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Because people keep commenting/asking/complaining about it
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'An All-Male Party Makes Final Fantasy XV 'More Approachable', Says Director
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Because people keep commenting/asking/complaining about it
SolidSnakex
Member
Its funny how in FF the female characters have been consistently better than their male counterparts more recently.
I think Garnet,Yuna,Ashe,Lightning,Fang etc completely outshine the male characters in their games.
FF has a history of doing females a lot better ,but maybe FFXV will finally put together a good male cast.
I think Garnet,Yuna,Ashe,Lightning,Fang etc completely outshine the male characters in their games.
FF has a history of doing females a lot better ,but maybe FFXV will finally put together a good male cast.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I think this ultimately describes my feelings on the matter: for better or for worse Final Fantasy as a franchise has never particularly had a problem with gender representation across pretty much its entire history. Given that they've never shied away from having diverse casts before, I'm inclined to trust them more than I would most when they say that in this particular game an all male cast suits the story they want to tell.
This sounds like their goal. I assume though that English isn't his first language/translation could be involved with making the wording sound very poor.
PfantzyPantz
Member
Considering Cid's design, I don't think he cares about that.
Here's hoping the next FF game consists of an all-female party that wear actual clothes and aren't waifu bait.
This will never happen, and it makes me sad
I think it's because people keep asking for clarification. The answer has been the same every time.
1. This is the story they want to tell.
2. It's an interesting dynamic of brotherhood.
3. Adding a girl into the group changes the dynamic. (guys acting cool and stupid to impress her)
That said repeated clarification, mistranslation, and quotes out of context makes for a delightful game of clickbait telephone.
Yeah I don't understand the "Why is he being defensive comments?" comments. Have you seen the boy band complaints in other threads? But besides that, this is the first FF with an all male cast, and generally other JRPGs tend not to have all male casts either. Some clarification for their choice is not being "defensive".
benicillin
Banned
Headline isn't doing this any favors. Going to just paste the stuff that seems to be getting glossed over so we can get some context:
The theme of male intimacy between the characters could be interesting if it's done well and if he thinks that having an all-male cast is the best way to tell the story then so be it. Still a shame about that Cid design though.
The theme of male intimacy between the characters could be interesting if it's done well and if he thinks that having an all-male cast is the best way to tell the story then so be it. Still a shame about that Cid design though.
I mean, he has a point in this regard. Teens/Young Men, to act a lot differently in the presence of women. Heck, in the demo you can see this whenever they interact with Cindy. If he wants them to act like, friendly relaxed bros, it'd be less realistic to have a female character around most of the time.
People, probably won't take it that way though. <_<;;
People, probably won't take it that way though. <_<;;
But girls ruin everything.
Tetsuya Nomura, the actual CREATOR and Director of the game for 8 years told us why the cast is all-male.
I don't know why Tabata has to even defend this. Do interviewers really think that this is a slight against women?
I don't know why Tabata has to even defend this. Do interviewers really think that this is a slight against women?
Ashe was and will always be my main in FF XII <3
ThreePiMatt
Member
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm interested in a Final Fantasy game for the first time since IX because of the all-male cast. Its bros being bros and broing it out with their bros. Its nice not having hokey romance drama, just bunch of dudes giving each other shit and getting themselves into trouble.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
You're forgetting the amazingness that was Balthier...SHAME
neverknowsbest
Member
Bravo for being a voice of reason in an unreasonable world.
That doesn't really contradict Tabata's statement though.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
Why would you be ashamed? lol
The baity Headline isn't by me btw.
Its by Pushsquare who link back to Gamespot.So I just took their headline and linked directly to Gamespot.
Its by Pushsquare who link back to Gamespot.So I just took their headline and linked directly to Gamespot.
sensui-tomo
Member
Why do people think there are playable characterS there is only 1 and it's Noct.
We are getting to the point where if you don't have a playable female character, you game can be cast in a negative light. The fight for inclusiveness can leave it's mark on a lot of otherwise innocuous projects.
Because it's a final fantasy game and that's never happened before.
Palette Swap
Member
Yeah, it's one of these rare occurrences where I'd actually say an all male cast is actually there to attract a female audience. Not that it makes it great but whatever.
Edit: as far as explanations go, it's way less terrible than the tautological "we wanted three guys because masculinity something something".
