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JohnnyFootball · Mar 30, 2015

In the early day MS emphasized the cloud as something that could improve the gaming experience. It seems like this has yet to manifest itself.

Has MS given up on this approach or is it being used but not being talked about?

mikeGFG · Mar 30, 2015

I mean, Titanfall netcode is on point.

Hubble · Mar 30, 2015

Xbox Video

Otakumegane · Mar 30, 2015

It was never actually meant to be a big deal. Marketing futurespeak.

E92 M3 · Mar 30, 2015

Yes, Microsoft has given up on the "bullshit the customers approach." That said, cloud technology can be potent if utilized correctly.

BibiMaghoo · Mar 30, 2015

Spin.

The cloud exists, but not for those reasons or uses.

Altazor · Mar 30, 2015

The New Blast Processing

Sayers · Mar 30, 2015

They finally realized they weren't fooling anyone so they stopped bothering.

Hockeymac18 · Mar 30, 2015

JohnnyFootball said:
In the early day MS emphasized the cloud as something that could improve the gaming experience. It seems like this has yet to manifest itself.

Has MS given up on this approach or is it being used but not being talked about?

Lets see what crackdown can do before throwing it all out as BS marketing speak.

……forgetit · Mar 30, 2015

It was marketing bullshit, I mean every game this generation is benefiting from cloud servers.

Shuggananas · Mar 30, 2015

bullshit marketing
just like 1080p/60fps :^)

Alx · Mar 30, 2015

JohnnyFootball said:
In the early day MS emphasized the cloud as something that could improve the gaming experience. It seems like this has yet to manifest itself.

Has MS given up on this approach or is it being used but not being talked about?

Last E3 they just replaced it with "dedicated servers" in their speech, and people were happy with that.

Mechazawa · Mar 30, 2015

To be fair, how many games has Microsoft actually released?

Their supposedly big game that utilizes it is supposed to be Crackdown, so we'll see how much server offloading will work when that finally comes out I guess.

JaggedSac · Mar 30, 2015

We will be seeing Crackdown at E3. So we shall see in regards to actual game calculations. As far as game servers, Titanfall uses them to great effect.

Khalifa Jayy · Mar 30, 2015

Beta tests came back (from the future). Results were negative. Cancel the clouds. All of them!

Boombox On · Mar 30, 2015

The cloud-to-butt browser extension.

FZZ · Mar 30, 2015

For some reason this thread made me think of next gen

And then I thought of the next gen console names

Does PS5 sound and look weird as fuck to anyone else? I mean PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 all kinda roll off the tongue and look normal, but PS5 sounds weird as fuck and looks like PSS.

Damn.

Majanew · Mar 30, 2015

We are waiting for the new Crackdown to be shown. It's supposed to show cloud-based destruction.

Blablurn · Mar 30, 2015

FZZpure said:
For some reason this thread made me think of next gen

And then I thought of the next gen console names

Does PS5 sound and look weird as fuck to anyone else? I mean PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 all kinda roll off the tongue and look normal, but PS5 sounds weird as fuck and looks like PSS.

Damn.

I dont agree but I respect your opinion.

Leafhopper · Mar 30, 2015

Convinced a bunch of investors who don't understand technology to invest.

FZZpure said:
For some reason this thread made me think of next gen

And then I thought of the next gen console names

Does PS5 sound and look weird as fuck to anyone else? I mean PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 all kinda roll off the tongue and look normal, but PS5 sounds weird as fuck and looks like PSS.

Damn.

Don't post on GAF high.

kabel · Mar 30, 2015

FZZpure said:
For some reason this thread made me think of next gen

And then I thought of the next gen console names

Does PS5 sound and look weird as fuck to anyone else? I mean PS1, PS2, PS3, and PS4 all kinda roll off the tongue and look normal, but PS5 sounds weird as fuck and looks like PSS.

Damn.

Uhhh...no.

kadotsu · Mar 30, 2015

It's sad that the scalable server infrastructure and nice storage is getting overshadowed by the snakeoil that is cloud GFX processing.

shanafan · Mar 30, 2015

JohnnyFootball said:
In the early day MS emphasized the cloud as something that could improve the gaming experience. It seems like this has yet to manifest itself.

Has MS given up on this approach or is it being used but not being talked about?

"Xbox Record That" process can enable the clip to put on OneDrive, and can watch it from anywhere. I like that feature a lot. I have OneDrive on my PC and MacBook, and nice to watch the clips I record easily.

quickwhips · Mar 30, 2015

The fact that all PS4 and Xbox one games don't have dedicated servers and you can't host servers on your pc at home for console games is sad.

Rawket Lawnchair · Mar 30, 2015

It was complete and utter BS from the get-go.

Lord Kefka · Mar 30, 2015

I think we are starting to see the plan come to life. Party chat now being on dedicated servers is a huge step forward, Halo 5 being all dedicated servers as well, Crackdown is heavily cloud based, and titanfalls online was awesome.....i feel like e3 we may finally see some real evidence of what microsoft can do with it.

protomouse · Mar 30, 2015

It's an interesting concept that hasn't been put into practice AFAIK. Seeing how weaksauce these consoles are processing-wise, it could be an interesting development.

