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Why is there hate for a cash down preorder?
- Thread starter Hilti92
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Pre-order bonuses. I also know my tastes well enough to know that I was going to buy the games I pre-order on day one regardless of what anyone had to say about them.
Willy Wanka
my god this avatar owns
This is a pretty recent trend for UK street retailers and supermarkets but you can still preorder for free from nearly every online retailer. I don't pre-order much these days (I wait a month and get games for 50% off) but when I do, I like to be able to easily change my mind or move my preorder to another store that might be selling it cheaper. Sticking money down only complicates that process so I'm not prepared to do it.
I will jump on pre-orders if I see a great deal on cheapassgamer. Don't like paying 59.99 for a game so if I can get a game day 1 for less I am very happy to.
AppleSmack
Banned
Paying in November and getting a console handed to me is different to paying now and receiving nothing for 6 months. Read my other post
I will not change my place of pre-order either because it is the closest gamestop to my house and I can quickly drive and pick up my console. I should have ordered online maybe, but Amazon Canada wasn't taking pre-orders for a while and I was getting worried. Not going to lose my guaranteed copy now. I also put down $100 on the PS4 simply cause I had the money.
ScepticMatt
Member
Exactly this. Why give them extra money?
If that's your intent, cut the chase and tip the GS clerks now.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I wish the consoles were more expensive so I could stimulate the economy even more.
Why would I tip them?
Manmademan
Member
nope. can't say I go out of my way to pick up coins in the street either. I also don't preorder games or consoles, because I just don't care that much.
but speaking strictly from a financial perspective, the "but..interest!" argument on a purchase that small in a timeframe that short is bullshit. There is literally nothing he could do that would gain him any money over just giving it to gamestop here- but he might save time and hassle. Again- that's "might." i don't know how gamestop handles preorders.
The only reason not to preorder is "fuck gamestop, why should they make money off me?" which is an entirely different debate.
CambriaRising
Member
Some people like to make payments until the thing is out. Got no problem with that.
I pre-ordered on amazon but worry it will come a day or 2 late. Been times for movies and games they ship on release day so get it a day or 2 after. Makes it hard to time the couple of days work I am going to take off to play my new toy.
teacupcopter
Banned
The interest argument is silly because it's like 20 bucks over 6 months.
If there are retailers who do it for free great
I don't begrudge any company for wanting to secure a commitment from a customer before putting aside product from them. You are all saying the same thing "Why should I give money without getting a product"
Well why should they put aside product without getting money?
If there are retailers who do it for free great
I don't begrudge any company for wanting to secure a commitment from a customer before putting aside product from them. You are all saying the same thing "Why should I give money without getting a product"
Well why should they put aside product without getting money?
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Because it's one of the very few remaining perks of their dying-ass trade?
Alligatorjandro
Banned
yep
That and all of the other reasons which people have mentioned.
That is how I did it for the dreamcast launch. Being young did not trust myself to save the money and not spend it at the bar. I would drop money every pay day on it. It was a very large order 3 controllers 4 vmus 2 arcade sticks and 10 or 11 games. It was awesome I showed up at opening one of the employees helped me to the car with my haul with my receipt. While everyone else was waiting in line to pay.
Whether by more hours of payroll through Gamestop, or directly from your wallet, your argument for giving GS preorder money is to financially support that company or their employees.
So, tip them. Next time you buy a game, give the clerk who rings you up an extra $5. It's ultimately the same thing.
Because that's the nature and risk of operating any kind of business which deals with selling physical goods. By placing the risk of stocking unsellable goods on the retailer, it forces the retailer to compete for your purchase. You want to have the retailer compete for your purchase.
I'm quite sure that WalMart would be more than happy to take $100 from you every week so that you can preorder your groceries. Hell, go buy a gift card now. It's so convenient, right?
GameStop isn't making money off you with your pre-order. The money you put down doesn't get taken off the product you're pre-ordering and into GameStop's pocket.
The American Way of doing business.
SirMossyBloke
Member
People hate cash down? lol
I'm first on the preorder list with eb games, I don't have to worry about fed ex or whoever screwing things up as I see on here ALL the time, don't have to worry about damaged shipments and finally if my console is DOA when I pick it up I just go grab another one and don't have to worry about reshipping.
Or you could save $50 up front and deal with all that.
I'm first on the preorder list with eb games, I don't have to worry about fed ex or whoever screwing things up as I see on here ALL the time, don't have to worry about damaged shipments and finally if my console is DOA when I pick it up I just go grab another one and don't have to worry about reshipping.
Or you could save $50 up front and deal with all that.
