I'd also like to know this. The reviews weren't stellar, but GAF seems to be unanimously in love with this. Before I pull the trigger, haters? Where you at?
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Binary Domain |OT| BUYING THIS GAME IS Not up for Nagoshiation
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I'd also like to know this. The reviews weren't stellar, but GAF seems to be unanimously in love with this. Before I pull the trigger, haters? Where you at?
Mattdaddy
Gold Member
Different look and style than what Im used to playing, in a good way. Something about the style kinda reminds me of metal gear. I like the characters and the gamey dialogue. I like the pacing of the cutscenes/story and action. I bought this knowing nothing about it but what I played in the demo, so I thought it was going to be pure action. The storytelling surprised me in a good way. The cutscene in ch. 2 or 3
where the hollow gets captured by the yakuza, has a shootout, then commits suicide... so awesome
The whole presentation is just fun and slick, and the combat is great. I've never played a Yakuza game but if it's by the same crew Im interested.
Riposte
Member
Yeah, you'll probably like Yakuza. 3/4 at least.
If you like everything about the writing, yes. I just say you should get Yakuza 3 because it's pretty cheap and then you'll know if you should get the sequel.
exmachina64
Banned
Started playing it yesterday and finished it this afternoon. I wasn't expecting to fall in love with this game, but here I am. This may seriously end up being in my top games of 2012; normally the gameplay in third person shooters is hit or miss with me.
Just a heads up, it starts slow. You might even hate it until you get to the city. Personally, I liked the slow start. But yeah, the drama and twists are vintage Nagoshi
Do you like:
- Contra
- Yakuza
- Terminator
- Ghost in the Shell
Then you'll love this (on survivor mode).
I'm going with PS3 version now since my PS3 headset seemed to have better recognition than my 360 headset. Just gotta wait for an Amazon gift card and i'm good to go. Also everyone with PS3 version, we need to get together and play Invasion mode.
skullwolfgp
Neo Member
Starts even slower if you watch the (very long) videos recapping Yakuza 1 and 2.
That said I also love the pacing. Yakuza 3 takes a lot of time to set stuff up and develop characters/relationships in order to create a more compelling story, which I really appreciate.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Was wondering if I should bump it up on my next play through.
Totally agree with that list but I would add Snatcher/Blade Runner to it.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
I am just playing for 20 minutes or so, but am I alone in my initial impression that the animation is stiff/janky? There's something about how the main character moves around that's just... weird.
It's very... robot like (heh).
It's very... robot like (heh).
exmachina64
Banned
Yeah, I felt that way about the opening chapter. It was more noticeable with Big Bo to me. Either it gets better as you get further in or I stopped noticing it. I experienced some slowdown in the demo levels on 360, but I didn't notice it in the full version.
IrishNinja
Member
got through state 1/prologue, up to demo stage 2 now! man, cool MGS feel early on, then kinda bleeds into Vanquish.
i'm gonna have a hard time sending this one back if it holds up like this. ps goddammit chinese sniper-chick, is there nothing i can say that pleases you
kinda yeah (PS3 version); id assumed that effect was from partially hearing him and partially hearing over the comm unit?
i'm gonna have a hard time sending this one back if it holds up like this. ps goddammit chinese sniper-chick, is there nothing i can say that pleases you
kinda yeah (PS3 version); id assumed that effect was from partially hearing him and partially hearing over the comm unit?
Noisepurge
Member
no, and its actually more authentic with english voices. Since all the different nationalities have their accents and most japanese people still speak japanese with subtitles.
the plot is all about noisy westerners making a mess in japan.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Wow, this game is really a lot of fun. I'm thoroughly impressed. I planned on picking up the 360 version, but went with the PS3 version at the last minute (I won't pay for Xbox Live, so I'd miss out on the multiplayer if I went that route). I'm glad I did--the performance and visuals are mostly just fine. I still can't believe this came from the Ryu ga Gotoku guys. They really upped their game all around. The shooting is a ton of fun.
Anyway, I guess this game has all the languages on the disc or something, because even though I bought a US copy, it detected my system region or language settings and the entire game is in Japanese. I'm enjoying it this way so far, but I think I'll end up playing it again in English to enjoy the dynamic of IRTA guys speaking English with regional accents and Japanese people speaking Japanese. The IRTA dudes speak in that really cheesy way just like in Japanese-dubbed Hollywood action movies. Everything's super over-the-top.
