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kunonabi
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(09-13-2017, 10:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by MechaX

Oh snap we got Sequence Breaking in too (ones that the dev team likely knows about)?

That's rad.

Hopefully they're actual sequence breaks and not just planned alternate paths. Its mercury steam so it shouldnt really be a stretch to see legit breaks.
davidwhangchoi
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(09-13-2017, 10:06 PM)
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Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.
preta
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(09-13-2017, 10:07 PM)

Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

lol
The_Darkest_Red
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(09-13-2017, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

I believe the origin is Shadow Complex which is a 2D adaptation of Metro 2033.
nickerous
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(09-13-2017, 10:15 PM)
Just as long as they dont try to remake Super Metroid. That one is perfect as is.

If we cant go forward from Fusion, give me a 2D Prime remake.
nightside
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(09-13-2017, 10:15 PM)

Originally Posted by tesqui

I just want it sell enough for them to consider more 2D Metroid.

2024: super metroid remake for the 30th anniversary.
hawk2025
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(09-13-2017, 10:17 PM)
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Thoroughly impressive -- a Mercury Steam game now has the same MC score as Ori :)

I have to say, I completely underestimated them.
RagnarokX
(09-13-2017, 10:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

Castlevania means "Castle Forest." They stole the idea from Sonic 4's Sylvania Castle Zone.

QisTopTier
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(09-13-2017, 10:22 PM)

Originally Posted by hawk2025

Thoroughly impressive -- a Mercury Steam game now has the same MC score as Ori :)

I have to say, I completely underestimated them.

it should have been obvious they had the talent with lords of shadow they just needed better direction. Which LoS2 most certainly didnt get
Haines
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(09-13-2017, 10:31 PM)
Im going to wait for this to go on a good sale. 3ds is too old of a system. I cant be bothered to play on that screen. Maybe half price.
StarStabbedMoon
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(09-13-2017, 10:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by kunonabi

Hopefully they're actual sequence breaks and not just planned alternate paths. Its mercury steam so it shouldnt really be a stretch to see legit breaks.

I recall there were some complaints about Zero Mission regarding sequence breaks since there were alternate paths very intentionally placed in that allowed you to play the game out of order. This was new to the series, since every other Metroid requires glitches or tricks to do this.

Sequence breaks have to "break" something about the intended flow of play. Anything intentionally included by the dev would be an alternate path.
Opa-Pa
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(09-13-2017, 10:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by RagnarokX

Castlevania means "Castle Forest." They stole the idea from Sonic 4's Sylvania Castle Zone.

This is probably it.
Sub Boss
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(09-13-2017, 10:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

its THE original Metroidvania series, of course its good:)
yrba1
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(09-13-2017, 10:48 PM)
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Glad MercurySteam didn't screw this one up. Hope they continue to improve from here as a dev.
Neff
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(09-13-2017, 10:52 PM)
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Holy god this game's music is incredible.

Originally Posted by yrba1

Glad MercurySteam didn't screw this one up. Hope they continue to improve from here as a dev.

I've been impressed with them since Lords of Shadow, which I think to this day is sadly underrated. They faltered with their subsequent Castlevania projects (although they had their moments), but Samus Returns represents them at their best, in addition to the guiding hand and ludicrously high standards of Nintendo. It really is a solid match.
ridley182
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(09-13-2017, 10:56 PM)
So many memories playing Metroidvania 1. I fondly remember being blown away by Samus Belmont slaying Mother Bracula for the first time.
World SkiFree
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(09-13-2017, 11:11 PM)
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Great to hear all of this positive buzz. Hoping to get this and Hey! Pikmin in the coming months.

In contrast to the current "Why not Switch?" sentiment, I am relatively new to the 3DS realm and loving this high season of gaming goodness.

I am hoping Nintendo has some more 3DS goodness to announce this week.

Edit: Oh wait, possible announcements in the very near future ... Didn't realize Direct was arriving so soon.
DecoReturns
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(09-13-2017, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by ridley182

So many memories playing Metroidvania 1. I fondly remember being blown away by Samus Belmont slaying Mother Bracula for the first time.

