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Orayn · May 1, 2014

For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.
Not a wearable.
Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.
...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.
Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.
Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

The information we have doesn't paint a cohesive picture of anything. Nintendo is basically teasing us with The King in Yellow and we're all gonna lose our minds just from trying to figure out what any of this could possibly mean.

AzaK · May 1, 2014

digoutyoursoul said:
Whatever it is we will all probably react like

More like this

Orayn said:
For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.

Not a wearable.

Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.

...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.

Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic things.

Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

The information we have doesn't paint a cohesive picture of anything. Nintendo is basically teasing us with The King in Yellow and we're all gonna lose our minds just from trying to figure out what any of this could possibly mean.

It could be something that's primarily a software platform with some sort of device attached to a Desktop/Console. At any time you walk up to it, it scans/reads/mind probes you and gives you a health check. It could very well be the vitality sensor upgraded, combined with a software platform to track it all across many devices.

SerodD · May 1, 2014

ArchedThunder said:
I could have been a dick by saying shit about you that isn't true like you are doing, but I'd rather just post a Reggie gif and be done with it.

I'm sorry I had to, you made it extremely easy

.

Deciding on a diferente architecture isn't the problem with the Wii U, underpowered hardware and BS Nintendo decisions on what to focus for a console should be is.

dcx4610 · May 1, 2014

It's happening.

ArchedThunder · May 1, 2014

blu said:
Actually I've been curious about your definition of 'home electronics' since the first time you used it. Now I know. Not that I agree with it, but at least now we have some common ground. So a 'modern desktop' / 'modern laptop' is what you've been referring to. Just to make it clear, you're not referring specifically to Windows PCs, are you?

Not specifically, no. Windows, Linux, Mac.

blu said:
Which begs the question, are game consoles computers? If yes - why (and why the heck a toaster wouldn't be one)? If no - why not.

Yes, they are computers. They are made up of the same parts of computers and do a lot of the same jobs as computers even though they are more focused on games than anything else. The same could be said for mobile devices(as far as doing the same things and being made of similar stuff), but consoles are much more closely related to PCs, even if that line is blurred everyday.

Rajack · May 1, 2014

Ataru said:
Depends on what you mean by revitalize. Nintendo has time (and games) to make the console profitable. Mario Kart will almost certainly increase sales (though I think the bundle is $30 too high).

But it's obvious it will be a distant third to PS4 and Xbox one.

Some people like to pretend Nintendo won't ever make money on the Wii U

Coolwhip · May 1, 2014

3DS revision or new 1 screen handheld.

ironcreed · May 1, 2014

SummitAve said:
I'd like a new gamepad that bridges the gap between 3ds and wii u. Or a 3ds that can be used as a gamepad.

That might be what it ends up being. They have talked about unified hardware before, saying that the systems would be like 'brothers.'

topplehat · May 1, 2014

New 3DS model? 2DS XL?

maquiladora · May 1, 2014

Nibel said:
- QoL
- 3DS revision

These are your options GAF

QOL

vagabondarts · May 1, 2014

Orayn said:
For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.

Not a wearable.

Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.

...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.

Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.

Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

The information we have doesn't paint a cohesive picture of anything. Nintendo is basically teasing us with The King in Yellow and we're all gonna lose our minds just from trying to figure out what any of this could possibly mean.

My guess is it's all cloud based like Playstation Now but with health services as well, accessible from any device but optimized for a specific Nintendo device (gamepad 2.0)

ShogunDarius · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

that would be a historical moment

saturnine · May 1, 2014

I wonder, could Nintendo release a revision of the Wii U dropping the backward compatibility ? How much would that shave off the retail price ?

Steve Youngblood · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

What's the point? PS4 owners are already enjoying Knack.

matty2Dfraud · May 1, 2014

Hardware announcement... They're making games for other manufacturer's hardware. Nintendo is announcing they're becoming a 3rd party at E3.

ArchedThunder · May 1, 2014

SerodD said:
I'm sorry I had to, you made it extremely easy .

Deciding on a diferente architecture isn't the problem with the Wii U, underpowered hardware and BS Nintendo decisions on what to focus for a console should be is.

I know, Nintendo understands how PowerPC works, even if it is harder to work with and they could get more out of x86, at least in the short term. Considering how hard it was for them to move on to HD development I think it's best that Nintendo sticks with PowerPC for now, they just need to get some better tools and documentation for third parties.
Sticking with PowerPC will also make it much easier to bring over a lot of the work they've done on Wii U such as engines and emulators for the VC.

