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Robinspain
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(06-26-2006, 06:57 PM)
UK PSP MAGAZINE reveals VERY INTERESTING details:

- PSP eye toy: will be out this september in Europe (US: tba)

- GPS: will be out this october along with a new Everybody's Golf (it will be compatible). The GPS will determine your localization and could download exclusive content depending the area where you are. Kutaragi also says that there are (now) some psp titles that are compatible with this future periferic (...how misterious...)

- A new firmware the same day PS3 launches: video-conferency, ps3 compatibility, video streaming (possibility of download these videos on your memory stick)

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SON (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.
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SolidSnakex
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(06-26-2006, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SOF (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.


o_O

Fantastic choice of games.
quetz67
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(06-26-2006, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Robinspain

UK PSP MAGAZINE reveals VERY INTERESTING details:

- PSP eye toy: will be out this september in Europe (US: tba)

- GPS: will be out this october along with a new Everybody's Golf (it will be compatible). The GPS will determine your localization and could download exclusive content depending the area where you are. Kutaragi also says that there are (now) some psp titles that are compatible with this future periferic (...how misterious...)

- A new firmware the same day PS3 launches: video-conferency, ps3 compatibility, video streaming (possibility of download these videos on your memory stick)

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SOF (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.

All nice, but I wait for a redesign with HDD or build in flash drive, TV-Out and a movie service like iTunes.
Wollan
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(06-26-2006, 06:59 PM)
Castlevania and SH for PSP day one? That's some heavy stuff.
Y2Kev
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(06-26-2006, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain

UK PSP MAGAZINE reveals VERY INTERESTING details:

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SOF (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.

SOF?

Is that SotN?

That is a FANTASTIC launch lineup for PS emulator, but I doubt the believability. No Ridge Racer?
Dimmuxx
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(06-26-2006, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SOF (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.


Fake? No riiiiiiiidge raceeer? :lol

Great games though.
Mmmkay
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(06-26-2006, 07:00 PM)
Putting out FF7&8 from the start has to mean they're remastering these titles I guess, right?
SolidSnakex
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(06-26-2006, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

SOF?

Is that SotN?

That is a FANTASTIC launch lineup for PS emulator, but I doubt the believability. No Ridge Racer?

That's probably just a few that'll be there. I'd think Ridge, a Gran Turismo and MGS will be at launch also.
Guns N' Poops
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(06-26-2006, 07:00 PM)
I can't imagine how Eyetoy PSP will work.
Mmmkay
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(06-26-2006, 07:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Guns N' Poops

I can't imagine how Eyetoy PSP will work.

You'll just use your fingers/hand instead of your body.
Neo Child
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(06-26-2006, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mmmkay

You'll just use your fingers/hand instead of your body.

But wont your fingers/hands be used to hold the console?
..pakbeka..
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(06-26-2006, 07:05 PM)
what about those games that need all 4 shoulder buttons?


and will they release Rockman DASH emulated on the psp AGAIN? :lol
DemDereNads
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(06-26-2006, 07:05 PM)
Wow, that PS1 emulator lineup is too good to be true!
AdmiralViscen
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(06-26-2006, 07:06 PM)
You're gonna need pretty massive MemorySticks to play the FF games.
Mmmkay
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(06-26-2006, 07:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Neo Child

But wont your fingers/hands be used to hold the console?

Yes, they should put a disclaimer that war veterans' gaming experiences may be impaired. Two hands are essential, one to hold the PSP and the other to play with it...
Neo Child
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(06-26-2006, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by AdmiralViscen

You're gonna need pretty massive MemorySticks to play the FF games.

How many discs was FF7? 3/4? Thats 700MB each. 2GB :|
MoxManiac
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(06-26-2006, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by AdmiralViscen

You're gonna need pretty massive MemorySticks to play the FF games.

Well, if they reencoded the FMVs to something like the PSP's video format it might not be so bad.

Originally Posted by Neo Child

How many discs was FF7? 3/4? Thats 700MB each. 2GB :|

Without FMVs, FF7 could probably fit on one disc. Most, if not all the non-FMV data is duplicated on each disc.
Wollan
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(06-26-2006, 07:09 PM)
I guess games can be bought and stored on the PS3 aswell with you only having a cd on your psp memory stick at a time if you so whish.
soul creator
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(06-26-2006, 07:09 PM)
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7,000 titles?
Neo Child
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(06-26-2006, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by soul creator

7,000 titles?

