Poor GRIMES
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the left is always always young people
good luck trying to motivate those that have historically never given a shit to vote
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American liberals are still not voting (Full Frontal w/Sam Bee)
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good luck trying to motivate those that have historically never given a shit to vote
True enough, but I suspect that is reflected more by their comparative youth as a block of people in the US.
whyamihere
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Wow Sam Bee posts a segment with bad data and you all go crazy with bad analysis. Good job, guys.
Early voting without an excuse is available in 33 states.
What is it too much to ask to stamp an envelope?
And yeah if there was ever a day worth taking a sick day, dragging your kids with you to the booth or making sure you had an ID it would be a vote that could change the path of the nation.
Of course. Unfortunately a lot of people don't understand that you can't produce sudden shifts in party makeup. The right didn't start out with crazies, they moved in that direction by slowly electing consistently. The left doesn't compromise and consistently elect leftwards. They want all or nothing immediately.
LegendofJoe
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True, the younger someone is the less likely they are to vote and Latino Americans on average are really young at the moment.
My biggest issue with local elections is lack of information about the times that a local election is taking place. I consider myself pretty involved and active politically but it is hard to know when a vote is taking place locally as they don't tend to be well forecast.
Is there an app or way to be informed when one of these votes is taking place?
Is there an app or way to be informed when one of these votes is taking place?
Poor GRIMES
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There's a real problem with the left here in the US in that they feel entitled to votes.
Guess what, no you fucking aren't. Get out there, knock on doors, get people active. Talking to billionaires in Cali and NY while people elsewhere are told "go online and read my white papers" is fucking bullshit. Unless you give enough of a shit to talk and connect to people you're not going to win elections. You're just not.
lol this thread is about local and state elections, outside of the normal election day in November. Is there early voting for elections outside that parameter?
And not everybody gets sick days bruh.
The Democrats would rather blame you than set-up an app, but this is the closest I could find in a short period of time.
Edit: It's not out yet, and will only be for Texas when it is.
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thepotatoman
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Local elections, which are easy for millennials to miss when they're busy getting their news from the internet instead of the local newspapers or local tv news that some old people still get their news from.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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Thank you! Did they happen everywhere? Are there other elections this year? I keep searching and all city websites seem like they were made in the latter half of the 90's.
With all due respect, your friends are ignorant morons.
The True Scottsman fallacy applied to candidates is a recipe for disaster if you can't be bothered to vote.
Then why was it that white working class failed to show up but us minorities did?
This needs to be repeated over and over again.
because a fascist talking about making the country whiter is more threatening to working class minorities than whites, to be sure. you still want to win those people over.
and even in minority groups the working class voter turnout is a lot lower than higher income brackets.
Tranqueris
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Hopefully this is something that that we'll see less of now that the Democratic party actually has some leadership and can start funding state parties and new talent.
Not gonna lie though, it's fucking infuriating especially the way liberals have been reacting to Trump.
"Everything is doomed! Nothing can stop Trump and the Republicans! Everything is hopeless now! If only there were something we could do besides believing everything is hopeless, which is exactly what Trump wants."
Well how about you fund your local Democratic party, volunteer for these upcoming races and actually go out and vote?
"Um.. uh.. If only there were something we could do!"
Not gonna lie though, it's fucking infuriating especially the way liberals have been reacting to Trump.
"Everything is doomed! Nothing can stop Trump and the Republicans! Everything is hopeless now! If only there were something we could do besides believing everything is hopeless, which is exactly what Trump wants."
Well how about you fund your local Democratic party, volunteer for these upcoming races and actually go out and vote?
"Um.. uh.. If only there were something we could do!"
Lol. Yeah, I think most of them would have continued voting blue-no-matter-who, as they had until this election, until the whole DNC telling progressives to go fuck themselves multiple times in several months happened. Now they talk about Democrats with the same venom they used to reserve only for Republicans.
sugarhigh4242
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No elitist politician whats to do it.
The choice isn't between Trump or Clinton. The choice is between building a mass social movement to make demands, or not getting anything.
Do you think the congress would have ever passed the civil rights without the civil rights movement?
GutsOfThor
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The only liberals are people associated with Bernie Sanders. Everyone else is an establishment shill according to some.
http://www.phillytrib.com/news/blac...cle_49d1aed9-76be-550e-b063-15ad7639dc97.html
While voter supression needs to be taken in consideration, it's still a 60% turnout which isn't that much better compared to the 57% turnout nationally. Especially when minorities might have more in stake from election cycles, this one in particular.
http://www.electproject.org/home/voter-turnout/demographics
All you fucking idiot liberals who refused to vote for Hillary will never believe the fact that she was the most liberal mainstream presidential candidate in decades, will you?