Stilton Disco
Member
Whatever they're going for, it failed completely with me. I've never seen a less appealing cast of characters for a Final Fantasy game. Puts me off buying it entirely quite frankly.
Tabata is just following up on Nomura's game design and world concepts. It doesn't contradict anything, but I'm wondering why we're taking this angle against creative freedom, and why Tabata has to word his answers like he's defending his game. He doesn't have to defend anything.
This could be the first Final Fantasy game in decades without a playable female character. It's natural to ask "why's that?" I think the answers so far have been perfectly justified.
Well it certainly makes it the first Final Fantasy i'm not interested in.
In most JRPG's i don't like the main Character, but at least there are other party members that are more sympathic to me. Not in this case though. Has to be the worst party i have ever seen.
But hey, since games i love typically don't do well commercially, I'm sure this one will be a hit.
In most JRPG's i don't like the main Character, but at least there are other party members that are more sympathic to me. Not in this case though. Has to be the worst party i have ever seen.
But hey, since games i love typically don't do well commercially, I'm sure this one will be a hit.
and the Death of the Final Fantasy i loved.
Supermanisdead
Member
I wonder how that audience will react to Cindy lol.
Dr.Thunder
Member
I would agree with him if I didn't absolutely despise the main 4. Feel like I am playing an extremely cliche boy band. Good lord I hate everything about them but the actually design of them is the worst part for me. I really like the gameplay so far so at least there is that going for it.
I kind of assumed their logic behind an all-male cast was actually to attract a more female audience.
All of their press statements for games leading up to this seemed to indicate that they now viewed FF as a female leaning audience, and that their demo polls found that women preferred male characters.
I have no idea if that's actually true or not, nor do I agree with that line of thinking, it's just where I thought their head was at here.
All of their press statements for games leading up to this seemed to indicate that they now viewed FF as a female leaning audience, and that their demo polls found that women preferred male characters.
I have no idea if that's actually true or not, nor do I agree with that line of thinking, it's just where I thought their head was at here.
Altered Juice
Member
they're just pixels bro
Kinda hard to confirm something for a character we know virtually nothing about other than the fact that he has a daughter.
Hey, if you move Noct the other party members move alongside him.
HEHE
The cameraman is a bro too.
BibiMaghoo
Member
If it avoids a Selphie / Rikku / Vanille, then I'm all for it.
TheChillyAcademic
Member
You have a British Sounding man servant that can cook, a crazy younger kid with guns, a hulking goodball with a 6 foot sword, and a batman sounding Prince on the run...
Find a boyband in that for me. Please.
How can you make this judgement when no one knows shit about the characters
I am worried about Luna.I hope they didn't gowngrade her into a damsel in distress who's in love with Noctis.
The adversary part needs to be in the game.Otherwise female characters are getting too marginalized in FFXV.
Yeah.A great female character she was.
He's ok. He's good because of his dynamic with Fran though
Played the demo, hated them.
Ah, this interview. One of my best memories
Maybe I should re-listening the audio. The translation might be slightly different
WickedLaharl
Member
Ah well at least there is a skimpy dressed female NPC that the party will probably have to save, right?
:/
HighResTomato
Member
Makes it one of te few JRPGs I'm interested in, the under aged girls with miniskirts and double d's is revolting.
LOL, it doesn't. The bubblehead is just a guy this time.
Yes. There are still a lot of people who won't give FF10-2 the time of day simply because it is an all female cast with only 3 members.
Which is a shame because FF10-2 is a great game (with a lot of DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMB stuff in it).
Night Angel
Member
I like this direction, and the logic makes sense to me. I don't want every game to have an all-male cast, but I don't see any reason to complain about this. If this is the story they want to tell, I'm down to hear it.
Saying you won't play a game with male PCs is just as stupid as saying you won't play as a female MC. I and many others were able to enjoy FFX2 with no problems; I imagine it's a 2 way street.
VV A perfect example of "LOL DIDN'T READ"
Saying you won't play a game with male PCs is just as stupid as saying you won't play as a female MC. I and many others were able to enjoy FFX2 with no problems; I imagine it's a 2 way street.
VV A perfect example of "LOL DIDN'T READ"
sensui-tomo
Member
It will be the first, he'll it's the first one character only is playable FF, and for the sake of some other side, this evens out ffx-2's female only cast, excluding the changes in international edition.
Really no.