realism
+ chromatic aberration
+ muted colors
+ noise
+ lens flares
+ piss filter
+ black bars
+ motion blur
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2015 video game
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Graphical effects that make a game look WORSE
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Android18a
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The problem with motion blur is if you have to tell people your game is fast, it's not fast. Movement should be fairly explanatory and if you have to motion blur it to look good, something's wrong.
I make exceptions when it's specifically in short bursts or subtle and it adds something. In Burnout, it was a visual indicator you were burning through your boost and definitely not at "normal" speed. But when you're blurring everything, even when driving normally, that seems excessive.
I make exceptions when it's specifically in short bursts or subtle and it adds something. In Burnout, it was a visual indicator you were burning through your boost and definitely not at "normal" speed. But when you're blurring everything, even when driving normally, that seems excessive.
Motion blur, bloom, lens flare, chromatic aberration, film grain, color filters (piss, "gritty", etc), DoF, blood on the screen, blurred screen after being hit, and the worst offenders: fucking head bobbing and camera shakes during attacks.
Perfect.
Idk man, pic with filter seems to be closer to reality. That blue light without the filter is preeety bad.
Edit: Or is that what you wanted to express in the first place?
C'mon.
Just because a cave exit can look like the filtered one doesn't make it more accurate.
Also, I posted it to point out how color variety is incredibly muted and dead in the filtered image, but with the filter removed you can actually see the colors come to life. The sniper stock is a different shade of brown from the cave walls is a different shade of brown from Chris's skin is a different shade of brown from the wooden platform. In the filtered version they all homogenize into a samey sickly greenish brown color. It gives you a more expansive color pallete to enjoy without the filter, and you can modify the "but now it looks less start" by upping the contrast while still keeping colors in tact.
Man, too much hate for motion blur in here. I love me some motion blur. Especially at 60fps.
The two aren't even related.
The use of depth of field in games makes sense only in Virtual Reality with eye-tracking tech.
I know there are traditional (Flat Reality?) games that adjust DOF depending on where the crosshair is aimed at but that system brakes down the moment you look somewhere else than the center of the screen.
I know there are traditional (Flat Reality?) games that adjust DOF depending on where the crosshair is aimed at but that system brakes down the moment you look somewhere else than the center of the screen.
Summer Haze
Banned
Modded
Modded is much bette imo.
Looks way too saturated for me. But vanilla looks too muted. A middle ground between the two would be perfect imo.
Lockjaw333
Member
I love amazing graphics in games, and I generally like most of the extra effects in games. Well done motion blur looks incredible, as does high quality depth of field. I'm also a fan of all of the "movie camera" type effects like lens flare, sunspots, water droplets, etc. I think its all really cool when done well.
However there is no defending CA outside of Destiny's implementation, since you are supposed to be looking through a helmet shield. Otherwise, it makes zero sense. I don't understand what its trying to mimic. Do we see this is movies? Wouldn't only a low quality camera generate this effect?
I'm okay with using it sparingly, things like supernatural events in games to make things look freaky, but the CA in a game like Bloodbourne is almost comical. What the shit are they trying to acheive with that?
However there is no defending CA outside of Destiny's implementation, since you are supposed to be looking through a helmet shield. Otherwise, it makes zero sense. I don't understand what its trying to mimic. Do we see this is movies? Wouldn't only a low quality camera generate this effect?
I'm okay with using it sparingly, things like supernatural events in games to make things look freaky, but the CA in a game like Bloodbourne is almost comical. What the shit are they trying to acheive with that?
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Fallout 3 was supposed to look that way though, it was supposed to be semi depressing. There was a damn nuclear war after all.
Septimus Prime
Member
Desaturation. Everything just looks so washed out these days.
Yep. Part of the reason why I like DC's look so much is that they actually fucking used a natural colour palette. Why so many devs are unwilling (or unable) to do this is beyond me.
cpp_is_king
Member
Play Final Fantasy Type 0 and then tell me how you feel about motion blur.
A bad implementation of motion blur doesn't make it a bad effect in every case.
EmCeeGramr
Member
you forgot to make the pavement soaking wet
CA
Creative Assembly
Chromatic Abberation
No wonder Alien: Isolation had this effect in spades.
Especially when you're supposed to seeing said world from the perspective of your character. It doesn't make it more immersive to put another layer between the created world and the end user in many situations imo. Much of this, is to mimic the immersion of hollywood movies?
It makes me wonder, how much processing power is used simulating camera effects within a game.
Weltall Zero
Member
I dislike the shitty depth of field implementation a few games seem to have where each object is blurred but their outer edges are razor sharp. It looks ridiculous in every possible bad way.
John Kowalski
Banned
chrome abs is the shit
ByakuyaEXT
Neo Member
I really disliked those FX effects with the PS2 GTAs
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
Varies from game to game. There are effects I hate in some games but love in others.
Its always about the implementation and the overall look the devs want to achieve.
But facial capturing(not an effect, I know) has always been a pet peeve of mine. I always thought facial capturing looked worse than hand animated faces. No matter which game. I guess most notably was TLoU(hand animated) followed by Beyond:Two Souls(facial capturing).