Naw, it's too fun and too easy to suck down all the fun GOP propaganda to realize you got played into hating Hillary because of lies, isn't it?
God fucking damn it.
Naw, it's too fun and too easy to suck down all the fun GOP propaganda to realize you got played into hating Hillary because of lies, isn't it?
God fucking damn it.
sugarhigh4242
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Theyre being offered candidates who want to privative public education, mass deport Latinos and team up with Saudi Arabia to crater the poorest countries in the Arab world.
I didn't realize Hillary was going to outlaw building massive social movements if she won. I must have missed that debate.
this is dumb and insulting. i voted for hillary but still dislike her greatly and not because i think she's a serial murderer but because of the things that she has personally said and done.
Why are you insulted when I'm not talking about you
because you're heavily generalizing in an idiotic way. the people who buy into hillary conspiracy theories are republicans who would never have voted for her in the first place. she didn't lose because of those people, she lost because she was a shit candidate for her base.
The Last Wizard
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We need the day off for elections.
sugarhigh4242
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The point is we have to build the movement regardless. Liberals and progressives completely failed to make any demands on President Obama and he institutionalized some of the worst Bush policies as a result. It's hard to imagine the War on Terror ever ending thanks to Obama's administration.
no, we don't
employer should give you time off upon your request and also you need to research absentee ballots
It would be convenient for your argument if this entire thread wasn't predicated on the fact that liberals didn't vote for Hillary.
I agree we need to build the movement regardless of who won the election. So why didn't some alleged progressives come out and vote to keep every minority/woman/LGBTQ person in this country from getting fucked?
You can do both, you know.
LizardKing
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The majority of the democratic party is white. Identity politics have failed to address the common interests of the majority of the party and common interests of the whole of the party. That's a big reason why you saw so many white working class voters flip.
At this point, the pro Hillary camp has been fed more propaganda that even the most insane right winger could've, since any apprehensions towards her is just supposed to be due to pedophile rings.
Can you provide numbers for a significant difference of voter turnout between alleged progressives and other demographics?
Can you provide numbers for a significant difference of voter turnout between alleged progressives and other demographics?
ArkkAngel007
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I didn't hear anything about elections. First time back in my residential state in 3 years, so didn't have prior participation to keep the timeframe in mind.
Used to be the town would mail off a packet with local election info, but that hasn't been present for a long while.
Used to be the town would mail off a packet with local election info, but that hasn't been present for a long while.
how do you know progressives were the ones who didn't come out to vote?
Most of them did. I'm talking about Bernie-or-Busters and third party voters.
There probably isn't a significant difference compared to history. I'm not really concerned with those other groups though, since this thread is about liberals not voting.
I mean, it's not propaganda to recognize that she objectively has the most liberal / progressive voting record of almost any other Senator in history. Or to recognize that she's been fighting literally her entire adult life to make the lives of women and children better. Or that she understands how to compromise - both with people to her right and people to her left - to reach legislation proposals that both achieve quality results and actually be feasible to implement and pass.
So yes, liberals who refused to vote for Hillary don't really deserve the sympathy or compassion from those who did because they sucked down decades of propaganda lying about how she's a "Republican in disguise" or "the emailzz" or whatever the fuck the controversy of the day is.
OniBarubary
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I know, right? If only someone wrote about this and explained in detail why this was bullshit and not very accurate on the first page to forego us from Democratic infighting and throwing accusations without backing evidence...
Oh wait!
Someone did!
I'll just quote this again so people can ignore it and fight amongst themselves again!
A lot of the problem is the youth vote. May have had President Bernie Sanders if they turned out the same way baby boomers do. They're the largest voting block, and Sanders was polling at 80% with that 18-29 demographic at one point. Clinton won more votes though. Had a great oppourtunity to stick it to the "establishment", but failed horribly. Less whining and more voting would give you guys everything you want.
third party voters exist every cycle at fairly constant numbers. do you have stats on bernie supporters who didn't go for hillary in the general? last i saw they did so in greater numbers than hillary-or-busters did in 2008.
Stats? No. I know it's a very small portion of Bernie supporters though that's not really the point. Hillary lost by tiny margins and Busters and third party voters are the easiest to sway to vote Democrat next time, so that's what I'm interested in.
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