Those Betroids sure were annoying. Dropped the game to play Legend of Belda instead.
hikarutilmitt
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(09-13-2017, 11:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triforce141

There's no dpad control, which honestly worries me a bit since using a control stick / nub is never good for 2D games

ffffffffffff

Dammit. I think I'm gonna have to skip this. It's a shame they don't make demos for this kind of game, usually, because it would help make my decision. if it's nub only control I'm out pretty hard.
RagnarokX
(09-13-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by ridley182

So many memories playing Metroidvania 1. I fondly remember being blown away by Samus Belmont slaying Mother Bracula for the first time.

Actually that was a mistranslation. It was supposed to be Mother Blacula, a callback to the original vampire. It was originally meant to be an unlicensed prequel to the classic film, but went its own way when Orion threatened to sue.
Synless
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(09-13-2017, 11:25 PM)
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No d-pad control fucking sucks to hear.
Klappdrachen
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(09-13-2017, 11:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Triforce141

There's no dpad control, which honestly worries me a bit since using a control stick / nub is never good for 2D games

This was made from the ground up with the 3DS and its control stick in mind. I'm sure movement itself will be fine.
Ashby
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(09-13-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Synless

No d-pad control fucking sucks to hear.

Tell me about it. My Circle Pad sticks and I have to constantly pull it upward to get it to glide smoothly again. I'm hoping some WD-40 will save my ass because Metroid may be my favorite series but I'm not buying a whole new 3DS to play this damn game.
kunonabi
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(09-13-2017, 11:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Synless

No d-pad control fucking sucks to hear.

Nintendo has apparently decided dpads are obsolete so might as well get used it now. Im sure SR will be fine though.
JoeInky
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(09-13-2017, 11:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Klappdrachen

This was made from the ground up with the 3DS and its control stick in mind. I'm sure movement itself will be fine.

Eh, it's ok, not great.

Going into morphball mode always felt bad with a stick to me, double tapping down on a dpad just feels more natural than doing that motion with the slidepad.
KooopaKid
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(09-13-2017, 11:31 PM)
17/20 from Jeuxvideo.com (French)

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/test/711270...res-annees.htm
Klappdrachen
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(09-13-2017, 11:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by JoeInky

Eh, it's ok, not great.

Going into morphball mode always felt bad with a stick to me, double tapping down on a dpad just feels more natural than doing that motion with the slidepad.

Now that you mentioned it, going into Morph Ball mode does sound awkward. Is the D-Pad used for something else?
JoeInky
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(09-13-2017, 11:34 PM)

Originally Posted by Klappdrachen

Now that you mentioned it, going into Morph Ball mode does sound awkward. Is the D-Pad used for something else?

It's used for selecting your aeon abilities.
oon
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(09-13-2017, 11:34 PM)

Originally Posted by hikarutilmitt

ffffffffffff

Dammit. I think I'm gonna have to skip this. It's a shame they don't make demos for this kind of game, usually, because it would help make my decision. if it's nub only control I'm out pretty hard.

The game is designed for 360-degree aiming, d-pad wouldn't work for that.

Atrarock
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(09-13-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Klappdrachen

Now that you mentioned it, going into Morph Ball mode does sound awkward. Is the D-Pad used for something else?

You can also quickly tap the touch screen to go into morph ball mode instantly. Considering your thumb is mere centimeters away from buttons to touch screen, it should work out fine in that regard.
tanooki27
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(09-13-2017, 11:42 PM)
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saw this out in Best Buy yesterday but they wouldn't let me buy it :/
hikarutilmitt
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(09-13-2017, 11:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ashby

Tell me about it. My Circle Pad sticks and I have to constantly pull it upward to get it to glide smoothly again. I'm hoping some WD-40 will save my ass because Metroid may be my favorite series but I'm not buying a whole new 3DS to play this damn game.

Don't you dare actually use WD-40! Use some vaseline (I'm not kidding) or a silicon lubricant.

Originally Posted by oon

The game is designed for 360-degree aiming, d-pad wouldn't work for that.

That's what I was afraid of when I saw the 360 aiming. That or they'd do something even more horrific and use the touchscreen.

Either way, I just can't. I'd be fine with not having 360 aiming if it means I can use the dpad. I'd make it work. Like, if you can use the dpad to move normally but then when you hold L and do 360 aiming with the nub, that would be fine.
drangleic tourism
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(09-13-2017, 11:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by oon

The game is designed for 360-degree aiming, d-pad wouldn't work for that.

