without context ... that could mean two very different things lol
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Mike Pence (Indiana Governor) signs Religous Freedom Bill into Law
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without context ... that could mean two very different things lol
The letter they sent suggested it was more of a "when it comes time to renegotiate" thing than a "we out!" thing. Which I can certainly understand since the pure logistics of moving a 50,000 person convention would be nuts.
I think the bigger immediate fallout is stuff like the Salesforce thing and future NCAA events.
The Janitor
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Because turning away customers as a business is a genius move.
They don't care. This isn't about the law, it's about pandering to your base. They know they will lose, and then they can wail about activist courts overriding the will of the voters and forcing Christians to gay marry.
The fact it will bring misery to people, cost the state millions in lost business and further millions in litigation doesn't matter - because it will get them votes from their base and that's all they care about.
bennywhatever
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I just want to point out that I'm a Christian living in Indiana and I oppose this law.
#notallindianachristians
#notallindianachristians
Outdoor Miner
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This is shameful. I hope that fallout is massive.
Whoops! Fixed.
They feel that way because you people keep telling them to feel that way.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Thank god for religion, right?
Wow, just wow.
Wow, just wow.
If the Hobby Lobby challenge went the way it did, I don't expect this to be any different.
We pander to the religious beliefs of people all the time.
Paging Metaphoreus. You can now perform your happy dance.
Religious people feeling like their rights and liberties are under attack, what a joke when the politicians always cater to them like this.
I find it utterly repulsive that people like this so keen on denying others their rights, throw a massive hissy fit whenever things don't go their way.
I find it utterly repulsive that people like this so keen on denying others their rights, throw a massive hissy fit whenever things don't go their way.
Please oh please let a business owner tell a CHRISHUN that they can't eat at their restaurant, or sell them that dress, or bake them a wedding cake because its against their deeply held religious beliefs.
Can't wait until the inevitable happens, and its revealed that this wasn't meant to cover non christian religions. Hope Indiana gets every ounce of backlash its can muster.
And before anyone says "Its not fair to hurt the citizens over this!" They voted for these clowns, so they're just as complicit.
Can't wait until the inevitable happens, and its revealed that this wasn't meant to cover non christian religions. Hope Indiana gets every ounce of backlash its can muster.
And before anyone says "Its not fair to hurt the citizens over this!" They voted for these clowns, so they're just as complicit.
A Human Becoming
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You should be.
Justifying religious freedom for discrimination can't be constitutional...can it?
But did you know they have the biggest cross in the world?
Is Jesus short sighted or something? Oh well at least Jesus never made a big scene at the temple about the fact that money and the trappings of wealth have no place in a place of worship, or that wealth itself was a barrier on the road to heaven.
It's probably been said before, but this law seems to violate the first amendment
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
So, in theory can businesses also turn down Moslems or Jews or any other religion? Or is this Bill soley against gay people?
NYCmetsfan
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when first heard a conservative explain the capitalist version of the "eye of the needle" bible verse I didn't know if it was parody or not.
DJ Lushious
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As a Hoosier, I have been utterly sickened by this whole turn of events and I feel so hopeless.
NealMcCauley
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Disgusting. Really hoping someone from Parks and Rec weighs in on this. It may not mean much overall, but I'd love to see a response nonetheless.
RumblingRosco
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But did you know they have the biggest cross in the world?
That's in Illinois.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
People vote based entirely on a candidates religious views. Even if, otherwise the candidate wants to fuck them over.
Deified Data
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Not all of us voted for them. Don't be a fool.
Dang it, I must have been confusing it with the "Miracle Cross" then
lol
Skiptastic
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Only once. What was interesting is that it went to Obama while it overwhelmingly went to Mitch Daniels. Then it elected Joe Donnelly (D) to the Senate while voting for Mitt Romney by 10+%.
The big reason these things happen is that Indianapolis and more liberal areas of the city can have a major effect on statewide elections, while the state legislature is overwhelmingly Republican and a large part of that is rural. It's just all sorts of fucked up.
As someone who lives just north of Indy, I'm sorry to say you're right. It sucks for the city, because the Mayor came out against the bill, as well as almost every major business in the city, but the governor ignored them because he wants to run for president and things this will help him. It's totally the State acting against the interests of the City.
Columbus, OH, would love to have them
(might be redundant with Ohayocon though)Dammit, according to this article, they are under contract to stay until 2020.
Unbelievable. It frightened me that this happened.
What is the similar law in Illinois that the article mentions?
Also, holy fuck at the 40/10 split. Why is Indiana so conservative? I should put that in quotes. This is just fucked up, not true conservatism.
The article I'm talking about: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...iw7-jUngZxOnTjAYg&sig2=G3EI3KS18hmiupvg_BqZoA
Sane. It's really fucking ridiculous.
Random Painted HIghway
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I really enjoyed living in Indianapolis for the four or so years I did, it is a pretty underrated city, the boonies which drive the legislature are to be avoided, some like martinsville are just notorious. I've driven by that effingham cross a hundred times and just shake my head each time. Considering the governor is a former talk radio guy, this is exactly what you'd expect out of their legislative sessions. Hope the ncaa takes action but they are gutless and their agreement is probably quite long lasting with penalties for early withdrawal. http://www.ibj.com/articles/18793-city-ncaa-forge-30-year-event-pact
Tal Shiar Agent
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Let's hope this gets overturned in the Federal courts.
Glad to see the rest of HoosierGAF pissed off in here. I just emailed the governor and my state reps (not that it'll matter). Glad I'll be moving out of the state next year.
This bill could hurt Indy's economy pretty badly if all of these events start pulling out of the city. Which is a shame, because it's actually a pretty nice city considering the rest of the state.
This bill could hurt Indy's economy pretty badly if all of these events start pulling out of the city. Which is a shame, because it's actually a pretty nice city considering the rest of the state.
gutter_trash
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religious beliefs are not individual rights
Skiptastic
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Indiana joins a long list of other states with similar legislation.
Here's hoping all of this gets thrown out by the courts; or at least the stuff that is based on discriminating against folks.
A law professor at IU talked about some of the positive cases that arose from the RFRA, like a Muslim prisoner free to have a short beard and Philly churches being allowed to serve the homeless in city parks. I'm sure those things could have had other legislation that helped them rather than something that could lead to discrimination.
I'm just super disappointed that this is happening (1) at all, (2) when the legislators should be focusing on expanding Indiana business, not enacting things that could restrict it, and (3) during a time when all the eyes of the country are on us with the Final Four. Makes us look backwards, hateful, and unwelcoming. I don't see Indiana that way, especially not the Indy area, so I hate that we had this happen.
BTW, I emailed my state representative after hitting him up on Twitter and have heard nothing back. Big surprise there.
Here's hoping all of this gets thrown out by the courts; or at least the stuff that is based on discriminating against folks.
A law professor at IU talked about some of the positive cases that arose from the RFRA, like a Muslim prisoner free to have a short beard and Philly churches being allowed to serve the homeless in city parks. I'm sure those things could have had other legislation that helped them rather than something that could lead to discrimination.
I'm just super disappointed that this is happening (1) at all, (2) when the legislators should be focusing on expanding Indiana business, not enacting things that could restrict it, and (3) during a time when all the eyes of the country are on us with the Final Four. Makes us look backwards, hateful, and unwelcoming. I don't see Indiana that way, especially not the Indy area, so I hate that we had this happen.
BTW, I emailed my state representative after hitting him up on Twitter and have heard nothing back. Big surprise there.
gutter_trash
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