High Definition New Gen Gaming - Page 186

GDJustin · (09-18-2007, 12:23 AM)

Originally Posted by beat:

Set your camera on a tripod, or failing that, the coffee table or something else stationary. Then, use the 10 (or 2) second timer to eliminate hand shake.

Also, Samsungs usually have a "still" button on the remote that freezes the image onscreen.

Thanks. I'll try again later and try to get some better shots.

Smiles and Cries · (09-18-2007, 02:15 AM)

Originally Posted by Kleegamefan:

Check out these pictures of a Pioneer PDP 6010FD (1080p 8G Kuro) playing Blu Ray movies of Apocalypto
and Ant Bully from a PS3:

[ SEX VISUALS ]

This TV is so much win!!

how much are those now?

Smokey · (09-18-2007, 02:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Kleegamefan:

Check out these pictures of a Pioneer PDP 6010FD (1080p 8G Kuro) playing Blu Ray movies of Apocalypto
and Ant Bully from a PS3:

This TV is so much win!!

I'm sorry to quote the images but fuck.

wowowow

Primordial · (09-18-2007, 03:45 AM)

amazing!

I have a q- did anyone here buy HDTV from FRYS online site? How has been your experience with the delivery? How does it compare to Amazon.com?

Deus Ex Machina · (09-18-2007, 06:26 AM)

SEGA Rally Revo pics

Samsung 56" 1080p

neojubei · (09-19-2007, 02:27 AM)

Well I guess I have more time to devote to Crisis Core, because after a month and 2 weeks my TV died. Samsung is bringing a service rep to check it out on Thursday.

Mrbob · (09-19-2007, 03:36 AM)

Oh man that sucks. Which TV model number did you get?

neojubei · (09-19-2007, 04:03 AM)

LNT-4061 1080p

The service people are coming on thursday and bring a lot of internal stuff. The Service tech guy called me 2 hours ago saying they will try and fix it but if it is the panel (screen), they might have to make another visit.

SIGH..........

I should have know this was going to happen. My firmware was old which meant my board was old, I checked AVSforums about this.

Hopefully a new board will fix this problem.

Leatherface · (09-19-2007, 04:48 AM)

So I just bought myself a 22" HPw2207 LCD monitor this past weekend but I need a little help. Maybe I'm a little anal, but I want this thing to look as best as it possibly can and I'm not so sure I'm doing a good job at calibrating. My problem is most of the calibration software I've tried, including the pre-packaged crap that came with my LCD are really tough for me to get through. Especially the part with the red, green and blue color squares that I need to somehow cross my eyes to try and match the color strip to the part of the square with black lines going through it. lol

Can any of you videophiles recommend to me a really thorough, but easy to use software or at least a good technique I can use to calibrate my monitor? This set up is killing me or at least slowly blinding me at this point.

Thanks!

Sai · (09-19-2007, 08:15 AM)

Question about speaker placement:

For the left & right surround speakers, I know it's generally recommended that they be placed a bit behind the listening position, 2-3 feet above ear level. Sliding door of my den kind of makes that a problem for the left one, and the best I'd be able to do for the position I have planned would be to place it above the door, which would put it at about 4 feet above ear level...

Would this be okay? I can place it beside the door if not, but I'd have to move my position foward a bit more than I'd like(wouldn't leave much room in between the sofa and the TV, no coffee table. :().

And as for the rear speakers, are they usually placed at the same level as the surround speakers? Or do you leave those at ear level?

Fabiollo · (09-19-2007, 08:41 AM)

Maybe a little OT...
My Xbox 360 is connected via optical cable to my amp, and it worked like a charm 'til yesterday. The last time I powered the console the sound was only stereo, no more dolby digital. I checked the console settings, and everything's fine, and I made a quick test about my amp and my speakers. Everything works fine. Help me, gaf!

surrealist · (09-19-2007, 10:12 AM)

Originally Posted by JB1981:

just saw the new 60" A3000 - fucking awesome.