Anyway, I'm loving the characters, atmosphere, and setting most of all. That the shooting is great is just icing on the cake. The upgrade system seems pretty neat, too.
Anyway, I guess this game has all the languages on the disc or something, because even though I bought a US copy, it detected my system region or language settings and the entire game is in Japanese. I'm enjoying it this way so far, but I think I'll end up playing it again in English to enjoy the dynamic of IRTA guys speaking English with regional accents and Japanese people speaking Japanese. The IRTA dudes speak in that really cheesy way just like in Japanese-dubbed Hollywood action movies. Everything's super over-the-top.
Anyway, I'm loving the characters, atmosphere, and setting most of all. That the shooting is great is just icing on the cake. The upgrade system seems pretty neat, too.
Newegg has the game for $45!
360: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874163050
PS3: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16879257078
360: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16874163050
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IrishNinja
Member
$0.59 less than gamefly
gonna go email them and see if they'll pricematch
gonna go email them and see if they'll pricematch
I completed the story a second time last night. But considering how much I have spent time hunting for collectables in the Chapter Select mode, I bet I have played through the campaign more than three times already. And I haven't even gotten to the cool difficulty settings yet.
There is one major issue with the game for me.
It feels incomplete. Not based on the graphics or animations or sound or story, no. It feels incomplete as in there should be more to it. For example: we see the Japanese policemen intersecting the protagonist crew time and time again. It feels like there should be a side story that deals with what they are doing when Dan and the other misfits go massacring robots and destroying the city. Same goes for the B-team of the main campaign - Dan selects his companions and goes on, but what happens with the people he does not pick. I say there should be another side story, detailing their actions and the route they take through the city. Or what happens to Jean and Cain before you meet up with them?
There are so many opportunities to extend the campaign or at least provide a meaningful extension and a chance to earn more credits. The way I see it, it is quite difficult to max out all the characters or even the three guys you carry around with Dan the most. Plus at the higher difficulty levels, you need the extra power investment into Dan's main gun, that thing becomes ridiculously overpowered in the end.
If this was a game by any other company, I would bet that all the stuff I describe above arrives in the form of DLC. But this is Sega and Sega hates story DLC. So maybe we get some new characters or character skins, but the chance to get more meaningful campaign missions is zero. Unless they do a sequel.
There is one major issue with the game for me.
It feels incomplete. Not based on the graphics or animations or sound or story, no. It feels incomplete as in there should be more to it. For example: we see the Japanese policemen intersecting the protagonist crew time and time again. It feels like there should be a side story that deals with what they are doing when Dan and the other misfits go massacring robots and destroying the city. Same goes for the B-team of the main campaign - Dan selects his companions and goes on, but what happens with the people he does not pick. I say there should be another side story, detailing their actions and the route they take through the city. Or what happens to Jean and Cain before you meet up with them?
There are so many opportunities to extend the campaign or at least provide a meaningful extension and a chance to earn more credits. The way I see it, it is quite difficult to max out all the characters or even the three guys you carry around with Dan the most. Plus at the higher difficulty levels, you need the extra power investment into Dan's main gun, that thing becomes ridiculously overpowered in the end.
If this was a game by any other company, I would bet that all the stuff I describe above arrives in the form of DLC. But this is Sega and Sega hates story DLC. So maybe we get some new characters or character skins, but the chance to get more meaningful campaign missions is zero. Unless they do a sequel.
Horsemama1956
Member
So is the full version completely different then the demo? Being a huge Gears fan and knowing how cheesy those games are I found the demo embarrassing. Seems like they intentionally made the game into a parody to cover up how mediocre the mechanics and voice work is.
This game is not for you.
Well, the Yakuza games have a very similar type of presentation and story telling.
However, the gameplay itself is vastly different and much less polished. Binary Domain is a huge leap forward for the team in that regard.
Just know that Binary Domain is to Gears as Yakuza is to Shenmue. Yeah, it's more of an adventure game with hand to hand combat scattered about. It has more RPG elements than Shenmue and a faster pace, but there are a lot of similarities between them.
What are you talking about? I'm a huge fan of Gears as well and I absolutely love Binary Domain. The gameplay is actually surprisingly comparable and stands up very well against Gears. It simply has a very different style of story telling and more one off gameplay sequences.
