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The warez scene is so fascinating
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AuthenticM
Member
I love how insane they must be to think this would put someone off downloading something.
I highly doubt anyone would say no to freely downloading a car. They're so damned expensive.
If I could 3D print a car, I would.
You can download these digital scene magazines:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Check_Network
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_Check_Network
This is a damn interesting read.
Coriolanus
Banned
Always found it intensely amusing how DAGGR would almost completely ignore the rules, write a corny joke in the info, and their stuff wouldn't get nuked.
Spend your valuable time creating something and have it taken without payment. See how you feel.
Yeah this idea that stealing or theft is only applicable when a physical object is taken is a baffling.
As an example, if you had a groundbreaking idea for a new app, you told someone your idea, and they then took it, patented it and sold it, they stole your idea right? They didn't pirate your idea.
Trying to find technical loopholes around the concept of piracy to justify it is so transparent. If you're gonna do it, at least accept what you're doing is wrong (not referring to anyone personally).
I came to post this one, it's truly fascinating.
I love how insane they must be to think this would put someone off downloading something.
I highly doubt anyone would say no to freely downloading a car. They're so damned expensive.
it's going to be funny how real this becomes when people are downloading hacks to unlock battery capacity and self-driving capabilities in their car so they don't have to pay for them.
You can. It would probably be more expensive than a real car.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/amp16726/local-motors-strati-roadster-test-drive/
http://mashable.com/2015/11/06/local-motors-pre-sale/#2uQ3uEUJjsqi
Meohsix
Member
Me and my cousin had DS flash carts and we were both eagerly awaiting the release of some silly game (that i won't mention the name of) but it seemed nobody cared about it because a week after it's release the rom was nowhere to be found. So my cousin went out and bought it, I dumped it and sent it off to one of the warez groups to release publicly.
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_/¯Always-honest
Banned
Never heard about it..
Had a friend in the MP3 group cms. Rokkness, this was in the 90s and early 00s. He would encode rare or hard to find hiphop stuff from tape and other sources. He probably had a legit measurable impact in eminems popularity and awareness growing before he got signed by dre. One incident in particular I remember. We use to chat on this voice app called Iparty. There was a kid named muskrat who went to a huge college I think in Texas. Rock sent a few MP3s of eminems stuff. Muskrat was listening to it in his dorm and said people kept hearing and asking about it. Within like a week the whole school was bumping Eminem, a few months later dre signed him. Interesting insight into viral music back in the day.
What are your thoughts on sites sharing rare and general book, educational, learning and training courses from all fields. Lots of how to material seems to be a trend. Courses that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars. What about out of print books?
What are your thoughts on sites sharing rare and general book, educational, learning and training courses from all fields. Lots of how to material seems to be a trend. Courses that cost hundreds or thousands of dollars. What about out of print books?
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Earthbound64
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The GOAT:
Earthbound64
Banned
Seriously, the complete lack of awareness and irony in that post is beyond belief.
Chainsawkitten
Member
I feel great, thank you.
Wafflecakes
Member
No one wants anything you have created... so your response makes sense.
Chainsawkitten
Member
If no one wanted what I created, no one would be pirating it so that doesn't make any sense. (Though it's true no one's bothered enough to keep the pirated version up-to-date. That bothers me a little. Pirates are getting a worse version.)
Human Resources
Member
Another thing to consider is that, in the future, if we live in a some sort of post-scarcity society, will many be remembered as being on the wrong side of history by impeding the dissemination of information, thereby hamstringing the technical evolution of humanity?
The pursuit of profit may eventually be seen as a backwards notion. (Although these future generations would probably lack the full context and empathy to understand that people needed money to make a living. It's an interesting parallel, our view of history today regularly vilifies people who violated human rights in the past for money. If all knowledge is eventually a protected human right, will the RIAA be viewed in the same light as slave traders? This is an absurd notion of course, but we cannot predict the attitudes that our descendants will adopt.)
