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The ultimate fate of YouTube stars
- Thread starter UltraMav
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My 10 year old stepson likes to watch some dude who plays Minecraft and calls his channel "Preston plays". One day last year, he asked his mom and I if he could have 5 dollars so he could chat in his stream as chat was disabled unless you "donated". We both thought that was fucking ridiculous and dumb but said fuck it, if it makes him happy we'll be nice and let him do it one time. So he gets access to chat and was happy that this guy gave him a shout out. Shortly thereafter, my stepson asked if he (Preston) would subscribe to HIS YouTube channel (which is quite barren as he doesn't really know what he's doing but just wants to be like this Preston Plays guy) and the dude rudely called him out for "self promotion" which he "should know is not allowed". Fuck that guy.
So I hope that guys fate is failure lol.
So I hope that guys fate is failure lol.
Sad story. Never meet your heroes.
lucebuce12
Member
Why are you so upset? Someone is making money on their own.
ClosingADoor
Member
The smart ones continue in the media business somewhere behind the scenes or use their contacts to get a job at another company. The really smart ones save up their money and retire early if the income allows it. The others will just be like everyone else and get a job wherever.
IrishNinja
Member
none of them are that interseting
well maybe mark from classic game room, but he predates all that mess
I mean I've never seen someone do that and I wouldn't watch them if they did. It sounds like you need to expand who you watch.
Most people have a donation thing in the top corner but it sounds like you have some other issues with them besides that.
I also don't think you realize how much work it takes to be a successful streamer or youtuber. You're usually easily surpassing a 40 hour work week, especially if you want your channel to grow. They're not just sitting on their asses and making money, they're working for it and props to them.
It's a new generation and they're finding new ways to make money and a living. Just because it doesn't mesh with what is traditionally a job doesn't mean they aren't working for it.
Sounds like a paradox
You sure the problem is that they're begging? Because this reads hella misogynistic.
Well, they are both totally finished when they hit 30 so the analogy is apt.
How does one begat the other?
Means they're great self-promoters and either learned how to do their own graphics and technical aspects or teamed with someone who did. A lot of these ppl if they want to move to standard employment should be able to take on, say, broadcast work for local sports.
Well, as I stated.... I watch one twitch video... maybe once every 3 months only to see the pathetic attempts at asking .... for money again and again...
sooo....like porn?
That I don't disagree just curious about someone in STEM
ThatStupidLion
Member
I think theyll have a small legion of fans but for the most part will disappear into obscurity. Just like 1-hit wonder bands etc. theres always someone new for the youth to get addicted to. Look at the musician turnover rate.
Riposte
Member
This statement has some weird implications.
Actually his wife has a kid. So that's already kinda a thing.
Imperfected
Member
Ehhh. I don't think there's a porn star who's earned a tenth as much as some these youtubers, excepting the ones who own their own studio/production pipeline.
They're more like TV stars who can't make a reasonable transition. That is, how they're viewed will be largely dependent on how successful they are while they're active; no one's going to say Jerry Seinfeld is a failure just because he doesn't really work anymore.
In the US most people don't max their retirement plan until ~65. His is assuming they even have one, too.
Edit: You're well-informed!
BareKnuckle
Member
My best mate is a youtube star, one of the OGs so he's been doing it for ages.
He doesn't need to work now due to having serious cash to sit on. He has finance advisors who invest his money carefully. He is doing other stuff like making card games and writing a show for Disney and that.
It's the same as any famous people really, you just have to be smart how you move on after the moment passes. He still makes videos for fun tho.
He doesn't need to work now due to having serious cash to sit on. He has finance advisors who invest his money carefully. He is doing other stuff like making card games and writing a show for Disney and that.
It's the same as any famous people really, you just have to be smart how you move on after the moment passes. He still makes videos for fun tho.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
There wont be cameos, we already have "kids react to old ass shit."
I mean, most people don't keep their same job for their whole lives, why should we expect youtubers and twitch streamers to be any different? In the meantime they get paid to do what they love, meet some pretty interesting people and network with folks that can help them get into something else eventually. I don't knock anyone for doing it as long as they can.