That's not the same thing at all. If I get a tip, that is not supplying me with hours at my company. That is straight to my wallet. The company getting interest from the money I put down, goes towards allocating additional hours to associates.
Manmademan
Member
Gamestop makes interest on the money they have from preorders in advance. Say 1 million people give them 400 bucks right now (hypothetically), that means gamestop can invest that 400 million dollars somewhere between now and november that generates them interest above and beyond the profit they make from selling you the system.
the interest for an individual is negligible, but over a LOT of users and with a LOT of money, it's significant for them.
that's what I meant by "gamestop is making money off of your preorder." others have noted this before in the thread and have a problem with it- but if gamestop staying in business is such an issue, why shop there in the first place?
Ninja Scooter
Member
For consoles I understand. For games, it's pointless. I think people just see it as some kind of weird placebo that makes them think they are buying a part of a game before its actually out.
This makes no sense. You are saying that it's better in case of an emergency for you to pay money in advance?
Let's say the emergency happens a week before the new system comes out. By not having put any money down in advance, I would have $350 more in the bank than you would.
I can understand the argument: "If I put the $50 down on the game system each week, then I won't be able to blow the $50 on something else" for people living paycheck to paycheck, but that's really the opposite of planning for an emergency.
Your preorder with Gamestop -> Gamestop's budget -> Gamestop's payroll -> Employees get more hours -> Employees get more money.
Your tip to employee -> Employee gets more money.
Cut the chase.
Split the tip amongst everyone who works at the store you shop at if you want to ensure that everyone gets an equal extra amount of money.
Manmademan
Member
This also. I've never had a problem walking in and getting whatever damn game I want. Console launches can be insane though with campers, scalpers, midnight launches, christmas crowds that it might actually be worth it to preorder if you didn't want to deal with the bullshit.
I'm a Prime member and they've never failed me. /knocks on wood
teacupcopter
Banned
Groceries are an awful comparison. This is something that will sell out, almost guaranteed. It's not about the competition, it's about the retailer having a reasonable idea that you actually are going to buy what they are ordering in.
But of course everyone turns it into either interest!!! or FREE MARKET COMPETITION
I just don't get it, who fucking cares about dropping twenty bucks down
Yes because my $5 tip will be the equivalent to them getting an additional shift during the week.
jediyoshi
Member
I'll be playing while you wait for your package to be delivered.
Welcome to the age of release day delivery.
Yes because your $100 preorder will definitely trickle down to any single employee getting more than $5.
OK. What counter arguments are permissible to you?
I fucking care about dropping twenty of my bucks down.
I'm saying it's hard for some people to save money. Let's not play a word game in regard to what I mean by emergency ok?
SirMossyBloke
Member
It's like you've never had a package delivered ever.
Rei no Otaku
Member
I will be paying for my PS4 with mainly trade credit. Any cash I use will be done in installments so I don't pay all at once. I also like the atmosphere of a new console release. That's why I'm using GS.
I don't think Gamestop in the US is going out of business before the PS4/Xbone comes out.
No but when multiple people preorder, it will. Also, why tip and have to pay an additional amount of money to them when you can pay the same?
I'll be playing while you wait for your package to be delivered.
What are release date delivery for?
jediyoshi
Member
Yep. And they tend to come on time. Join us in the future, why don't you.
la flama blanca
Banned
So some of you actually put money down in the past and wasn't able to get the system? I'm curious to hear how these stories played out.
SirMossyBloke
Member
So you can sit at home and hope an undamaged box gets there on time?
Well,
Folks are money-minded and they think for the six months they put their $100 down they can earn a return of $5 instead of the corporation earning that interest.
Frankly I find that just silly. Talking of $100-500 for six months here. Not much earning power. If I had my way I would pay for it all up front six months out for piece of mind.
Folks are money-minded and they think for the six months they put their $100 down they can earn a return of $5 instead of the corporation earning that interest.
Frankly I find that just silly. Talking of $100-500 for six months here. Not much earning power. If I had my way I would pay for it all up front six months out for piece of mind.
Oh great, so you lose maybe a nickel or so that you could have made in interest. Yeah, that's totally a big deal.
Zen_Arcade
Banned
I like putting cash down in chunks so I don't have to pay for the console all at once. I just treat it like a bill I have to pay every month and by the time it comes out I just go and pick it up.
SirMossyBloke
Member
Tend to, yeah lol
Every package ever sent is always delivered exactly when it's supposed to be.
Exactly how far in the future do you live that these mistakes are completely wiped out?
So you get your packages delivered at midnight on release day? Sorry, retail still has the advantage when it comes to speed.
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