Altazor said:
The New Blast Processing

Blast processing, as silly as the name is, is in fact real and refers to special features of the Mega Drive's DMA controller.

Derpyduck · Mar 30, 2015

The cloud is real, and it's awesome. I wish Bloodborne used a cloud solution for multiplayer. But MS attempted to convince people that the rather large power gap between their hardware and Sony's could be overcome by the nebulous Cloud. It was as hilarious as it was predictable. When used properly, however, it can be a huge plus for games and gamers. Just not in the way MS was attempting to trick people into believing.

ussjtrunks · Mar 30, 2015

~It Floated Away~

FonkyByNature · Mar 30, 2015

Right now, yeah i think it's bullshit as it doesn't mean much. But in the future when internet gets better for everyone, then the term can make sense.

As for online play, PS4 does as good of a job as Xbox One for games running on dedicated servers. Titanfall has a good netcode once in a game but the whole process of getting in a game is still too long for my taste.

I don't know, when gaming i don't see a difference between PS4 and Xbox One for online games. Streaming is another story though...

quickwhips · Mar 30, 2015

FonkyByNature said:
Right now, yeah i think it's bullshit as it doesn't mean much. But in the future when internet gets better for everyone, then the term can make sense.

As for online play, PS4 does as good of a job as Xbox One for games running on dedicated servers. Titanfall has a good netcode once in a game but the whole process of getting in a game is still too long for my taste.

I don't know, when gaming i don't see a difference between PS4 and Xbox One for online games. Streaming is another story though...

What PS4 and Xbox One games have dedicated servers? I would think the list is small.

fedexpeon · Mar 30, 2015

Cloud servers always exist.
And as always, PR and Marketing job is to cover the wool over consumers and creating more sheep for their brand.
People just don't understand technology.
Just look at the DX12 old thread....some people still believe that hardware will magically update itself.
It is like the 90s once again where TV ads were telling people that they can download more rams for their PC.

InSpectre · Mar 30, 2015

Rawket Lawnchair said:
It was complete and utter BS from the get-go.

Yep. Nothing happened because there was nothing in the first place.

weekev · Mar 30, 2015

It rained

Bob White · Mar 30, 2015

It was all bullshit, thats what.

Poodlestrike · Mar 30, 2015

They stopped talking about it because everyone kept freaking out whenever the phrase was spoken, but they're still working on it. Crackdown is apparently going to be the first game implementing it.

nelsonroyale · Mar 30, 2015

It really was nebulous

semiconscious · Mar 30, 2015

i think it was always a bit more 'fog' than 'cloud'. or maybe just 'pollution'

...

pants · Mar 30, 2015

reality happened

kabel · Mar 30, 2015

also:

cakely · Mar 30, 2015

It was marketing word salad that didn't survive contact with reality.

GreatestHits · Mar 30, 2015

I was gonna say reality happened. Now what.

MS is full of shit this gen :/

I find it disheartening and suprising that so many people take them seriously, especially after exposing themselves as a bunch of goons out to get your money that probably spit at the TV screen when they see a videogame commercial

Gamezone · Mar 30, 2015

"The power of the cloud" was PR they used because Xbox One is less powerful than the Playstation 4. Forza 5 drivatars and Titanfall bots was nothing special. Maybe Crackdown 3 will bring something to the table, but I won`t buy that anyway, because the game would be online required.

Mark Cerny also said that using the "cloud" to boost up the quality of the graphics doesn`t work. Anyway, they stopped using it after Phil Spencer became boss.

watership · Mar 30, 2015

The power of the cloud push was largely marketing, but the actual cloud and azure service that Xbox Live uses are not.

Hockeymac18 · Mar 30, 2015

watership said:
The power of the cloud push was largely marketing, but the actual cloud and azure service that Xbox Live uses are not.

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flkraven · Mar 30, 2015

Crackdown is their last chance to prove it is capable of doing anything regarding in-game processing. I think Titanfall's AI worked in the cloud or something...and Drivatars?

Anth0ny · Mar 30, 2015

it's almost like it was always bullshit

Abinash117 · Mar 30, 2015

I don't think so; Fable Legends, Crackdown, and possibly the new Forza(drivatars) might still use the 'cloud' stuff. Other games are using the dedicated servers like Halo 5. They talk about it less, but still talk about it.

BibiMaghoo · Mar 30, 2015

Mechazawa said:
To be fair, how many games has Microsoft actually released?

Their supposedly big game that utilizes it is supposed to be Crackdown, so we'll see how much server offloading will work when that finally comes out I guess.

The funny thing about this is, that Crackdown isn't using MS's cloud service at all. They have partnered with Cloudgine to provide the service.

Gestault · Mar 30, 2015

The back-end cloud functions on the XB1 have been solid, and have made a lot of things simpler with the new system. Are you talking about making graphics better? Yeah, that's not something we saw. Playing that up at any point was a silly talking point. We know there are some things that work with distributed computing (like big world-event physics displays or a large volume of stand-in player behavior profiles), but those are the extent of the "in-game" advantages we'll see. The service aspect of it is good though. General dev access to easy-to-spin-up dedicated servers alone is a good thing.

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