Also I don't mind the like and subscribe reminders because I often forget. <.<
Also I don't mind the like and subscribe reminders because I often forget. <.<
Silent_Ocarina
Member
I find YouTube way more annoying than Twitch. I can't stand those edited thumbnails designed specifically to mislead people into clicking on it. You can tell a video is mostly phoned in if it's just past 10 minutes in length since that's the minimum length needed for whatever reason. I get that some people don't like Twitch for the overlays and the subscription and donation notifications, but that's the heart of Twitch streaming. With Twitch it's really important to engage your audience and people just like having their shoutout live on stream.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Statistically speaking, you absolutely get more likes, comments and subscribers if you say that. By a very noticeable amount. So if you want to do as well as possible on Youtube you have to. If you don't you are losing on subscribers.
Like, comment, subscribe is that one item in a game that literally every single character build needs because it's so powerful but it sucks that there are no other options.
DarknessTear
Banned
You can call them beggars but that's an outdated way of thinking.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
I see a lot of them fading out. The Creatures were huge, now their main guy Kootra has 942,126 subscribers but gets less than 5,000 views per video on average.
Vincent Grayson
Member
That they need it is a given. The question is whether they'll keep getting it.
I can't see most big YT people today still producing content and making career-worthy money on it in say, 5-10 years.
Of course, the biggest people, like Pewdiepie, will be fine financially.
depths20XX
Member
So basically you have no clue what you're talking about, cool.
To you twitch is "boob streamers with too much makeup". You sound like an ass to be honest.
Lord Frieza
Member
Did you realize halfway through this that fuck wasn't censored here or...?
The Elite
BOSS
Well, most people have children and still work a 9-5 job. If AVGN is his job than I don't see the big problem. In fact, if it allows him to stay home he might be better for it.
Diprosalic
Banned
i always feel a little bad for the youtubers that drive around in lambos and live in huge appartments and then freak the fuck out everytime youtube adjusts their algorithms a bit.
i'm sure many will be fine but save a little goddamn and diversify.
i'm sure many will be fine but save a little goddamn and diversify.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
Ad revenue shot down across the board on any channel that's not PG. A lot of them have basically stopped making the content they used to make, because they couldn't afford to keep up that style of video where no ads would run. It's a big deal, these are jobs.
Diprosalic
Banned
i know but they are jobs that are completely at the mercy of youtube. you don't have a contract with job security. if you don't make yourself independent from ad revenue and save a little you are doing it wrong.
Ray Wonder
Founder of the Wounded Tagless Children
No you're right, they should have a back up. But I don't mind them freaking out, because that shits scary. If the company I worked at told me they couldn't get anymore contracts, and started cutting time, I'd be scared af.
Diprosalic
Banned
that's different though. you can't really get employed full time by two different companies. i have my own firm, if i only had one client and that client dropped me i would be in huge trouble but it would be my own fault for not pursuing other clients. i wouldn't blame the company from moving on. they sat on their ass for years thinking that the money train will never stop.
Isaac Otherworld
Member
Even completely innocuous news channels have been hit extremely hard by the adpocolypse. I'm talking stuff that is comparably innocuous to NPC and other major outlets. Shit's rough for everyone.
That's the problem with a monopoly. If you want to make video entertainment on the internet Youtube is the only game in town.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I suspect we'll see a split over time, between the people who started making video content because Youtube exists and they use it and it just seems a natural fit, and the people who, like generations before them, just want to make content, and Youtube happens to be the best platform for it today.
The latter group will be fine. The former, I'm not so sure about.
Diprosalic
Banned
there's lots of things to do for youtubers that isn't strictly videos on the internet.
nothing he could do
RyougaSaotome
Member
I'm not 100% sure that most of them really treat it that way. I think GG is kind of one of the more unique examples, in that they used their income to basically turn a 2/3 person operation into a proper office and studio from which everyone in the group can do their work + GG videos. They've also been very good about networking, hiring a manager, etc. I'd argue that they're probably one of the more "ready" Youtube channels when it comes to dealing with what happens when/if things go south.
But a lot of other channels are still mostly solo-ish operations, which tends to lead to people saying stupid shit publicly or making a boneheaded move, etc.
Ultimately I think people need to be smart about this whole thing and evolve with the times. Use your money wisely, hire people who can figure out your finances, invest, work toward something else off to the side.
Adam_Vania
Banned
they will go down in history as the people who commented on Hollywood's golden age stars. everyone still remembers Clark Gable nobody cares about the critics that were around at the time. nobody remembers the bottom feeders.
Yeah I found this weird. Having a family means you have less time? How shocking and unique to youtubers!