I want the 50"

I hear ya. I'm eyeing the 55s. I'm stuck at the moment. LCD, or rear projection.

Mrbob · (09-19-2007, 05:11 PM)

The A3000 are indeed awesome. I don't know if I want a rear projection TV though.

Zombie James · (09-19-2007, 08:12 PM)

I'm totally loving my 42LB5D. Still needs some fine-tuning as far as calibration goes, but Bioshock looks so fucking good as it is... oh man...

AVclub · (09-19-2007, 10:24 PM)

I am looking to trade up from a Sony 36" CRT (all 230lbs of it getting donated to local charity) which has 1080i through component but a fairly murky picture. I want an LCD 1080p (native) tv which will have enough inputs to connect my Wii, 360, PS3 and DirectTV HD-DVR. My ideal size would be between 42" and 46" for the living room.

After some research I've seen some LG and Samsung displays which seem to be generally well reviewed. However, nothing's popped out at me. This thread seems to not have a general consensus except that Samsungs seem to be favored.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a particular model that might fit my criteria? I'd appreciate the help, as my old TV is going away next week.

widgetraf · (09-19-2007, 10:44 PM)

Quick question:

Does tearing only happen when using HD sources? I want to test my TV for tearing but so far, the only HD source I have is an xbox 360. I've seen tearing but I can't tell if it's just tearing from games (GOW and Blue Dragon particularly) or my Sammy is defective.

Btw, it's a Samsung LNT3253H 1020 FW.

Originally Posted by AVclub:

I am looking to trade up from a Sony 36" CRT (all 230lbs of it getting donated to local charity) which has 1080i through component but a fairly murky picture. I want an LCD 1080p (native) tv which will have enough inputs to connect my Wii, 360, PS3 and DirectTV HD-DVR. My ideal size would be between 42" and 46" for the living room.

After some research I've seen some LG and Samsung displays which seem to be generally well reviewed. However, nothing's popped out at me. This thread seems to not have a general consensus except that Samsungs seem to be favored.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a particular model that might fit my criteria? I'd appreciate the help, as my old TV is going away next week.

Do you have a budget? I would say go get a 71/81 series from Samsung if you can afford it.

AVclub · (09-19-2007, 11:10 PM)

Originally Posted by widgetraf:

Do you have a budget? I would say go get a 71/81 series from Samsung if you can afford it.

Yes. I'd like to keep it under $2000. Anything more and the wife will cry foul.

I'll look at the 71/81 series though...just checked. $2500 is too rich for my blood.

GDJustin · (09-19-2007, 11:23 PM)

Originally Posted by AVclub:

Yes. I'd like to keep it under $2000. Anything more and the wife will cry foul.

I'll look at the 71/81 series though...just checked. $2500 is too rich for my blood.

Amazon has a Samsung 40'' 1080P LCD for sale for $1400 with free shipping. I got mine this week and have been loving it

Then again its my first HD set, so YMMV.

widgetraf · (09-20-2007, 02:42 AM)

Originally Posted by AVclub:

Yes. I'd like to keep it under $2000. Anything more and the wife will cry foul.

I'll look at the 71/81 series though...just checked. $2500 is too rich for my blood.

61/65 series is pretty good. A 46" is just above $2,000, but that's on Amazon. I'm sure there are better deals out there (check BB, CC, Fry's ads for starters) that can bring the price down to below $2,000.

That said, Sammys and Sharps are really good value purchases so start with those brands.

Smokey · (09-20-2007, 02:56 AM)

So I went to Best Buy today w/ the intention of buying a 50'' Sony A3000. I want a big screen and the Halo hype is running through my blood, and I had memories of when I was playing the beta on a 61'' 1080p Sammy. So I get there and decide to look at the plasmas, and I stumble upon the Pioneer 5080, which I've seen before I just wanted to take another look.