The 360 degree aiming is one of the things I'm looking forward to most, actually. Looks really slick in the gameplay vids. From most who have played it, it doesn't sound like the controls are a problem at all.
Sub Boss
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(09-13-2017, 11:45 PM)
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i always felt MercurySteam had the potential to be better than Ninja Theory talented fellas if only they had better managment
LeonSPBR
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(09-13-2017, 11:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haines

Im going to wait for this to go on a good sale. 3ds is too old of a system. I cant be bothered to play on that screen. Maybe half price.

So you'll never going to play then.
Opa-Pa
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(09-13-2017, 11:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haines

Im going to wait for this to go on a good sale. 3ds is too old of a system. I cant be bothered to play on that screen. Maybe half price.

Good luck with that.
Szadek
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(09-14-2017, 12:11 AM)
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Nice nice, but because of the stupid amibo, the game isn't very high on my priority list.
Maybe I buy it in a few months, unless I stop caring until then like I did with RE7.
Crispy
(09-14-2017, 12:20 AM)
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Been playing for a few hours now. I like the game a lot, but wish there was a way to customize the controls. Aiming while keeping the L-button pushed feels awkward. I'd really like to map aiming to the R button, which would feel much more natural to me.
hikarutilmitt
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(09-14-2017, 12:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Crispy

Been playing for a few hours now. I like the game a lot, but wish there was a way to customize the controls. Aiming while keeping the L-button pushed feels awkward. I'd really like to map aiming to the R button, which would feel much more natural to me.

What is R mapped to by default? Not customizing the controls already sounds bad on top of a bad time.
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(09-14-2017, 12:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by hikarutilmitt

What is R mapped to by default? Not customizing the controls already sounds bad on top of a bad time.

R lets you shoot missiles while pressed.
Honorio
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(09-14-2017, 02:52 AM)
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i think i will ahve to wait one week or two before playing the game. PANIC
Neff
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(09-14-2017, 03:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by drangleic tourism

The 360 degree aiming is one of the things I'm looking forward to most, actually.

It's the best thing to happen to 2D Metroid since Shinesparking.

The controls are uniformly excellent. Responsive and satisfying.
Feffe
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(09-14-2017, 03:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

Some souls full of dark thoughts often think about that. If you can't find peace, I suggest listening to a symphony in the night or ammiring the nature and its story, like in a cave or a wood.

Anyway, you might appreciate the third one, it's a super game.
Sparrowhawk
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(09-14-2017, 03:23 AM)
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Can't wait to finally play this. I haven't touched my 3DS in at least a year, but it's still somehow at like 75% battery, wtf.
BizzyBum
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(09-14-2017, 03:34 AM)
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I pretty much gave my brother my New 3DS XL but I just purchased a refurbished regular New 3DS from the Nintendo Store and have this pre-ordered on Amazon!
D.Lo
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(09-14-2017, 04:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

Koji Igarashi invented it, he has said so in many interviews. I know it's confusing because he later removed all the original Metroid games from the timeline along with all the Castlevania games he could get away with, meaning that he now invented Metroid And Castlevania as well. Zero Mission was a complete ripoff of his GBA Masterpiece Harmony of Dissonance.
Jugendstil
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(09-14-2017, 05:36 AM)
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Got my shipping notice from Best Buy today, so I should have my copy tomorrow! This the third preorder Best Buy has shipped early for me this year, I feel really lucky.
CHC
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(09-14-2017, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by davidwhangchoi

Is this a good game? It looks like an axiom verge or another metrovania clone.

Does anyone know which game started metrovania genre? It's probably a city game bc of the history of where they came from.... metro + vania = urban environment trapped in a maze like castle. I know there's 1st person clones too but they're prime fake.

I'd rather play a game that is not a fusion of genres and my mission is zero tolerance towards clones. I want to play the original series remade that's more like a sequel.

Super Meteoroid Prime was the first one
kadotsu
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(09-14-2017, 11:02 AM)
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Got the game just now. Apart from not being able to chain wall jumps on a single wall SM style the controls are perfect. On par or better than Fusion/Zero Mission.
Pila
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(09-14-2017, 11:11 AM)
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My copy just arrived. Fuck being at work :( gonna play this thing tonight.

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