Thats what the thread says. Was there even 7000 PS1 games?
Y2Kev
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(06-26-2006, 07:10 PM)
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The discs were filled with redundant data. The only difference between the discs, if I remember correctly, was FMV.

They could easily slice it down to a manageable size. 1gb will still be essential.
Chiggs
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(06-26-2006, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain

- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SON (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.


Oh shit....
Jim
(06-26-2006, 07:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by Neo Child

How many discs was FF7? 3/4? Thats 700MB each. 2GB :|

Well, a ton of the actual content on each of the discs is exactly the same (the general world, enemy, audio data, etc). They need to replicate that basic data for each disc as to avoid swapping discs for the silliest things, such as visiting previous areas.

A downloadable file would have only have one copy of that data, which would make it substantially smaller. It's absolutely doable.

(edit: beaten by Y2Kevbug11)
u_neek
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(06-26-2006, 07:12 PM)

Originally Posted by SolidSnakex

o_O

Fantastic choice of games.

Yeah, so Sony is developing like 5-6000 new PSOne titles?
Eric_S
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(06-26-2006, 07:12 PM)
@Neo Child

Including all the C-class ones, over 10 000, IIRC.
Neo Child
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(06-26-2006, 07:13 PM)
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Random factoid:
Did you know that the smallest ROM image ever created + modified was non other than Riiiiiiiiiiiidge Raaaaaaaaaaacer for PS1, clocking in at just under 10MB (without sound + FMV).

Originally Posted by Jim

Well, a ton of the actual content on each of the discs is exactly the same (the general world, enemy, audio data, etc). They need to replicate that basic data for each disc as to avoid swapping discs for the silliest things, such as visiting previous areas.

A downloadable file would have only have one copy of that data, which would make it substantially smaller. It's absolutely doable.

Makes sense now really, sounds good.

Originally Posted by Eric_S

@Neo Child

Including all the C-class ones, over 10 000, IIRC.

My God.
MoxManiac
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(06-26-2006, 07:14 PM)
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I wonder if this means we'll get almost the whole catalog?

ebayers ftl :lol
Kroole
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(06-26-2006, 07:16 PM)
So 7000 of those 10000 released neither used all shoulder buttons nor dual-analogue?
AdmiralViscen
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(06-26-2006, 07:17 PM)
The fourth disc of FF8 locks out almost all non-essential locations. Wouldn't that mean the fourth disc alone is nearly 700MB of FMV?
Bad_Boy
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(06-26-2006, 07:19 PM)
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I like the sound of those. Except for the GPS which i cant see myself buying, the eyetoy on the other hand sounds cool if they take use of it well with some decent software.
Belfast
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(06-26-2006, 07:19 PM)
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Awww tits!
Jimbob
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(06-26-2006, 07:19 PM)
They're also making a universal translator for PSP aswell apparently. How exciting! Was this announced? Heard it from Mark Froggat (lead programmer at Sony SCEE). He gave a talk not long ago I went to. Talked about PS3 and PSP in quite some detail.
Ninja Kn1ght
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(06-26-2006, 07:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain


- PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SON (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.

OMG, If this is true I'll definitely be getting a PSP.
Shrike_Priest
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(06-26-2006, 07:21 PM)
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If that's true then I'm in heaven. With Square on board from the start, the chances for Chrono Cross and the rest of the titles they never released in Europe are really high.

The details do seem a bit fishy. Especially the launch with only so few titles when they're gonna be releasing literally thousands within a year, why can't they launch with at least a dozen titles?

As for the L2/R2, they could fix some of that by allowing the sound-button to be used as a modifier in the emulator. Wouldn't work on all games, sure, but on those that only use it occasionally.

I'm hopeful still.
Borys
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(06-26-2006, 07:23 PM)

PSone emulutar also out in October: first games will be TOMB RAIDER, Castlevania SON (  !!!!), FINAL FANTASY 7 and 8, SILENT HILL. Along 2007, near 7.000 psone titles will be available for the PSP.