*sigh*

My heart is set on that Pio, but I don't think my wallet is. The thing runs at 3,400 @ Best Buy, and they didn't even have the 1080p Pio's so I couldn't compare altho I know those are probably like 5K.

:( :(

Smokey · (09-20-2007, 03:44 AM)

wrong thread.

K0NY · (09-20-2007, 04:43 AM)

I've seen some Toshibas that are 42" and 47" at Best Buy under two grand. Dont know if they are any good or not. There aren't any reviews that I've seen online, which makes me think they probably suck.

Crayon Shinchan · (09-20-2007, 07:29 AM)

Sony VPL-VW60, the pearl's successor released. Better and cheaper than the previous iteration.

C'mon! Where are those laser bulb projectors? Failing that... I'll be picking one of these babies up. Next year. :p

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gajillion...oes-291609.php

http://www.pricejapan.com/front/e_re...y=11&in_maker=

StranGER · 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by GDJustin:

Amazon has a Samsung 40'' 1080P LCD for sale for $1400 with free shipping. I got mine this week and have been loving it

Then again its my first HD set, so YMMV.

can you link to the set you are talking about?

does the elite put out 1080 or just 720

is it worth spending more for the 1080 set over this 720

i gotta buy one by monday. also any idea if best buy matches net prices ?

720 samsung

1080 samsung

Lucky Forward · (09-20-2007, 02:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Smokey Bones:

So I get there and decide to look at the plasmas, and I stumble upon the Pioneer 5080, which I've seen before I just wanted to take another look.

*sigh*

My heart is set on that Pio, but I don't think my wallet is. The thing runs at 3,400 @ Best Buy, and they didn't even have the 1080p Pio's so I couldn't compare altho I know those are probably like 5K.

:( :(

Like a lot of people here and on the AVS forums, I bought my Pioneer 5080 from Invision Display for $2626 delivered.

Smokey · (09-20-2007, 04:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Lucky Forward:

Like a lot of people here and on the AVS forums, I bought my Pioneer 5080 from Invision Display for $2626 delivered.

Yeah I know.

It's just...that's a crapload of money to pay for something online.

widgetraf · (09-20-2007, 04:30 PM)

Originally Posted by StranGER:

can you link to the set you are talking about?

does the elite put out 1080 or just 720

is it worth spending more for the 1080 set over this 720

i gotta buy one by monday. also any idea if best buy matches net prices ?

720 samsung

1080 samsung

The Xbox can output either 720p or 1080p over HDMI.
Best Buy does not match internet prices.

maynerd · (09-20-2007, 04:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Smokey Bones:

Yeah I know.

It's just...that's a crapload of money to pay for something online.

You can price match locally. I got my local bestbuy to drop their price on the 5080 by $500 when I brought in an online print out of plasma concept's price. I ended up getting Magnolia hifi to drop it down to match the online retailer though. :)

AstroLad · (09-20-2007, 04:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Smokey Bones:

Yeah I know.

It's just...that's a crapload of money to pay for something online.

I bought online as well. You really can't go wrong if you buy from one of the reputable places. Probably safer than being from B&M in many instances since the online guys are completely specialized. If you have any concerns, just voice them over phone or e-mail and I'm sure they'll address them for you. It's not like going to Amazon or something, you can get much more personalized service. When I bought my 4280 (~$2000) and my laptop (~$3000) I knew the salesmen by first name and were often in touch with them.

AVclub · (09-20-2007, 04:37 PM)

A bit OT but DAMN! I'm having a hard time finding a charity here in NYC that will come pick up my tv. That shit is worth $400-$500 in its current condition. A Sony 1080i TV from 2000. All I keep hearing on the phone is, "We don't pick up single items" and "Is that all you have to donate?"

