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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT| Mount Breeding Simulator
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Something really weird happened to me. I got this 302 arena defense win, which would translate to 604 had a bonus unit been present (I switched out my bonus unit which is Alfonse once I got my first defense). I think my defense wins have always been in the 572 ~ 584 range; where does this 604 even come from? lol
This guy has a +10 Reinhardt; he had to be choosing Beginner to meet my lackluster def team. OK, so maybe he had a bad match up and lost a unit, but somehow he rage continued the battle, and pick me at Beginner in the next battle to end the bad streak instead. But QR2 for Reinhardt? Maybe he's working toward QR3 purely for its 240SP? But wouldn't something like Escape Route be more economical in that case?
This guy has a +10 Reinhardt; he had to be choosing Beginner to meet my lackluster def team. OK, so maybe he had a bad match up and lost a unit, but somehow he rage continued the battle, and pick me at Beginner in the next battle to end the bad streak instead. But QR2 for Reinhardt? Maybe he's working toward QR3 purely for its 240SP? But wouldn't something like Escape Route be more economical in that case?
I have Hector with Panic Ploy and the lack of movement really hurts him. I thought Ploys would trigger until the next action of your foe but it only lasts until the end of your turn, making the timing really marginal. You can't bait Rein with Hector unless you want him to take 30+ damage. So the only thing you can do is hope he comes into your line or rush him with your own cavalry which is suicidal.Panic Ploy on someone - Hector or Nowi. PP Hector + TA MRobin would be solid counters for any configuration of Reinhardt or CYL Lyn. Even if Lyn runs CA, Hector would then be able to use Distant Counter. If she's Firesweep + CA then ¯_(ツ_/¯
I would save Panic Ploy for a more mobile unit.
If you have a blade mage horse, you want 2 hone and 2 fortify since they maximixe the damage. You can't stack them so if you're lazy about formations you can subsitute them for goad/ward which are stackable. If you use 2 hone/fortify the best formation is:
FF
HH F: Fortify H: Hone
Everyone receives both buffs in that case.
If you can't the next best thing is:
FHHF or
FFHH
Then the middle two will get both buffs.
Just don't put them in a triangle. Then only the one in the middle gets both buffs.
Linkstrikesback
Member
Wrong way round. To get everyone all the buffs you want
FF
HH
Or some rotation of that.
That's not a bad Celica at all imo. The benefit of +Spd for a mid speed unit outweighs the drawback of -Atk. And Ragnarok is one of the best standalone tome which helps to ease the Atk bane too.
And as for Ninian, stats generally don't matter much for dancers because they are not meant to fight, especially for Ninian (for Olivia and Azura, you at least have TA or gem weapon to make them capable in some fights). But between those two, the non speed bane one is the obvious choice, because you want survivability just in case you really need her to take a hit.
And as for Ninian, stats generally don't matter much for dancers because they are not meant to fight, especially for Ninian (for Olivia and Azura, you at least have TA or gem weapon to make them capable in some fights). But between those two, the non speed bane one is the obvious choice, because you want survivability just in case you really need her to take a hit.
Oh yeah oops. Sorry
I'm really considering 20k feathers to put Panic Ploy on someone - Hector or Nowi. PP Hector + TA MRobin would be solid counters for any configuration of Reinhardt or CYL Lyn. Even if Lyn runs CA, Hector would then be able to use Distant Counter. If she's Firesweep + CA then ¯\_(ツ
Nowi is +SPD with Fury 3, with Hone Speed she is equal speed to a neutral speed CYL Lyn (would have to worry about a +SPD one with swift sparrow, but she'd probably survive that too). She isn't as good of a counter for Lyn specifically, but she's worth more points than Robin and is a lot more versatile. She fits into any team really.
Not in a rush to do anything yet...I think for the weeks that Lyn is a bonus unit I'll probably just use my own.
I've put Panic Ploy on Hector and it's been working great for turn 1 baiting, you need to have Repositions to really make the best use of it.
Nowi is a very shaky Lyn check at best, and I expect there to be Firesweep variants as well.
The Blade mages need Hone and/or Fortify so I put Goad on them since they benefit the least from it. You could also just run two Hones, a Fortify and a Goad - it's a rather common composition.
Ward is for very specialized teams like Owl tome memes or if you want Xander/Camus/Leo to be extra bulky.
Thanks. Is it ok to merge the one that's level 40 into the level 1 in order to get the + stats, or should I level her to 40 first then merge the first one into her?
It's funny, never had a 5* red mage and promoted a +Spd -Res Tharja the other day to compensate, then my next 5* is a red mage.
You might want to hold off on merging Ninians since Fortify Dragons is inevitably going to be a very valuable inherit if it isn't already.
I literally thought of this just as I sat down for lunch, lol. I blame Roman's CA fearmongering.
I have a 5* Merric, but his attack stat is probably too pathetic and mine's -def +res. I of course have Cecilia but she's too busy murdering most of the game with her blade tome.
It depends on the amount the SI you planned for her. If you planned to replace lots of skills of hers, which require lots of SP, then it makes sense to level up the source copy just enough to get her the SP to learn some of the skills you want, then merge her into you target copy so that your target copy doesn't need to spend SP to learn them.
Edit: misunderstood your question. I thought both of your Ninians are new at lv1.
