part of what I wrote. Fact is, Nintendo hasn't announced anything yet. You're making an assumption based on what? 3DS and Wii Virtual consoles?
The first issue is that it appears that Nintendo has finally built a network with robust user accounts. And when the Wii U virtual console launches, Nintendo will have to figure out how linking your NNID to all of your devices produces what features. I already mentioned above that they will have to choose whether to force Wii VC users to rebuy, or if there will be a way of transferring.
Nintendo already said you can link all of your future hardware to one NNID. So the issue becomes, how will they let you manage your digital content. It's unfair to judge them based on how they did things with the Wii. Are they behind Sony and M$ with respect to network capabilities? Sure. But don't assume that they will try to screw you when they haven't announced that they want to screw you. They have a network now that will hopefully fix this.
The Hermit
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I hope in the next year Nintendo unifies all eShop content ( WiiU and 3DS) so you can download it in any system and share between them. The fact that its called eShop in both systems gives me hope.
WiiWare and VC is its own thing right now and unfortunatly I don't think they can or will make those games playable on the pad, unless you buy the eShop version again...
Macho Madness
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Now that we know Nintendo is planning a Wii U VC with Gamepad support, what does everyone think? This would be a huge feature for me. I hope it comes sooner rather than later.
I hope the WiiU Virtual Console will be pre-stocked with all the items from the Wii Virtual Console... it seems completely backward to have to restart the cycle over again. Then you should be able to transfer. I have a feeling they're overlooking the feature for now so they can get the console out on time.
frankie_baby
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I really can't see why not
FlashbladeGAF
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already confirmed to be doing this
there will be a Wii-U Virtual Console as stated by Iwata in the latest Nintendo Direct
Twilight Princess
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I wonder if some kind of wireless repeater is possible to extend the range of the UPad...
RocketDarkness
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Mighty Switch Force HD is also supporting it.
RPGCrazied
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That sucks, that means no skyward sword or twilight princess on the gamepad screen.
wow that actually makes me consider getting blops2 lol. I'm really, really, really, really disappointed that we can't take our VC games. WTF, really? I hope they wise up and have them available later. I know they want a reason for people to buy from the Wii U VC whenever and whatever that will be, but there's no good reason they can't transfer the other games forward and let us enjoy them on the pad. It's a crazy decision.
Clay Davis
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thanks for the list.
I had no clue that so many games allowed for off tv play. trine 2 is a must buy, I think I might also buy assassins creed 3 and trade in my xbox 360 copy. I haven't progressed far and the option to play it on the gamepad in bed is too tempting to pass up.
I had no clue that so many games allowed for off tv play. trine 2 is a must buy, I think I might also buy assassins creed 3 and trade in my xbox 360 copy. I haven't progressed far and the option to play it on the gamepad in bed is too tempting to pass up.
zephervack
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Well fuck, this is a killer feature for me, being able to play from the first floor of my house while the Wii U is in the basement will be a godsend. My gaming time will increase for sure.
Clay Davis
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my worry is that developers, over time, won't bother implementing this feature. I hope that doesn't happen, but it's a distinct possibility if nintendo don't keep the pressure up by ensuring all their games offer the option and encourage developers to take advantage of it because it really is one of the biggest features of the console and quite revolutionary in a way.
zephervack
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Such a balancing act right? We want them to use the screen for innovative things but also want them to be able to use it exclusively for the main game.
Tall order for developers, wouldnt want to be them.
Macho Madness
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I'd say it can go both ways. Have a game that can be played entirely with just the Gamepad screen, but still have extra features if you're using the Gamepad as just the controller. Batman AC AE is doing exactly this.
Smiles and Cries
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I cannot wait for this... I just cannot say no to most games that uses this feature
Flakster99
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Now this is what I call a big-time feature.
Developers that make use of the gamepad for added gameplay features AND give us the option for off TV play will get my money. 3rd parties, make it work and do it. I won't say no to most games that uses this feature. You will get my money.
And for all that is holy and good, VC absolutely needs to be implemented. Not in 2 months. Not next year. A.S.A.P.
Developers that make use of the gamepad for added gameplay features AND give us the option for off TV play will get my money. 3rd parties, make it work and do it. I won't say no to most games that uses this feature. You will get my money.
And for all that is holy and good, VC absolutely needs to be implemented. Not in 2 months. Not next year. A.S.A.P.
Clay Davis
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you're right, but I believe both ways are possible. as mentioned by thewesker, some games like arkham city offer both, so it does come down to how much effort the developer is willing to put into their game.
are they going to take the easy path and not allow it or will they make their games and thus more appealing by offering both a unique gamepad experience and off tv play.
it's not going to be easy, but I believe the benefits far outweigh any negatives if developers pull it off. they can't rest on their laurels like they did with the wii.
Macho Madness
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I am not confident that Epic Mickey 2 supports this.
Epic Mickey 2 does NOT have Off-TV Play. That's why it's not in the Giant Bomb list. They announced it but then they backpedaled since they couldn't get it in in time apparently.
yup
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So this doesn't have it and MSF HD does? I'll update right now
I'm trying to think of one that resolves well in fits-on-back-of-the-box size and can't think of one. I imagine they're going to start doing this though.
BigJonsson
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Does it ever skip or stutter? What is the screen resolution?
Clay Davis
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there's a severe lack in impressions in here. come on people, throw uk / eu members who won't get a wii u for another 11 days some crumbs.
how's off tv play? any lag issues? resolution problems? impressions, please.
how's off tv play? any lag issues? resolution problems? impressions, please.