Anyone know an orginization equiped to take thing TV off my hands and put it to good use?

neoism · (09-20-2007, 06:57 PM)

I'm new to this stuff so I was wondering your thoughts on this TV
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5684931
I really want a Hd set for gaming.My price range is 1000 so if this set is crap What would you recommend

neojubei · (09-20-2007, 07:41 PM)

huzzah huzzah!!!
My TV is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LAstest Firmware and board and WORKING!!!!

knee · (09-20-2007, 07:48 PM)

I'm finally part of this 'new gen' as I just got a new HDTV! I have a LC42D64U from Sharp!

Before this, I was standard def. I'm diggin' it.

GDJustin · (09-20-2007, 07:53 PM)

Originally Posted by StranGER:

can you link to the set you are talking about?

does the elite put out 1080 or just 720

is it worth spending more for the 1080 set over this 720

i gotta buy one by monday. also any idea if best buy matches net prices ?

720 samsung

1080 samsung

This is the exact set I ordered from Amazon and have been using (much to my delight) this week:

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-LNT406...0313953&sr=8-6

Samsung LNT4061F 40" 1080p LCD HDTV

I'm NOT an expert on HDTVs... in fact I'm kind of an HDTV noob. But I chose this set for a few reasons -

1) A cheap(ish) 1080P set without a "catch" for its relatively low price. I knew I wanted to make the jump from SD to HD, but I didn't want to half-ass it with a 720P set since 1080P is going to do nothing but become more and more common. I don't see the point in someone going HD for the first time right now, but only going 720P. You'll still be playing catch-up.

2) Fast LCD response time, making it good for gaming.

3) (relatively) high contrast ratio, meaning the set has good black levels compared to other LCD. Samsung has a higher-end LCD (6165F) that has a 15,000:1 ratio. This set is 10,000:1. For someone like me that isn't a huge videophile I felt like the better ratio wouldn't be worth the additional cost. 10K:1 is still very good.

...those were my reasons, but I'm not really an A/V guy, so what do I know.

ninj4junpei · 01:09 AM

beat · (09-21-2007, 01:03 AM)

Originally Posted by GDJustin:

...those were my reasons, but I'm not really an A/V guy, so what do I know.

Manufacturer's stated specs tend to be misleading. "Dynamic contrast", "response time", "power output" (for receivers), ... all these stats can be gamed to look good on paper without providing tangible benefits. It's kinda depressing, actually.

But hey, enjoy your new TV. I have an older Samsung and despite the fact that it's nowhere near top-of-the-line, I still like it. Also, I'm not made of money.

GDJustin · (09-21-2007, 02:11 AM)

Originally Posted by beat:

Manufacturer's stated specs tend to be misleading. "Dynamic contrast", "response time", "power output" (for receivers), ... all these stats can be gamed to look good on paper without providing tangible benefits. It's kinda depressing, actually.

But hey, enjoy your new TV. I have an older Samsung and despite the fact that it's nowhere near top-of-the-line, I still like it. Also, I'm not made of money.

*shrug*

I also checked to make sure where weren't compaints about my set in this topic or around a couple AVS forums. Everyone seems to dig this Samsung line, incl. people that follow the scene much, much closer than me.

Psychotext · 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by GDJustin:

*shrug*

I also checked to make sure where weren't compaints about my set in this topic or around a couple AVS forums. Everyone seems to dig this Samsung line, incl. people that follow the scene much, much closer than me.

Correct. Right now it's considered to be in the top 3 LCDs money can buy (beating others in certain areas and weaker in some). If you don't want to risk image retention / see phosphor trails on plasmas then it's a fine choice.

[Edit - Was referring to the 71 series. All these different model numbers in different countries confuse me!]

CoG · (09-21-2007, 03:19 AM)

Originally Posted by GDJustin:

*shrug*

I also checked to make sure where weren't compaints about my set in this topic or around a couple AVS forums. Everyone seems to dig this Samsung line, incl. people that follow the scene much, much closer than me.

You can't really go wrong with the LNT4061F. Best LCD if you not going for the 71 series.