Ninian is one of the units that is more difficult to train as she hits like a wet noodle; this is the perfect time to use crystals.
And like Roman said, you want to be mindful of Fortify Dragon. Although since there are no "Blade" dragon stones (yet?), maybe Goad/Ward Dragons would have been more useful for dragons than Fortify, but who knows when those will come. lol
Pejo
Member
Thanks guys, that clears it up for me. I will have a Blade tome user on backup (Ursula) and she won't be on my main team, so it looks like I can skip the defensive buffs for now. Who'd have thought I would actually be hoping to get a few Gunters. When I think about how many I sent home before inheritance, it makes me sick.
That's a good point actually, I already have my Arena Defense team set as Nowi/TikiY/Fae/Ninian for fun.
With that defense? TA sure; Raven probably not.
When my SCamilla with Gronnraven+/TA3 takes on an Archer, I have one of two reactions:
1) I can't believe a flyer is tanking Archer hits!
2) Aw CRAP, I didn't check for Cancel Affinity 3!
My next promote might be FRobin, but she'd need a raven+ tome, so that's 40K feathers. Bleah.
1) I can't believe a flyer is tanking Archer hits!
2) Aw CRAP, I didn't check for Cancel Affinity 3!
My next promote might be FRobin, but she'd need a raven+ tome, so that's 40K feathers. Bleah.
I was just putzing around with the calculator and a 4* FRobin with a Gronnraven (not +) and TA2 with Bonfire +QR2 handles a typical arena Reinhardt and stock CYL Lyn pretty damn well. With a defense/res fortify or spur it'd be pretty safe. I'll probably throw one of those together when I get home, I think I already have the raw materials. Obviously not someone I'd bring along to 'real' arena but AA is a different beast.
For Lyn, yes.
Mine destroys Bride Cordelias without CA.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
ive got a raven TA +atk -def cecilia imma try and throw at lyn and bridelia. I'll see how it goes
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Depending on how my trip into green goes I have a 4* Soren +Spd I may promote. I would greatly prefer a better natured Nino.
Auron_Kale
Member
I've been considering turning my FRobin into a Raven user but considering she is basically who I use to take care of mounted Blue Tomes with Wolf, not sure if I want to go that route despite sitting on a ton of SP. Then again, my default Boey is also handy to have while I also have both a 5* and 4* Soren.
My MRobin is my default Raven user but of course, he's quite limited as to what he can do.
Red_taiyaki
Member
I've seen my buffed Cecilia do up to 120 total damage+ after consecutive strikes. It's a beautiful thing
.Can't wait to see what kind of output I can get with archer Lyn!
She's not a blade tome though, so she's inherently limited.I've seen my buffed Cecilia do up to 120 total damage+ after consecutive strikes. It's a beautiful thing
Can't wait to see what kind of output I can get with archer Lyn!
SenorArdilla
Member
Pulled +Spd/-Atk Summer Corrin and neutral Summer Elise.
And sure enough, the Bane/Boon dream has been shot down. For now at least.
And sure enough, the Bane/Boon dream has been shot down. For now at least.
Colorless hell fix would be nice. Maybe separate healer orbs from dagger/bow user orbs or something.Sölf;247409153 said:
Trying to pull for an offensive character and getting a healer just blows ass, and it doesn't happen for any other color in the game. It doesn't help that dagger and bow users in the game are generally pretty bad, aside from a few key units.
theprodigy
Member
Sölf;247409153 said:
*20% of the "most passionate players" (does this mean whales? tier 20?)
Sölf;247409153 said:
I wonder if Sacred Coins will let us pull for skills or weapons for old characters and stuff like that? Like, pulling "Virion's Bow" that is stronger than his regular bow.
I don't agree that healers are as bad as people say. Sure, for Arena they're kind of a waste but they can be pretty useful on Tempest and PvE in general. I wouldn't mind if they buffed them somehow though haha. What annoys me the most about healers really is that they are terrible SI fodder generally.
EDIT: I'm glad they said Xander and Camus will be back as GHB too.
Well...they didn't say they wouldn't give us an option to change boon/banes. I would be more worried if they had said flat out "no, this makes us too much money". I'd be completely fine if it was random, reset them to level 1, and cost tons of badges+feathers+coins or whatever. It's the only thing that would make sense as a massive badge sink.
did you miss the memo that they're giving away free characters tomorrow that negate them? And they've been absolutely infesting GHBs with panic ploy ever since Legion. Blade horses/fliers were much more ridiculous before IS' increasingly drastic attempts at nerfing them. And they're still crazy good.
Of course they're going to nerf blade tomes now
did you miss the memo that they're giving away free characters tomorrow that negate them? And they've been absolutely infesting GHBs with panic ploy ever since Legion. Blade horses/fliers were much more ridiculous before IS' increasingly drastic attempts at nerfing them. And they're still crazy good.
But of course with their GHB/BHB stats, right?
tier 18 - 20 I bet.
That number lines up with my own experiences. Considering the BST penalty, cavalry units aren't that appealing for Arena.
Wyndstryker
Member
Colorless hell fix by putting laguz as melee colorless. It becomes a new kind of hell lol.
SenorArdilla
Member
And just enough speed to not get doubled by anyone after horse buffs.
Roy gets to sneak out without a penalty thanks to his dad's sword.