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EvB
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(12-01-2016, 11:48 AM)
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Originally Posted by dark10x

The E6 is better, though. If not for the insane European prices, I would have had one (though I know someone who did find a killer deal on it so it IS possible to overcome)

The B6 and E6 have the same exact picture but the E6 offers more options such as 3D, which isn't bad to have.

Is the difference that significant? The prices look about the same to me
AbandonedTrolley
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(12-01-2016, 11:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by EvB

Is the difference that significant? The prices look about the same to me

65" B6 (2969) here in the UK is 1100 cheaper than an E6 (4099)

The 55" have about a 500 difference.

E6 has the integrated soundbar I believe.
EvB
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(12-01-2016, 12:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by AbandonedTrolley

65" B6 (2969) here in the UK is 1100 cheaper than an E6 (4099)

The 55" have about a 500 difference.

E6 has the integrated soundbar I believe.

Ah, I don't think he was complaint about the difference in price between the models, but the price of an E6 in the US and the EU
Merovin
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(12-01-2016, 12:18 PM)
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I think I'm a lost cause if I have a 55EF9500? Believe it's a 2015 model, had a browse online and can't find any details relating to a firmware update.
AbandonedTrolley
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(12-01-2016, 12:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by EvB

Ah, I don't think he was complaint about the difference in price between the models, but the price of an E6 in the US and the EU

65 E6 - In the US is $4000/3162 compared to UK pricing of 4099/$5184

Still a fair chunk higher but obviously here in the UK 20% VAT

Originally Posted by Merovin

I think I'm a lost cause if I have a 55EF9500? Believe it's a 2015 model, had a browse online and can't find any details relating to a firmware update.

If it runs WebOS then based on my calls to LG then they are looking in to updating all WebOS firmwares to fix the issue, I've a 850V here in the UK which was a 2015 set too.
Yappadappadu
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(12-01-2016, 12:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by IKizzLE

Same input lag as in SDR mode? LG, you did well!

Originally Posted by Merovin

I think I'm a lost cause if I have a 55EF9500? Believe it's a 2015 model, had a browse online and can't find any details relating to a firmware update.

Maybe LG will improve the input lag in the general HDR mode, but since the 2015 sets don't have different HDR picture modes, a special HDR game mode is very unlikely.
GinoFelino
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(12-01-2016, 12:30 PM)
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I wonder if input lag still cycles though
Merovin
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(12-01-2016, 12:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by AbandonedTrolley

If it runs WebOS then based on my calls to LG then they are looking in to updating all WebOS firmwares to fix the issue, I've a 850V here in the UK which was a 2015 set too.

Brilliant, hopefully this is something they'll be updating soon then! I really don't want to end up regretting my purchase and it's too soon to be looking for another new TV.
TheGuardian
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(12-01-2016, 12:40 PM)
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My E6 arrives on Saturday, so I hope this update reaches the UK quick. Can't wait to see FF15 and Ratchet in HDR :)
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 12:52 PM)
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Oh man, I was back and forth between the C6 and B6. Had I known I would have gone with the C6. Oh well, hope we get an update for the B6 soon. They released a new firmware 2 days ago but it only addressed the PS4 HDCP problem not input lag
the_batman
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(12-01-2016, 12:53 PM)
props to LG for trying to fix these issues.

once they do, their OLED tvs will be god-like
Adam M
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(12-01-2016, 12:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by IKizzLE


Just read the the hdtvtest post, so good that LG delivered again :)

If you want chroma 4:4:4 then LG OLED is the most responsive TV

Here's the full size pic btw
KillGore
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(12-01-2016, 01:11 PM)
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That's 1080p though, right?
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 01:13 PM)
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If anyone gets any word on the B6 HDR game mode please post. I'll call later today and see what I can find out.
Backfoggen
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(12-01-2016, 01:18 PM)
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I don't think input lag has differed between 1080p and 4K for any of the TVs you'd want to buy.
Edit: Ok, there seem to be some.
julrik
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(12-01-2016, 01:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by AbandonedTrolley

65" B6 (2969) here in the UK is 1100 cheaper than an E6 (4099)

The 55" have about a 500 difference.

E6 has the integrated soundbar I believe.

Yeah, the E6 has the soundbar.

I paid 19990 NOK (Norway) = ~1875 for my 55" E6.
airjoca
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(12-01-2016, 01:50 PM)
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Besides the soundbar and 3D, the E6 also has a very slight edge on image processing and brightness compared to the B6, but it's negligible.
JDM
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(12-01-2016, 01:53 PM)
Is there any idea on when this will be available in the UK?
datamage
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(12-01-2016, 03:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

I wonder if input lag still cycles though

The input lag on the C6/E6 doesn't cycle.
GinoFelino
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(12-01-2016, 03:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by datamage

The input lag on the C6/E6 doesn't cycle.