This is all silly conjecture, and the context of this discussion mostly pertains to entertainment media -- but our art can inspire us to improve ourselves, and it can be used as a valuable tool for us to identify our passions in life and pursue them, thereby putting more motivated and eager individuals into better fitting positions in the workplace, thereby increasing the efficiency and efficacy of Total Human Output, or whatever exotic metric our future AI overlords measure our worth by.
The pursuit of profit may eventually be seen as a backwards notion. (Although these future generations would probably lack the full context and empathy to understand that people needed money to make a living. It's an interesting parallel, our view of history today regularly vilifies people who violated human rights in the past for money. If all knowledge is eventually a protected human right, will the RIAA be viewed in the same light as slave traders? This is an absurd notion of course, but we cannot predict the attitudes that our descendants will adopt.)
This is all silly conjecture, and the context of this discussion mostly pertains to entertainment media -- but our art can inspire us to improve ourselves, and it can be used as a valuable tool for us to identify our passions in life and pursue them, thereby putting more motivated and eager individuals into better fitting positions in the workplace, thereby increasing the efficiency and efficacy of Total Human Output, or whatever exotic metric our future AI overlords measure our worth by.
So many Morally Superior Upstanding Citizens in this thread using good ol' False Equivalence to pick on OP! Great job, ya'll!
So true. Gotta get those Hot Takes in there quick, apparently.
OP, I also find the warez scene quite interesting. I wonder how they take to competition from unknown groups who maybe don't follow the rules and such. The major distribution channels seem to be at least in part controlled by members of release groups. There's also the fact that multi-billion dollar corporations can't really seem to stop the scene.
No. However, it does imply you are a pedophile.
So true. Gotta get those Hot Takes in there quick, apparently.
OP, I also find the warez scene quite interesting. I wonder how they take to competition from unknown groups who maybe don't follow the rules and such. The major distribution channels seem to be at least in part controlled by members of release groups. There's also the fact that multi-billion dollar corporations can't really seem to stop the scene.
No. However, it does imply you are a pedophile.
/s
Am I missing something or does this post come off way more assholish/aggressive than it should?
Lockerz was legit the shit. Got my 3G/Wi-fi Vita at launch $50 off with the way they do discounting. They no longer exist though, but I managed to snag some other things before then. Movies mostly.
I'm not saying they're equal, I was only trying to make a point that it's stupid to respect anything simply for those reasons -- having a passion and keeping it secret.
I knew it would be incendiary to make that parallel, but I'd like to clarify that I in no way actually think they are analogs, morally.
BriareosGAF
Member
I still remember the numbers of some of my local BBSes.
Telex v3.22. XTreeGold and the Alt-255 directories. VBBS. Telegard. WWIV. ARJ vs. PKZip. Fossil drivers/X00.sys. None of my interns know what any of these things mean
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Chittagong
Gold Member
I take no issue when people on the internet disapprove my North Korea trip. I certainly don't need acceptance for my travels from anyone, least of all strangers online. In fact, I think someone in that DPRK thread did what I did above to the post, but swapped North Korea to Nazi Germany.
That said, getting back on topic, I do not think me having given money to a horrible regime somehow means that piratism isn't thievery. It's shoplifting, at home. Glorifying piratism as a 'cool underground thing' is incredibly naive and offensive to the artists and creators ripped off.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
YES I know the intro song is still fantastic, shame not more people have seen the series because its really good.
I still remember the numbers of some of my local BBSes.
Telex v3.22. XTreeGold and the Alt-255 directories. VBBS. Telegard. WWIV. ARJ vs. PKZip. Fossil drivers/X00.sys. None of my interns know what any of these things mean
Those are too young compared to .lzh, .lha, .lzx, .dms and so on
I don't know if it's the warez scene but I remember being impressed at the rate people got movies and tv shows out into the pirate scene. Tv show would have come on one hour ago ago, and someone recorded it, stripped the commercials, and put up an HD copy out within the hour. I remember times where people would apologize when they release a little later than expected, as if they offended the community. Like it was their job or something to pirate this shit and thought the customer free loaders out there would be disappointed
This was like in 2002, when the equipment to do this was not as prolific and there were no streaming sites really.