**** this shit. It sold me a PSP in about 0.0000000001 sec.
Mmmkay
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(06-26-2006, 07:23 PM)

Originally Posted by Kroole

So 7000 of those 10000 released neither used all shoulder buttons nor dual-analogue?

Games are being emulated, so it's entirely possible that they can move the shoulder button usage to somewhere else. I don't think any game will pass TRC if they can't relocate essential buttons which are missing on the PSP.
Nino
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(06-26-2006, 07:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by Robinspain

UK PSP MAGAZINE reveals VERY INTERESTING details:

- GPS: will be out this october along with a new Everybody's Golf (it will be compatible). The GPS will determine your localization and could download exclusive content depending the area where you are. Kutaragi also says that there are (now) some psp titles that are compatible with this future periferic (...how misterious...)

Day 1 purchase, next-handheld-gen am here.
BorkBork
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(06-26-2006, 07:25 PM)
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+Memory Stick sales! Woo!
Y2Kev
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(06-26-2006, 07:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mmmkay

Games are being emulated, so it's entirely possible that they can move the shoulder button usage to somewhere else. I don't think any game will pass TRC if they can't relocate essential buttons which are missing on the PSP.

LOL, of course. "Yeah I got this game and uh...it doesn't work" tech support calls coming up.

I imagine it would be similar to PSone -> Saturn conversions, but how many games used the second analog anyway?
MoxManiac
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(06-26-2006, 07:29 PM)
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Man, I'd love to see more Square love.

Vagrant Story, Chrono Cross, FFT, Einhander, FF9

fap fap fap
Y2Kev
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(06-26-2006, 07:30 PM)
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VS on PSPone would totally rock.

OMG FFTactics to go. Perfect.
levious
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(06-26-2006, 07:30 PM)

Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

LOL, of course. "Yeah I got this game and uh...it doesn't work" tech support calls coming up.

I imagine it would be similar to PSone -> Saturn conversions, but how many games used the second analog anyway?

PSone and Saturn had the same amount of buttons though. I'm sure they'll be able to work things out fine though.
Neo Child
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(06-26-2006, 07:30 PM)
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How many shoulder buttons did the Ps1 have?
Kroole
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(06-26-2006, 07:31 PM)

Originally Posted by Mmmkay

Games are being emulated, so it's entirely possible that they can move the shoulder button usage to somewhere else. I don't think any game will pass TRC if they can't relocate essential buttons which are missing on the PSP.

Relocate them to what buttons exactly? From what I remember (it was quite some while ago I last played and owned a PSX game) many major titles used all of the PS controllers buttons and the PSP offers less buttons than that.

Just curious of what the ratio really was for games taking advantage of all the buttons (and later on analogue) vs ones that don't.
N3al
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(06-26-2006, 07:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

LOL, of course. "Yeah I got this game and uh...it doesn't work" tech support calls coming up.

I imagine it would be similar to PSone -> Saturn conversions, but how many games used the second analog anyway?

Not much. I can only think about Ape Escape as a game that really needs it, the rest did not need as much :D
AdmiralViscen
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(06-26-2006, 07:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Neo Child

How many shoulder buttons did the Ps1 have?

...
Guns N' Poops
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(06-26-2006, 07:33 PM)

Originally Posted by Neo Child

How many shoulder buttons did the Ps1 have?

4
Y2Kev
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(06-26-2006, 07:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by levious

PSone and Saturn had the same amount of buttons though. I'm sure they'll be able to work things out fine though.

Looking at my PSP, you could use the music note button in some games. Like in SotN, you have three transformation forms...you could definitely use L, R, and music note since you never really need to transform on the fly.

You could also use modifiers in the same way the PSP does for PS2 ports...hold [] and then do something.

There are lots of possible remedies...none as good as the original, but some very close. They have to decide on an individual basis or offer players the ability to map on their own.
Lazy vs Crazy
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(06-26-2006, 07:36 PM)
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Do we have any idea what the psone games will cost?
Bad_Boy
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(06-26-2006, 07:37 PM)
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Kutaragi also says that there are (now) some psp titles that are compatible with this future periferic (...how misterious...)

hell is that supposed to mean? PSP emulator on PS3? O_O

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