-viper- · (09-21-2007, 05:08 AM)

Originally Posted by Deus Ex Machina:

SEGA Rally Revo pics

Samsung 56" 1080p

Wow.

What console is that footage from?

Kleegamefan · (09-21-2007, 01:50 PM)

Originally Posted by Smokey Bones:

Yeah I know.

It's just...that's a crapload of money to pay for something online.

Smokey, I have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars buying consumer electronics online over the past 5 or so years....

I have not had one single bad experience at all...

You would be a fool to spend all that money at a Brick and Mortar shop...

Call up Roman at Invision Displays, order the 5080 and call it a day.....

dark10x · (09-21-2007, 01:51 PM)

Originally Posted by -viper-:

Wow.

What console is that footage from?

That is likely taken from the 360 version. However, having tested both demos, I can tell you that it looks *EXACTLY* the same on both PS3 and 360.

nasero · (09-21-2007, 03:44 PM)

I was asked a few pages ago to post my impressions on the Samsung 46" LNT4671F when I got it. Well, my impression would be, holy shit.

I've never owned a HD set before and this is my first, but I noticed no problems that you are typically told to look for with these sets, even the famed triple ball effect for football wasn't noticed but I haven't looked for that too much.

Blacks are very black, everything on the PS3/360 under HDMI is gorgeous.

Zaraki_Kenpachi · (09-21-2007, 03:51 PM)

How are dlps? Are they considered any good? I saw a 50" sammy 1080p dlp for $1300 open box special.

TriggerHappy · (09-21-2007, 03:57 PM)

Finally got a 360 and an HDTV to replace my 10 year old 20 inch SDTV.

Went with a 37 inch 1080i Olevia 237t. I live in New York City and living rooms here are pretty universally small, so 37 inch is plenty big for my purposes. I have little interest in the PS3 library, so 1080p didn't seem like a big deal.

I'm very very happy with it, especially for $750 with shipping and tax. Turning PIP on and off is a pain, and I don't like the menus very much, but the picture seems very nice to me. Then again I'm not exactly a videophile, either.

I highly recommend it for anyone looking for a decent sized budget HDTV.

Deus Ex Machina · 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zaraki_Kenpachi:

How are dlps? Are they considered any good? I saw a 50" sammy 1080p dlp for $1300 open box special.

For what it's worth, I did extensive research before I purchased my TV. By the way, I have a Samsung HSL5687W 1080p DLP. I removed LCD from the equation because of the issues stated, poor contrast ratios, blurring, ghosting, etc.

I went with DLP because to me, it was the best value. Now that I have had my TV for close to a year, I absolutely love it. The PQ is simply amazing and it accepts more types of connections than other, more prominent (Sony), TV's do. What I mean is that the TV natively displays 1080p through component, VGA, and HDMI. For a 360 owner, this is great. Not every 1080p TV will do this.

To summise, it's flexible, lower cost and bigger screen, amazing Picture Quality.

Hope this helps.

Peru · (09-21-2007, 05:07 PM)

Got the 37" full-hd Toshiba Regza, as my first Hi-def tv.

Mrbob · (09-21-2007, 05:07 PM)

Are we ever going to see 3 Chip DLPs hitting the consumer market anytime soon?

I think DLP are very nice as well, but I see those damn rainbows and it drives me crazy.

Deus Ex Machina · (09-21-2007, 05:12 PM)

Originally Posted by Mrbob:

I think DLP are very nice as well, but I see those damn rainbows and it drives me crazy.

Have you tried the LED DLP models?

scissorfight · (09-21-2007, 05:17 PM)

Originally Posted by Mrbob:

Are we ever going to see 3 Chip DLPs hitting the consumer market anytime soon?

I think DLP are very nice as well, but I see those damn rainbows and it drives me crazy.

3-chip DLP projector are still very expensive. I don't think you'll see them in rear projections, ever. They'll just release better LED models or new laser models.