Oh, that's just the B6? Well shit. That means the E6/C6 are officially on my shopping list now :)
mrklaw
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(12-01-2016, 03:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Oh, that's just the B6? Well shit. That means the E6/C6 are officially on my shopping list now :)

Well we haven't seen the update on the b6 yet.. prior to this the b6 had less input lag than the c6/e6
GinoFelino
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(12-01-2016, 04:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

Well we haven't seen the update on the b6 yet.. prior to this the b6 had less input lag than the c6/e6

But that cycled, and it had much higher lag on non-HDR non-4K content..
hitgirl
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(12-01-2016, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by KillGore

That's 1080p though, right?

Correct, which is a big question for myself.
guitarguy316
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(12-01-2016, 04:24 PM)
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The C/E/G models have always had better input lag than the B series due to the better soc processor on board. I would hope they improve the B but it will likely not match the other series. Sdr gaming on the B was already 10ms higher than the C/E/G in sdr gaming.
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(12-01-2016, 04:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

Well we haven't seen the update on the b6 yet.. prior to this the b6 had less input lag than the c6/e6

Only in HDR. B6 has higher lag in SDR. And the cycles meant the lag wasn't consistent on B6 in HDR either.
f@luS
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(12-01-2016, 04:55 PM)
where is my EU firmware??

im still with my C6 with no hdr game ,and no fix for pS4 pro hdcp :(
KillGore
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(12-01-2016, 04:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by hitgirl

Correct, which is a big question for myself.

I didnt even know there was 1080p HDR content lol always thought it was exclusive for 4K
Chris_Rivera
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(12-01-2016, 05:10 PM)
Great work. Man, I hope the 2017 sets will improve on this also. Thats what I'll keep telling myself.

My ec9300 has served me well with its input lag in the 20's, but I can't just miss out on all the hdr madness can I?
Adam M
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(12-01-2016, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Oh, that's just the B6? Well shit. That means the E6/C6 are officially on my shopping list now :)


If you don't mind the very subtle curve (it's less aggressive curve than on Samsung and others) then pick the C6, much cheaper than the E6 and the image quality is the same because of the same SoC

Check out Rtings' picture, looks almost flat
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 06:17 PM)
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User posted on AVS forum:



Take that however you want in terms of believing LG CS folks, but there you go.
shadow2810
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(12-01-2016, 06:25 PM)
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LG CSs are full of BS though.
I asked them about the C6 model in Canada and they said LG would release the model in October, then November, then this year for sure. LOL. I gave up and imported one.
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 06:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by shadow2810

LG CSs are full of BS though.
I asked them about the C6 model in Canada and they said LG would release the model in October, then November, then this year for sure. LOL. I gave up and imported one.

I'll reiterate the statement I made at the bottom of the post:

Take that however you want in terms of believing LG CS folks, but there you go.

I would prefer to post some level of statement from their group than sit here in radio silence for the B6 owners wondering what's going on.
GinoFelino
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(12-01-2016, 06:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Adam M

If you don't mind the very subtle curve (it's less aggressive curve than on Samsung and others) then pick the C6, much cheaper than the E6 and the image quality is the same because of the same SoC

Check out Rtings' picture, looks almost flat

Oh definitely. Have had my eye on both for a long time now. However, I live in the EU, where the C6 is almost as expensive as the E6 :/
Adam M
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(12-01-2016, 06:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Futurevoid

User posted on AVS forum:



Take that however you want in terms of believing LG CS folks, but there you go.

Censorship fail haha

I guess LG can't stabilize the input lag that's why the delay

Originally Posted by GinoFelino

Oh definitely. Have had my eye on both for a long time now. However, I live in the EU, where the C6 is almost as expensive as the E6 :/

I know the feel, I'm european as well and the 55C6 is closer to the B6 in terms of price but the 65 version is almost as expensive as the 65E6, both 65 version are like more than 60% more expensive which is absurd for extra 10 inches, I rather sit closer a bit... But what pissing me off that 65C6 is 20% more here than other EU countries like while the 55 inch version is the same as everywhere.
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 06:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Futurevoid

User posted on AVS forum:



Take that however you want in terms of believing LG CS folks, but there you go.

Thanks for posting this here. I hope this is true. Its the only thing that holds my B6 back from me being 100% happy with it. Other than this one thing is so phenomenal.
n0razi
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(12-01-2016, 06:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Futurevoid

User posted on AVS forum:



Take that however you want in terms of believing LG CS folks, but there you go.