Empyrean Heaven · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j1xzezy8k4

daveo42 · May 1, 2014

My money is on either QoL or a more powerful handheld with the latter coming out in 2015.

KyotoMecca · May 1, 2014

Thanks for the responses guys I might give Wii U a try then. Off to Amazon to make my game list.

But can I play the must have Wii games (eg SMG1, DKCR) with Wii U gamepad and no wiimote?

ironcreed · May 1, 2014

Steve Youngblood said:
What's the point? PS4 owners are already enjoying Knack.

LOL.

Mihael Mello Keehl · May 1, 2014

Ataru said:
Depends on what you mean by revitalize. Nintendo has time (and games) to make the console profitable. Mario Kart will almost certainly increase sales (though I think the bundle is $30 too high).

But it's obvious it will be a distant third to PS4 and Xbox one.

Yea it depends, yet some act like they know the future but dont know jack. Nintendo will def make it profitable at some point

Trago · May 1, 2014

I think it's a Wii U hardware revision.

- Slimmer game pad
- Built in hard drive.
- Ethernet Port
- $250 bundled with a game

And before you guys talk about the unsold Wii U's already in stock, they'll implement a new ambassadors program for current Wii U owners up until the release of the revision giving non owners a reason to pick the old system up.

Mr. RHC · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

lmao, Day "It's A Meeeee" 1.

Orayn · May 1, 2014

KyotoMecca said:
Thanks for the responses guys I might give Wii U a try then. Off to Amazon to make my game list.

But can I play the must have Wii games (eg SMG1, DKCR) with Wii U gamepad and no wiimote?

You still need a Wii Remote, though you can use the GamePad as a screen. Wii has the same kind of backwards compatibility as the 3DS, where it literally becomes the older system with minimal to no access to any Wii U features.

Albo · May 1, 2014

Steve Youngblood said:
What's the point? PS4 owners are already enjoying Knack.

Knack is even a bigger system seller

MCN · May 1, 2014

saturnine said:
I wonder, could Nintendo release a revision of the Wii U dropping the backward compatibility ? How much would that shave off the retail price ?

The Backwards compatibility is a side effect of the CPU and GPU being related to the ones used in the Wii. They could not remove BC without changing the entire hardware, essentially.

Graphics Horse · May 1, 2014

WIS-009

joseotero · May 1, 2014

Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

Pop · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

Why even joke about it...

Ataru · May 1, 2014

Orayn said:
For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.

Not a wearable.

Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.

...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.

Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.

So, basically it's a Nintendo branded iPad?

Tempy · May 1, 2014

Orayn said:
For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.

Not a wearable.

Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.

...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.

Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.

Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

The information we have doesn't paint a cohesive picture of anything. Nintendo is basically teasing us with The King in Yellow and we're all gonna lose our minds just from trying to figure out what any of this could possibly mean.

It's a smart plushie/robot.

It will play with you.

It will play Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up and all your favorite songs.

It will help you excercise.

It will sing you a song when you're feeling down.

It will call an ambulance when it can't detect a pulse from you.

Neoxon · May 1, 2014

If they reveal anything, it's that QoL platform. It definitely won't be a console or a portable.

Exploratory · May 1, 2014

Ataru said:
Same reason you buy any Nintendo console, to play Nintendo games.

I don't give a crap how the system is selling worldwide, I just want to play Mario Kart 8.

That's nice but Nintendo does care they're running a business.

If Nintendo is smart they'll stop doing home consoles and handhelds and just have 1 platform a la Android.

If they made something like the Razer Switchblade or Razer Edge they'd be in business. Honestly Sony is in a better position to deliver a tablet that also does gaming though.

Orayn · May 1, 2014

Ataru said:
So, basically it's a Nintendo branded iPad?

Doubtful, as I think that would count as a "portable" and also go against what Nintedo's current stance toward mobile platforms like iOS and Android.

jeffers · May 1, 2014

joseotero said:
Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

quoted for extra visibility

JoeM86 · May 1, 2014

joseotero said:
Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

Interesting. Thanks Jose.

Can a mod throw this into the topic or the OP just to make sure people see it?

todd360 · May 1, 2014

If its a 2ds xl I will flip tables. 2ds xl makes no sense. Don't even joke about such a terrible announcement.

BY2K · May 1, 2014

I don't think Nintendo would reveal their QoL system without warning. It's meant for the general public and I'm not sure a surprise announcement would be the right way to do it. They'd probably call a press conference or release a PR or something, but not reveal it as a "surprise" during E3.

