Ban Puncher
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Can EA continue using FIFAs toxic brand?
- Thread starter Gowans
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Is this thread some kind of joke? Having the world cup in winter in Qatar and all the news about slave labour haven't damaged the brand one iota, and people actually think a little bit of barely-publicised corruption is enough for EA to consider dumping their best selling series?
Is this thread a joke?
Is this thread a joke?
Handy Fake
Member
Also this, by the way, back on topic.
There's too much money there, unless FIFA finally collapses in on itself and someone finally makes a breakaway body.
I do understand where you're coming from, but I think you're underestimating just how the populace at large feel about FIFA. The outpouring of virtual cheering when the news broke today is nothing you'd get if it was any other corporation.
By and large, football is akin to a religion for many, many people. Myself included.
FIFA was something we just had to put up with until Blatter/Platini were either deposed or died, hehe.
I'm not dismissing how big Football is (sorry Americans lol), in certain countries it's like a religion as you say.
I'm just doubting that the personal feelings of FIFA as a brand will effect how the games sell, and whether EA will lose the branding.
It would take a lot more than what was put under the spotlight today for EA to remove the branding, and for people to stop buying the games.
Here's another way to look at it, because of what happened today do you think people won't watch the next "FIFA" World Cup in 2018? Or go and watch the matches?
They will not only going to see it breh! They will buy large ass TV, they will buy plane tickets, they will buy the shirt of their fave country, etc...
Handy Fake
Member
Aye, I've addressed the more on topic stuff above. Mind, like I say, I think it's more that we've had to put up with it, rather than ignored it.
I think the 2018 World Cup will have it's own significant amount of problems with Putin having some weird homophobia drive than anything else.
But that leads back to the question - why would the governing body of a sport that is meant to be inherent in promoting anti-racial and anti-homophobic sentiment happy to send the World Cup to Russia and Qatar..?
I can see a lot of these deals collapsing if Blatter ever gets fingered.
Sorry for the dragging off topic a bit, I get a bit ranty and heated on the subject, hehe.
Exactly,
But according to some peoples logic they certainly won't. If what's happened today is enough for people to suddenly stop buying a computer game with FIFA branding, surely they won't support FIFA by watching matches of a tournament arranged by FIFA, and they certainly won't go and support FIFA by paying money to watch their respective countries play.
MrCunningham
Member
Toxic doesn't cancel out toxic the last time I checked.
As someone mentioned before: People hate the Fifa leadership, but people love the sport. Most people. See the value in having an organization like FIFA, but they also see the problem with the management of it.
Will it have negative effects on EA? Probably not, people still love the sport, even though they might hate the custodian, just like how some people are unhappy with the NBA, NFL etc.
Will it have negative effects on EA? Probably not, people still love the sport, even though they might hate the custodian, just like how some people are unhappy with the NBA, NFL etc.
GHG
Gold Member
Well I don't and I've been following football for as long as I can remember. Neither do my colleagues.
It surprises me that people suddenly care so much about this shit. There is corruption everywhere, every walk of life. Fifa has always been know to be corrupt, so why this is suddenly a big deal to some people I really don't know.
Internet gonna internet.
machemachete
Banned
People who likes to play the FIFA games shouldnt care about the real life football and feel "ashamed" for what happened.
Fun things are fun.
Fun things are fun.
>-Baron-Spamedi-<
Member
Er wut?
Do you think all those kids waiting to play their favourite teams against their pals, or waiting to collect their favourite players in FUT give two shits about all the swindling and whatnot ?
They don't.
GlamFM
Banned
Why do you think that?
rrvv
Member
Most people only recognize FIFA as "Big football organization". Then dont care how the company work and who run it.
I mean if you say "did you know FIFA is corrupt?" their reaction probably "Oh really?" then go back playing/watching football.
GlamFM
Banned
I think you are completely wrong.
MWS Natural
Member
Their "toxic brand" doesn't seem to be hurting the bottom line too much.
EA announces record setting performance.
Handy Fake
Member
I think every bugger with even a modicum of interest in football are well aware of FIFA's - how shall we say - 'eccentricities'.
Like I've been saying, having to put up with something is completely different from not caring about it.
gunslikewhoa
Member
EA will sell exactly zero fewer copies of FIFA because of this.
Megatron
Member
Except in America where it equals soccer.