Yeah.... a Tier 1 service rep is not gonna know anything factual
mrklaw
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(12-01-2016, 06:35 PM)
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It's been a few hours since the C6 firmware released, and the B6 is a different chipset to the others. So while I'm sure everyone is keen to see improvements, it's a bit soon to be getting too worried
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 06:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by mrklaw

It's been a few hours since the C6 firmware released, and the B6 is a different chipset to the others. So while I'm sure everyone is keen to see improvements, it's a bit soon to be getting too worried

Correct. I and others have mentioned this several times in this thread. B6 owners need to take a deep breath and be patient. The set has been on its own firmware path because of the varying chipset from the get-go.
Zefah
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(12-01-2016, 07:05 PM)
I have a B6 55" and was prompted to update my TV just the other day. I haven't been home much the last couple of days to check what it did, but was that completely separate?
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by n0razi

Yeah.... a Tier 1 service rep is not gonna know anything factual

While I do agree with you, the reps generally seem unaware or unsure of things but when I asked (i was on the chat as well) the guy said it with such certainty that I kind of had to guess that he knew what he was talking about. I even said, will ALL 2016 OLED models be getting the update for HDR gaming, or just some, and he said all without hesitation and that it should be releasing in December.
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(12-01-2016, 07:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zefah

I have a B6 55" and was prompted to update my TV just the other day. I haven't been home much the last couple of days to check what it did, but was that completely separate?

That was to address HDCP issues with the Pro. They certainly seem to be listening to gamers as of late as they should be.
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 07:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zefah

I have a B6 55" and was prompted to update my TV just the other day. I haven't been home much the last couple of days to check what it did, but was that completely separate?

Originally Posted by dark10x

That was to address HDCP issues with the Pro. They certainly seem to be listening to gamers as of late as they should be.

I have the same model. What was the version number of the update? I'm still running 4.30.40 on mine (in the US) and have not been prompted and nor does an update get pushed when I try to update manually from the set. The site lists the same version as well for download.

Did I miss something?
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 07:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Futurevoid

I have the same model. What was the version number of the update? I'm still running 4.30.40 on mine (in the US) and have not been prompted and nor does an update get pushed when I try to update manually from the set. The site lists the same version as well for download.

Did I miss something?

they roll out in waves. different regions get them at different times. Usually with a week or so of the first areas having the update everyone will get it. The new one is 04.30.65. Keep an eye out for it.
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 07:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by b0bbyJ03

they roll out in waves. different regions get them at different times. Usually with a week or so of the first areas having the update everyone will get it. The new one is 04.30.65. Keep an eye out for it.

Yeah, I know. They usually put the new version up on the site for download pretty quickly. Strange they haven't done that this time. I'm fine with manually updating. Hell, I got .40 on there manually.:)

Thanks for the heads up on the version number though.
noomi
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(12-01-2016, 07:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by Haines

This gives me hope for when I get an oled a year from now.

Hah! Wattup haines! Looks like you and I both think alike, planning on an OLED set next year as well. This will be the main living room tv, and then KS8000 will then move to the media room :p
Zefah
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(12-01-2016, 07:48 PM)

Originally Posted by dark10x

That was to address HDCP issues with the Pro. They certainly seem to be listening to gamers as of late as they should be.

Oh good! So I can turn HDCP 2.2 back on? I'll try that later.
Vegetable Lasagna
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(12-01-2016, 07:59 PM)
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Glad to see they are taking this seriously. Hopefully a B6 fix is on the way so I can take my set out of the box. If not I'll just return it and pick up one of the 2017 models next year for too much money.
b0bbyJ03
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(12-01-2016, 08:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Futurevoid

Yeah, I know. They usually put the new version up on the site for download pretty quickly. Strange they haven't done that this time. I'm fine with manually updating. Hell, I got .40 on there manually.:)

Thanks for the heads up on the version number though.

For the last update I had to do it manually as well. It took them forever to update on the site but the weird thing is that when I did a google search I would still get the older firmware so I actually got a link from a forum member to the 4.30.40 firmware. I was confused cause the link he shared had that version but the google search gave me the prior version.
Futurevoid
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(12-01-2016, 08:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by b0bbyJ03

For the last update I had to do it manually as well. It took them forever to update on the site but the weird thing is that when I did a google search I would still get the older firmware so I actually got a link from a forum member to the 4.30.40 firmware. I was confused cause the link he shared had that version but the google search gave me the prior version.

Well if you get a direct link to .65 - don't be shy.:D
Chris_Rivera
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(12-01-2016, 08:19 PM)
Anyone have experience with Destiny on the C6 or E6? Curious if the upscaling looks horrible or crisp at all with that title.

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