i've been a console gamer all my life, which means i've slowly been introduced to analogue sticks naturally. and so they're second nature to me. but i have a friend who wants to play couch co-op games with me and he's a long time PC player. are there any good simple games that would help him get to grips with analogue stick us quickly, maybe games that arn't as frantic but still require similar movement to an FPS?. or is it just a case of picking a favorite FPS and playing through a few times, even if it might be a rough start for him?
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Good transitional games going from PC to console
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I still have trouble moving and aiming at the same time.
jacob armitage
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I explained to a friend making a similar transition ages ago that generally the left stick was like wsad and the right stick was like the mouse, he said that helped.
Recidivus Crimen
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Maybe Minecraft?
Poimandres
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Oh man... going from PC straight to Killzone 2 sounds like enough to turn someone off dual analogue fps for life!
Enter the Dragon Punch
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Try a game like Super Mario 3D World
That game was so awesome and immersive, I just had to adapt.
Radec made me a better man. I think it took an hour.
Poimandres
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But the Dual Shock 3 is awful for FPS games AND that game has crazy weighty controls.
Jaded Alyx
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You usually don't have any real reason to use the right stick in SM3DW.
which was mainly due to Input lag
Poimandres
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Exactly why Killzone 2 is one of the absolute worst games I can think of to teach a PC gamer how to play on a console!
I'd say something like Halo or, as other people have said, Portal. Third person shooters are good ideas as well.
he wants to play all sorts. from isometric action RPG's like diablo 3, to FPS's. he kinda struggles even with racers though, although it was his first time. and the last console he had was before analogue sticks, he's been a PC gamer since. playing mainly MMO's. he's quite out of the loop, but he wants that couch co-op experience.
we started playing some co-op over weekend and he did improve slightly, but he's quite a way off from playing borderlands or something without it frustrating him. maybe it's just a case of being patient and jumping in at the deep end with him.
MADGAME
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Which console? The Last of Us Remaster could be an option. The game requires stealth and calculated, methodical moving and planning. A lot of time is spent crouching behind cover listening to position enemies, moving to the next cover, etc. These movements will require right thumbstick movement to control camera and left stick for movement, all while being relatively safe from danger (in most circumstances) until you as the player are ready to make your move to start the action or encounter in-game. Additionally you don't have to use weapons, melee is a huge part of the game so the dependence on right-stick aiming can be minimal while the player gets acclimated to the controller.
Amentallica
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Axiom Verge. Awesome 2D-metroidvania game. Can aim in all directions so both analog sticks are utilized. Not as difficult and immersive as a full 3D world with other players, so it's a good starting point.
It was mainly due to the acceleration used while aiming.
Not what I would have thought of first, but this is a really good option.
In Halo 3 I forced my little cousin to chase after me in co-op to make him better at dual stick controls. I ran a really intricate path around the forest at the beginning of the game, telling him to keep on my heels. You get really immersed when you're chasing after someone, 'tag' style, and get used to controls quickly.
Yes. Killzone 2 had very slow aim acceleration, it was nothing to do with 'input lag'.
TylerDurden4321
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Maybe I'm completely wrong, but I think the story went a little like this:
- FPSs got big on PC in the 90's.
- Publishers wanted FPSs on console, because of less piracy.
- Early multi-platform shooters played like shit on console compared to the PC release.
- COVER BASED shooters became a big thing with Gears of War.
- Gamepad shooter-controls got better and many FPSs were made with consoles as their primary platform.
- People got better and more comfortable with these more sophisticated controls.
no the game also had a shit tonne of input lag... it wasn't just in movement acceleration. it was in actions you perform, shooting melee etc. The input lag and the intentional weightiness are separate things. the input lag just made the game feel unresponsive.
basic_text
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Definitely this. It's the game that helped my wife into twin sticks. Then she progressed to Borderlands without a hitch.
Portal 2, the thread:
- Godlike porting
- Free steam version of the same game
- Cross platform multiplayer
- Free DLC
- They even ported the exclusive hydra controller levels with move support.
Poimandres
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You kind of got your steps mixed up. The dual stick FPS control scheme was well and truly set before Gears launched (see: Halo)
Now you mention it, I do remember there was a delay for hitting a button to do stuff - climb over walls, pick things up, etc.
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