Eh, promotion was a bit dense, but there is a 0% chance that Bungie was in charge of the code system. Considering they're printed on Red Bull cans, and need to be redeemed on Red Bull's website for what is essentially a new, second code that is then redeemed on Bungie.net, I think the code issues are all on Red Bull or whatever third party they handed this off to.
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Destiny Red Bull codes apparently had a ton of them compromised. The legend grows.
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Eh, promotion was a bit dense, but there is a 0% chance that Bungie was in charge of the code system. Considering they're printed on Red Bull cans, and need to be redeemed on Red Bull's website for what is essentially a new, second code that is then redeemed on Bungie.net, I think the code issues are all on Red Bull or whatever third party they handed this off to.
Souldestroyer Reborn
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SuperDowns
Banned
This is the BEST scenario that could have happened from this. I am so amused. Also, fuck Red Bull. Just period.
Also,
DAMN, that is first reply material right there! Bravo!
Also,
DAMN, that is first reply material right there! Bravo!
Hmm, I almost felt sorry for folks who bought cans of this crap just for the promotion....
Then I realized they are endorsing some ridiculous behavior and and lost all simpathy...
It's a shame Red Bull got some extra sales, and Bungie some cross marketing revenue out of the deal... The only folks who lose anything are the brainwashed consumers...
Then I realized they are endorsing some ridiculous behavior and and lost all simpathy...
It's a shame Red Bull got some extra sales, and Bungie some cross marketing revenue out of the deal... The only folks who lose anything are the brainwashed consumers...
I'd like to feel bad for someone in this scenario, but it's difficult.
Companies that rip content out of an already content light game in a marketing deal to get people to buy a shitty energy drink? Nope, I can't do it.
The people who buy said shitty energy drink to get a code and support this sort of thing? Again, it's tough.
I genuinely feel bad that I can't feel bad, hopefully that counts for something.
Companies that rip content out of an already content light game in a marketing deal to get people to buy a shitty energy drink? Nope, I can't do it.
The people who buy said shitty energy drink to get a code and support this sort of thing? Again, it's tough.
I genuinely feel bad that I can't feel bad, hopefully that counts for something.
Noisepurge
Member
Yeah i agree, even if your code is used you can just generate a new one.
This exploit was posted on Reddit several days before the thread here on GAF. GAF didn't help though.
Yea, I don't feel bad for anyone on this one. The idea behind the promotion was terrible, the execution of the promotion was awful, and the people who supported it are just enabling bungie and Activision to keep shitting on consumers. Sometimes people get exactly what they deserve.
it was posted on destiny reddit forum and bungie forums first.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
So that's how that wizard came from the moon
NullPointer
Member
Pretty much. Its a crappy promotion made worse by being attached to $40 DLC in an expensive and yet content starved game.
It was a bad idea from the get-go.
Yeah, it's not possible. I bought two cans, and the second code didn't work. I have no way of proving either code actually belonged to me unless someone from Activision asks me to mail them the can... which I no longer have.
This is fast becoming a cluster. Activision/Redbull need to figure out how to solve this quick before too many legit patrons get hosed.
I think the best course of action is to ease multiple-use restrictions for codes and then put a cap on the amount of XP one individual can redeem. They will lose out on some significant sales if they do this, but that's better than having a completely comprimised promotion and not addressing it.
Someone really did not plan out the code generation process on the Activision/Red Bull side. I'm betting they knowingly compromised the complexity in order to roll out this promotion cheaper/faster than they normally could. Great example of underestimating the Internet.
Everyone is taking a bite of this shit sandwich.
So if someone showed you this trick in the 80's, that would make you a grown man who steals?
I think the best course of action is to ease multiple-use restrictions for codes and then put a cap on the amount of XP one individual can redeem. They will lose out on some significant sales if they do this, but that's better than having a completely comprimised promotion and not addressing it.
Someone really did not plan out the code generation process on the Activision/Red Bull side. I'm betting they knowingly compromised the complexity in order to roll out this promotion cheaper/faster than they normally could. Great example of underestimating the Internet.
Everyone is taking a bite of this shit sandwich.
So if someone showed you this trick in the 80's, that would make you a grown man who steals?
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Wow you'll last long here. FYI people can buy whatever they feel like and shouldn't have to deal with some sweaty nerd who spends their days bitching on the internet stealing what they paid for. That's the issue. You didn't buy the can nor the code. Just because you don't condone the things people spend their money on doesn't mean they deserve to get fucked because of scummy people on an Internet forum using their code first.
NowhereFaded
Member
GAF goin gaffle!!
It was going to be free at the end of the year anyways.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
So people who willingly wanted to support this deserve to be robbed? Okay then
Aztechnology
Member
This thread highlights a problem: people want to have simple, one sided opinions. It seems impossible for most to see and accept both sides of the coin
Heads: using codes you did are no legitimately allowed to own and in return screw over legit owners over is wrong and actually constitutes theft
Tails: it's Red Bull's fault for coming up with a code system so ridiculously easy you can crack it by simply buying a 24 crate and laying out the tabs. In under 5 minutes.
Both sides of the coin exist. It's what makes the complete coin. One does not relativise or nullify the other.
Heads: using codes you did are no legitimately allowed to own and in return screw over legit owners over is wrong and actually constitutes theft
Tails: it's Red Bull's fault for coming up with a code system so ridiculously easy you can crack it by simply buying a 24 crate and laying out the tabs. In under 5 minutes.
Both sides of the coin exist. It's what makes the complete coin. One does not relativise or nullify the other.
Dr. Black Jack
Member
stealing is just, like, an opinion maaaaaaan
Aztechnology
Member
Let's clear the record here. Nobody wanted to buy a can of redbull to get a code for an exclusive quest. They had three options, 1. Buy a Redbull. 2. Wait a few months 3. Game the system (Steal).
Activision and Bungie didn't exactly make it a tough call for people to take option three with their terrible handling of pretty much everything they've ever done with Destiny.
I wouldn't say what people did or did not want to do, speak for yourself...
Aztechnology
Member
You said, legitimately. "Oh man exclusive quest pay gated behind a Redbull Redbull can. I can't wait to buy one" ?
As someone who already drinks Redbull, as soon as I heard about this promotion I got excited. I even was able to snag a couple codes for my friends overseas. I esp see no problem with this cause everyone's getting the quest, if you don't want to buy a Redbull just wait it out.
WrenchNinja
Member
What's even in this quest anyway?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Disappointment and regret
so destiny is not only ruining gamers lives but now ruining innocent bystanders?
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Glad you can speak for everyone who voted with their dollar to support this!!!!
Real talk: Society can't handle grey areas. It has to be black and white. It's why we can't understand why the confederate flag shouldn't fly at a state capitol, but it's fine for Dukes of Hazzard to air on TV.
Real talk: lol at that random comparison and broad conclusions. Some expert level sociology analysis up in here.
Well I was just using recent events. I mean isn't that how everything is lately? In everything, politics, video games, etc.
It's either this, or it's that. Nothing inbetween.
SaganIsGOAT
Junior Member
Either you bought the can to get a code because you wanted to, or you stole a code like an asshole because it was easy to. This is either or.
If this is one of those meta jokes you hip kids make it's going right over my head.
If you're serious then no, it's not like that. And in this case it's pretty funny to say a shady business practice makes stealing alright.
SamusPrime
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Man, I haven't played Destiny, but all the drama surrounding it has created some absolute comedic gold which is more than likely more fun than the game itself.
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