I dont think today's events will change anything.
SprachBrooks
Member
News at 10, huge companies/corporations still make money whilst being unethical lol.
Theonik
Member
Getting the branding involves paying these people. Also the brand is harmed by such controversy. The question lies elsewhere.
Hans.Gruber
Banned
For every non-fan of the beatiful game:
Every year there are tens of scandals just like that. On an organization and club level.
Example:
Barcelona = currently on a transfer ban because of mistreating underage talents
Juventus = matchfixing and ref bribing scandal in 2006, were relegated to Serie B
Will anybody NOT watch the ChamionsLeague Final because of that?
Yea, thats what I thought. As soon as the next WC kicks off, we will all have forgotten this little episode
Every year there are tens of scandals just like that. On an organization and club level.
Example:
Barcelona = currently on a transfer ban because of mistreating underage talents
Juventus = matchfixing and ref bribing scandal in 2006, were relegated to Serie B
Will anybody NOT watch the ChamionsLeague Final because of that?
Yea, thats what I thought. As soon as the next WC kicks off, we will all have forgotten this little episode
RockTurtle
Member
oh snap...
Beta Stage
Neo Member
Well for all we know, EA might be one of the companies that have been bribing FIFA for years. If it comes out that that is the case then FIFA, the game, might go bye-bye.
stan423321
Member
Our national soccer organization as itself has terrible public opinion due to being extremely shady etc., soccer fans don't care. These guys don't sell merch with their name though, but still.
Besides I think FIFA game would stay with FIFA name even if actual FIFA changed it.
Besides I think FIFA game would stay with FIFA name even if actual FIFA changed it.
GlamFM
Banned
Theonik
Member
That is down to the investigators to uncover of course. But would it really surprise you if EA bribed FIFA officials to keep in favourable terms with using the FIFA brand?
Edit: Consider this, PES had an advantage when it came to gameplay for a while before they turned to shit but what always kept them from truly taking over EA's market was the FIFA brand and lesser access to licensing. From EA's perspective, bribing FIFA officials to keep it this way would be a no brainer.
What I don't get about this whole situation is that most people don't go "No shit." in reply.
I mean, FIFA has been known as absurdly corrupt for years.
GlamFM
Banned
It actually would, yes.
Voysa Reezun
Banned
Of course they can, TC. It's sports, so no one cares. Everyone wants to just play as their favorite team and favorite players, and EA/FIFA hold the licenses.
Sepp Blatter could kill a puppy, hand it to Roger Goodell, and have Goodell barbecue and eat it on live television, and Madden and FIFA would still sell by the buttload. People really don't care about anything but their entertainment when it comes to sports in many cultures.
Sepp Blatter could kill a puppy, hand it to Roger Goodell, and have Goodell barbecue and eat it on live television, and Madden and FIFA would still sell by the buttload. People really don't care about anything but their entertainment when it comes to sports in many cultures.
Handy Fake
Member
Champions League is UEFA, not FIFA. I'm aware they're the top governing body, but there's a difference.
EDIT: And the individual teams are peanuts compared to this.
Hans.Gruber
Banned
You don't know the difference between bribing and out-bidding.
Anyways, the juicy exclusive rights EA has over Konami are Premier League and Bundesliga (biggest football markets in Europe).
nortonff
Hi, I'm nortonff. I spend my life going into threads to say that I don't care about the topic of the thread. It's a really good use of my time.
I'm not. Play it every day. Love it.
GlamFM
Banned
Outbidding ≠ Bribing.
Theonik
Member
You don't actually know if it was just that.
Wait for the receipts. Or something.
GlamFM
Banned
You don´t know anything either.
Maybe you should wait before accusing EA of being criminal - No? Maybe?
Hans.Gruber
Banned
You are right of course, but I just wanted to illustrate how nobody cares about scandals in football. And in the case of Juve-Barca we are talking about scandals that affected the actual competition. This corruption scandal won't matter in 2 weeks.
FIFA has a couple of fall guys from poor countries and will find new ways to be a corrupt pile of crap.
hate against corruption < love for the game
Theonik
Member
Nobody is making any accusations.
GlamFM
Banned
Theonik
Member
That's not an accusation. What it means is that it would make business sense on EA's part to become involved in this. This is actually pretty common in most industries.
GlamFM
Banned
As is outbidding your competitor...