ShadowKingpin
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EDIT: NYT Article
EDIT #2: I have noticed that almost all of you disagree with the Anti-GMO community.
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Chipotle Is Now 100% GMO-Free
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The Verge
EDIT: NYT Article
EDIT #2: I have noticed that almost all of you disagree with the Anti-GMO community.
The food will taste the same and be no more or less safer but it will make people feel safer and believe it tastes better.
ShadowKingpin
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I have always enjoyed their food. XD
Freedom = $1.05
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and no one will taste the difference.
shadyspace
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Millennials are the worst.
Thats how America buys it's food. The public is woefully uneducated in science and nutrition so they just buy based off what they think they like, and companies follow suit.
Unfounded paranoia and a lucrative cottage industry based on fear and pseudoscience.
Not any more than it already is. All it will do is make their food more expensive due to the extra costs involved in purchasing non gmo seeds and the reduced harvest due to less effective pest control. In other words Non-GMO folk are the same as anti-vaxxers. Testing has shown them to be completely safe and the only valid reason i could see for not wanting them are because Monsanto are giant assholes.
Corporations are the problem, because they're corporations, and they're corporationy.
donkey show
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But when will the carnitas come back? :O
entremet
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Well the EU fell for it.
Now when I have a hunger for really crappy burritos I can rest assured my DNA won't mutate into some kind of pork-bean hybrid!
GMO's aren't the problem, but GMO companies are often involved in legal fuckery that hurts farmers (the wind blew seeds into your plot! lawsuit lawsuit!) or they've done really creepy things like trying to patent pig DNA. Can you imagine if corporations owned specific breeds of dogs and you needed a license to own one or if they naturally bred you've infringed on their copyright? That's pretty much what they were trying to do with pigs.
So separating the beneficial results of their work from the stupid shit they do on the side is tough, in the scientifically ignorant court of public opinion.
GMO's aren't the problem, but GMO companies are often involved in legal fuckery that hurts farmers (the wind blew seeds into your plot! lawsuit lawsuit!) or they've done really creepy things like trying to patent pig DNA. Can you imagine if corporations owned specific breeds of dogs and you needed a license to own one or if they naturally bred you've infringed on their copyright? That's pretty much what they were trying to do with pigs.
So separating the beneficial results of their work from the stupid shit they do on the side is tough, in the scientifically ignorant court of public opinion.
entremet
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I stopped going when they axed them.
Aren't companies in Europe required to put a GMO label on all foods that contain genetically modified ingredients? Not sure it is fair to say this fear/mistrust of GMOs is an America only thing.
shadyspace
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Yes, for a good while the US was actually the ones looking good on an issue.
balladofwindfishes
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I don't believe anything at all.
I can't see how there would be, it's basically just taking years of selective breeding and skipping the middle man by just using technology to hit the same end goal. I'm pretty sure most GMO benefits could be achieved by selective breeding over several years/decades, but why bother?
Trojita
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Noticeable problems are problems with the patents and ability for a seed to hopskip to another farmers land, the seed will likely be more resistant than the other crops and take over the land. The farmer could be brought to court over this.
What the EU fell for is not science it's a form of protectionist policy. The farmers fight against GMO food because they don't want to have to buy the seeds and they can't compete against them without convincing people they are dangerous.
The only major case I have seen on this actually proved that the farmer involved knew what he was doing. It wasn't an accident at all. It could happen but they have yet to bring someone up who was completely in the dark.
Why?
Fear of the Big Evil Corporate boogeyman is stronger and more widespread in the EU than it is in America, where it only occupies a part of the populace (the other part being terrified of Big Evil Government boogeyman).
It's fantastic for their corporate brand. Chipotle knows its consumer base, and understands that a large segment don't care either way, and a small segment care somewhat to a great deal about having GMO-free foods.
Why are you happy over this?
RumblingRosco
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Good business decision, but fuck, I hate science illiteracy.
jackissocool
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My eyes are rolling out of my head.
Literally any other anti-corporate environmental issue would be more important than GMOs, which are actually good. People need to stop wasting their time and energy on this and focus on monoculture, unsustainable water use, fertilizer runoff, overfishing, water pollution, air pollution... anything but fucking GMOs.
Literally any other anti-corporate environmental issue would be more important than GMOs, which are actually good. People need to stop wasting their time and energy on this and focus on monoculture, unsustainable water use, fertilizer runoff, overfishing, water pollution, air pollution... anything but fucking GMOs.
Vincent Grayson
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This better not be why there's no more carnitas.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Baka Sempai
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I can't believe people are happy over this.
Using non-GMO is just a marketing gimmick to increase prices :/
To the uniformed consumer it just looks like "Oh look, chipotle does care"
Using non-GMO is just a marketing gimmick to increase prices :/
To the uniformed consumer it just looks like "Oh look, chipotle does care"
depths20XX
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As someone who loves eating GMO's, I won't be eating at Chipotle anymore.
Oh, people will taste the difference. Or at least, they will believe they do.
They're wrong about this specific thing, but are we suggesting that purveyors of some other fast food chain are much smarter and more intelligent, on average?
biggersmaller
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Many realize this is marketing - which is fine for Chipotle. What isn't fine is people ignoring the water and energy savings in producing GMO food. That's not to say all GMO food is free of criticism, however nobody would want some 100% GMO-free law applied to all foods if they knew the consequences.
No there are no carnitas due to them being unable to find "ethically" sourced pork. Basically pigs are expensive to raise and most companies bred and raise them in pretty poor conditions because it's difficult to make a profit on them. They probably just can't find a source large enough to support the chain that falls within their guidelines.
There really isn't any criticism for the food itself though it's perfectly safe. The criticism should focus on the companies selling it and how shitty they are. However due to our terrible patent system we don't have a lot we can do. Europe should just not allow the companies to act as they do here but instead they support the anti scientific protectionist movement.
God Dayumm
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Correct if I'm wrong, but organic fruit and veggies are actually more harmful, especially when not in season, because they have to spray them with a bunch of toxic shit to survive?
biggersmaller
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Junior Mint
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Will it cost more?
HazySaiyan
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Ugghhh... ignorance triumphs once again.
Most GMO seeds should have a terminator gene in them so the second generation of seeds don't proliferate, which makes this unlikely. Of course, they don't, because people thought it was yet another boogeyman.
I thought that was the point of being "organic" - that they don't spray them with ANYTHING?
Sprayed with "natural" pesticides is fine, but not synthetic pesticides. Got it. Dumb.
I'm oddly OK with this if their reasoning for not having it is because they're trying to get decently raised pigs.
While I will eat animals that aren't raised in the best of conditions, if I CAN get it from a place that doesn't treat the animals like shit, I'll do that first. I'm OK with being a hypocrite, since I'll eat the other meat, too.
biggersmaller
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Including your point, criticisms would include impact on the bee population, lack of biodiversity, abuse of intellectual property laws. Again, GMO food isn't bad - production can be at times.
They don't spray them with anything "synthetic". A lot of organic food is just sprayed with shitloads of "natural" pesticides that are actually worse.
Eighty Deuce
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Where can I buy some?
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