Beyonds faces just looked weird to me
Its always about the implementation and the overall look the devs want to achieve.
But facial capturing(not an effect, I know) has always been a pet peeve of mine. I always thought facial capturing looked worse than hand animated faces. No matter which game. I guess most notably was TLoU(hand animated) followed by Beyond:Two Souls(facial capturing).
Beyonds faces just looked weird to me
kruis
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They do it for the same reason movie directors are in love with color grading: it gives the visuals a distinct look and (used wisely) is a great tool to set a mood. Unfortunately color grading in movies is often overdone. It's hard to find a modern movie with real life colors, every shot is either drained of color or completely oversaturated.
mysteriousmage09
Member
10/10
ScepticMatt
Member
Chromatic aberration is this gen's bloom. Epic explained during the UT4 podcast that artists like because it makes the output look less "clean" and "computer-generated".
Depth of field can look great, but despise poor-quality DoF - especially if they use a depth-unaware Gaussian blur with hard edges everywhere.
I have a similar opinion on poor motion blur filters (e.g strobing artifacts) but they have gotten a lot better this gen.
Order 1886 is a good summary of all the the filters I hate - except for bad DoF
Depth of field can look great, but despise poor-quality DoF - especially if they use a depth-unaware Gaussian blur with hard edges everywhere.
I have a similar opinion on poor motion blur filters (e.g strobing artifacts) but they have gotten a lot better this gen.
Order 1886 is a good summary of all the the filters I hate - except for bad DoF
Besides being very blurry and grainy, they also overused color grading with the strong azure-colored shadows.
Too strong spectacular reflections / speculator aliasing. A problem with their last-gen/PC low shaders.
It kind of bugs me because there was some genuine thought put into the progress of the post apocalyptic world in the second game. Bottle caps had been phased out as actual money was being produced again, and society had reformed into a kind of old west setting. The "soft reboot" of Fallout 3 undid all of that. I wouldn't really want the world of Fallout to remain mostly static over the course of hundreds/thousands of years the same way The Elder Scrolls is.
thewhitehawk
Member
I disagree that Fallout 3 looks worse due to it's hue and color tinge. Its an intentional choice that helps set the mood and theme of the game.
If you think a game about a post-apocaliptic civilisation on the brink of extinction should have a bright blue sky with a strong sunshine then we have very differing tastes.
If you think a game about a post-apocaliptic civilisation on the brink of extinction should have a bright blue sky with a strong sunshine then we have very differing tastes.
shark sandwich
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Shhhh don't give them any ideas. I bet soon we'll have scan lines and color bleeding to make it look like you're playing on a cheap CRT TV.
These are the most powerful consoles ever created. Gotta put that power to use!
Beautiful Ninja
Member
Depth of Field is the one that usually irritates me the most. I just don't think it looks well done most of the time. It also gives me fits if a game that uses it implements it in a way where the blur pops in an out up close due to camera angle issues, usually in a cutscene.
Motion blur is another I hate in games, I either turn it off or leave it on low, the blur almost never matches the speed of your characters so it feels really out of place. Sonic is the kind of game where I can understand some motion blur, Crysis is not.
Motion blur is another I hate in games, I either turn it off or leave it on low, the blur almost never matches the speed of your characters so it feels really out of place. Sonic is the kind of game where I can understand some motion blur, Crysis is not.
nobodyshero
Banned
Well this thread has taught me that no matter how many examples I'm given, I haven't a fuck what Chromatic aberration is or why it's a bad thing. I've literally been staring at like these 10+ examples just laughing at myself wondering "what the hell am i looking at here?"
Like that? Even worse images in the Console Emulation thread, it's like half of the posters played their old games with their nose touching the TV. So many overdone scanlines :/
shark sandwich
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It's easiest to see in the UI in the upper left corner in my example shot from the OP. Basically the red/green/blue that are supposed to make up that white UI don't "line up" so you see a reddish hue on one side and a blue hue on the other side.
I shouldn't quote this, but hell, even 2 Minutes after watching at those Pictures my Eyes still hurt
Bill Rizer
Member
I used to despise Tekken's tacky graphical effects on hits, compared to Virtua Fighter's clean, impactful collisions. Then I got used to them.
dr_rus
Member
Why don't we also start altering movies while we're at it?
Look at this shit, real life isn't green.
Wow, so much bloom. Disgusting.
Kubrick must have known nothing about lenses. Didn't he notice the chromatic aberration?
Great games you have there.
Why don't we also start altering movies while we're at it?
Look at this shit, real life isn't green.
Wow, so much bloom. Disgusting.
Kubrick must have known nothing about lenses. Didn't he notice the chromatic aberration?
Sometimes effects make sense contextually, and some times they're executed to effectively evoke a certain mood or atmosphere.
A lot of times in games, that isn't the case and in order to fix it all that is required is an off switch.
Most of the time in movies effects like this are given a lot of thought when implemented. Often times in games they're an afterthought.
Gnome Scat
Member
Fog and bloody screens.