Both the Wii U and 3DS were announced via PR Releases a few months before E3, as well. So unless it's a revision, I don't see a new system being announced at E3 this year.

ArchedThunder · May 1, 2014

MCN said:
The Backwards compatibility is a side effect of the CPU and GPU being related to the ones used in the Wii. They could not remove BC without changing the entire hardware, essentially.

It has more to do with the architecture than the actual hardware, though the hardware helps in making the backwards compatibility perfect.

LordGouda · May 1, 2014

dcx4610 said:
It's happening.

Maybe then I can actually buy a PS4.

saturnine · May 1, 2014

MCN said:
The Backwards compatibility is a side effect of the CPU and GPU being related to the ones used in the Wii. They could not remove BC without changing the entire hardware, essentially.

Ah, thank you for the information.

Well, my money is on the QoL then.

Herb Alpert · May 1, 2014

joseotero said:
Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

and we're done here.

Filaipus · May 1, 2014

A little bit early for something major in terms of hardware to be announced I think (talking of consoles).

But... We never know.

SerodD · May 1, 2014

ArchedThunder said:
I know, Nintendo understands how PowerPC works, even if it is harder to work with and they could get more out of x86, at least in the short term. Considering how hard it was for them to move on to HD development I think it's best that Nintendo sticks with PowerPC for now, they just need to get some better tools and documentation for third parties.
Sticking with PowerPC will also make it much easier to bring over a lot of the work they've done on Wii U such as engines and emulators for the VC.

I think your spot on, from what we heard from a lot of developers what they really need is way better tools and documentation for third parties, if they make it extremely easy to port games there's no reason not to do it even if they can't selll as much consoles as the others.

Also they should get rid of however decided the Wii U was a good ideia and put someone there that thinks the PS4 is a better one to follow.

Orayn · May 1, 2014

Tempy said:
It's a smart plushie/robot.

It will play with you.

It will play Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up and all your favorite songs.

It will help you excercise.

It will sing you a song when you're feeling down.

It will call an ambulance when it can't detect a pulse from you.

Okay, that probably narrows the possibilities down to Chii from Chobits, Andrew from Bicentennial Man, or a physical manifestation of Hastur. Maybe it's all three and those are just the different SKUs available at launch.

Graphics Horse · May 1, 2014

joseotero said:
Hi! I left the message below on the news story linked in the OP, but I figured I should leave it here as well:

"I understand why someone would consider what we discussed newsworthy, but this story completely ignores an important piece of context: We didn't trust these sources enough to run a story on IGN."

Thanks but what I expect from IGN is to hear things like 'Don't expect revisions to 3DS hardware' in the same month the 3DS XL appears.
www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/12/nintendo-working-on-future-handheld-generation

michaelius · May 1, 2014

Orayn said:
For the life of me I still can't wrap my head around what the "QoL platform" would even be like.

Not a portable.

Not a wearable.

Not something that would displace or directly compete the Wii U or 3DS.

...But it still has to mesh with the rest of their ecosystem to some extent.

Implied to have connections to things like health, entertainment, education, exercise, cooking, and domestic stuff.

Stands on its own enough that it's considered a "platform" and not just a new group of software and peripherals for existing systems.

The information we have doesn't paint a cohesive picture of anything. Nintendo is basically teasing us with The King in Yellow and we're all gonna lose our minds just from trying to figure out what any of this could possibly mean.

Ehh it's probably some kind of system with central processing unit that gathers data from various expansion modules and analyses them giving you some kind of advice about your lifestyle.

Something like gutted down Wii U as central unit plus you conenct to it balance board to log your weight, motion controlers for excercises (and tracking your callories), some aplication/device/3DS to track distance you covered on jogging , something to suggest correct diet and/or track what you are eating and similar crap.

BuzzJive · May 1, 2014

I'm hoping for some new Bongos. Donkey Konga 4 time.

Shaanyboi · May 1, 2014

Steve Youngblood said:
What's the point? PS4 owners are already enjoying Knack.

lol

WordAssassin · May 1, 2014

Trago said:
I think it's a Wii U hardware revision.

- Slimmer game pad
- Built in hard drive.
- Ethernet Port
- $250 bundled with a game

And before you guys talk about the unsold Wii U's already in stock, they'll implement a new ambassadors program for current Wii U owners up until the release of the revision giving non owners a reason to pick the old system up.

Don't the current Wii Us have this? Mine does and I know it came out of the box that way...

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