This was like in 2002, when the equipment to do this was not as prolific and there were no streaming sites really.
There is this old youtube video, if it helps?
Hashmal_Bringer_of_Order
Member
I'll never fucking forget when i saw Pirate Bay was down or blocked or whatever and thought "Let me try buying the music i was going download, no streaming or DRM bullshit, just clean MP3s, maybe... Amazon MP3?!"
I went to Amazon, loaded up my cart, and then: "Debit card not accepted - Credit card not accepted. - wrong country" Ok then,
I went straight to Youtube and used a downloader/converter for all the stuff i wanted at the time.
I went to Amazon, loaded up my cart, and then: "Debit card not accepted - Credit card not accepted. - wrong country" Ok then,
I went straight to Youtube and used a downloader/converter for all the stuff i wanted at the time.
Permanently A
Junior Member
A Mr. Robot or Narcos style show for the birth of the scene would be really interesting. Half following the people who run the scene and the lengths they go to in order to be the first, and the other half following the cops that are just discovering this new kind of criminal.
StrategyFan
Member
Captain Zyrain
Member
this thread reminded me of this game
it's like a visual novel where you control a computer connected to representations of 80s-era BBSs
don't know how accurate the depiction of the warez scene is
You know from day one I always pronounced it "Psy-Sop" and I literally just now realized its "sis-op" for system operator. Why did I never realize this? Tell me other people said psysop...
Yup.
There were/is lot of interesting tech found in demos, first time I saw screen space shadows was in demo made by a friend. (Full software rasterizer back in the days. Sadly I do not remember the name of the group/demo.)
StrategyFan
Member
looks like someone archived various commentary and files from the era
the warez stuff is here: http://textfiles.com/piracy/
random excerpts
i know some of these words:
someone got busted:
intro to a cracking guide:
a crusade against "lamers":
http://textfiles.com/statement.html said:
the warez stuff is here: http://textfiles.com/piracy/
random excerpts
i know some of these words:
http://textfiles.com/piracy/groups said:
someone got busted:
http://textfiles.com/piracy/manifest.-6 said:
intro to a cracking guide:
http://textfiles.com/piracy/CRACKING/c1.txt said:
a crusade against "lamers":
http://textfiles.com/piracy/overkill.txt said:
LouisaFerre
Member
That seems like a pretty fucked up way to respond to someone saying they don't mind having their content pirated, lol.
Cow Mengde
Banned
I remember checking Warez sites in the early 2K. That was shortly before Kazaa and all that got popular. I stopped checking after those sites started to install weird adware and shit onto my PC. That's also when I learned to use Firefox.
phatmike128
Member
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AppleSeason
Member
Not really. Many many years ago I thought it was awesome. Compilation discs with insanely cool install menus and music that even had secret codes that would show hidden pages, pictures... The demos and music before a game during the micro computer era...
A moment I remember quite fondly is when some groups would crack some of the AAA tier Playstation games and make them better than the originals by adding PAL / NTSC selectors, restoring the original speed and removing that extra layer of lard on the characters.
Nowadays, not so much. It does not seem like they put a lot of effort, releases rarely work, it's not like the games can't be obtained legally (when a game could not be purchased for years before digital distribution happened, it was a different story). Also the feeling that rather than this feeling like it was a popularity contest decades ago, this time it's done far more for profit.
A moment I remember quite fondly is when some groups would crack some of the AAA tier Playstation games and make them better than the originals by adding PAL / NTSC selectors, restoring the original speed and removing that extra layer of lard on the characters.
Nowadays, not so much. It does not seem like they put a lot of effort, releases rarely work, it's not like the games can't be obtained legally (when a game could not be purchased for years before digital distribution happened, it was a different story). Also the feeling that rather than this feeling like it was a popularity contest decades ago, this time it's done far more for profit.