Honestly, the voice work is a lot better than you might first think. They did a surprisingly convincing job with the dialog and the cutscenes are pretty damn fun to watch.
Here's a look at the story telling...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JexOLNelh1Q
hmmm no. I played the gears 3 demo and hated it but I am loving this game. I hope for a Binary Domain 2 in the near future.
I think making a sequel for this will be hard. It took a full team in the Yakuza Studio about 2+ years to make this game, and it doesn't look like it will be able to sell anything close to even 500k worldwide. Retail awareness for this game is completely -dead- outside of Japan, and even in Japan the game is struggling to sell even 100k.
If I were Sega, no matter how much I enjoy the game I would just make the team work on more Yakuza games instead.
If I were Sega, no matter how much I enjoy the game I would just make the team work on more Yakuza games instead.
Hopefully they can apply what they've learned from a technical standpoint to the next Yakuza game. They've been using the same outdated technology for years and by the fourth game and "Of the End" it was starting to feel pretty awful.
The animation and camera was also very poor in their past games, which is not the case here.
The camera is better here, but I really don't agree about the animations. It definitely still feels super janky, and definitely worse than the animation in an average AAA shooter. The running animation, the animation when you get incapped, even the various talking animations when characters are interacting with you... all very poor. When I was fighting the Spider, a missile hit me while I was behind a low cover, and Dan kinda floated onto the ground with 2/3 of his head clipping into the piece of cover the entire time while waiting for help. It was hilarious... hilariously bad.
Oh, it's not amazing by any means, but it's a large improvement over the Yakuza games. Simply running around in all of those games felt like shit to me as a result of the poor animation and camera placement. The camera was always aimed towards the ground while your character stomped around in a very jerky fashion.
BD features improved animation over that AND uses object motion blur to smooth things over. Those two changes definitely improve the experience. That plus the better camera system.
I don't really feel that it's a large improvement over Yakuza though. The thing is, what makes Binary Domain few a bit "tighter" than Yakuza games in terms of camera and animation is entirely due to the fact that it basically copies the traditional TPS camera/animation format which is tried and true with Gears.
The next Yakuza game is not unlikely to control and look like this, so while it's possible that some areas will be improved if they use a new engine at least, I still think the animations and generally jankiness will still be there, and be much more pronounced because of the type of game Yakuza is.
Didn't have any issues with any of the voice actors, myself.
Callibretto
Member
finally got my copy. Ps3 version, pretty damn cool install screen lol.
I got the asian release, loks like it has dual language, which voice acting is better?
I got the asian release, loks like it has dual language, which voice acting is better?
The install screen is cool. I wish there were parts in the game can would you control that device.
AgentOtaku
Member
Agree. Other than some spotty writing and the fact Big Bo never shuts the hell up, the banter is actually damn good. As I said before, I especially love the VA for Dan. Dude is straight out of a late 80s/early 90s Anime.
Oh I guess another knock is how loud the dialog is in comparison to everything else and you seemingy can't tweek that volume. Like when Dan and Big Bo are sliding in the tutorial level, Big Bo is so damn loud and drowns everything else out. This is compounded by the fact that he's CONSTANTLY talking so it kinda ruined that sequence for me =/
exmachina64
Banned
I felt that the policemen side plot was meant to be a running joke, especially
when you see them when you to the highway leading to Amada
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
I only played the demo of Dead Souls, but the environment graphics and controls were horrendous. It seemed like a really, really low-budget game. Kind of an experiment really. I like the Ryu ga Gotoku series a lot, but that demo put me off from buying Dead Souls.
Splash Wave
Member
Is the IQ absolute garbage like what I played of the Yakuza 3 demo? I remember being blown away by how muddy that game looked. Since I loved Y1 and 2 I should probably just suck it up and play it.
chris121580
Member
Purchase made. Thanks for the heads up
distantmantra
Member
I played through the Japanese version over the summer. Entirely different engine and game-play system. OF THE END doesn't control at all like Binary Domain, it's a hybrid of typical RGG controls with some janky TPS system. It's weird at first, but makes sense after an hour or so.
Yeah, just play it. The image quality is totally shit in ALL Yakuza PS3 titles. Binary Domain is the first game they've released this gen with 720p resolution and realtime cutscenes.