[Rody]

http://www.playsyde.com/leech_2666_en.html

Higher resolution.

[Francias Castiglione]

Interesting, the computer angle is still for the tax laws I assume?

No answers about the lack of Cell and RSX clockspeeds on spec sheets though.

[Mmmkay]

Interesting, the computer angle is still for the tax laws I assume?

Nope. We cleared that up in the thread about the case Sony lost in Europe. It was only ever an issue there, where they tried to avoid taxation claiming the PS2 was a computer. But since 2004 the tax is no longer in place.

[Diablohead]

Sounds like (lol pun) the ps3 will be realy silent, I like that. But with all that raw power I wonder if there will be any launch problems with heat like the 360 seemed to have.

PS3 does sound more interesting to me now, but its still miles out of my spending range, I had to save up for half a year just for a 360 and 1 game :lol

[gofreak]

Interesting, the computer angle is still for the tax laws I assume?

Not for the EU anymore, consoles are no longer subject to import duty.

SCE has always gone on and on about the placement of Playstation as a home entertainment computer (and I think that's what they'd like it to be, not a desktop PC replacement). PS3 is a further evolved incarnation of that.

If in practical terms it boils down to a more open model with regards to things like storage and (some) peripherals and even software (via Linux), it's a very good thing.

[DCharlie]

Sounds like (lol pun) the ps3 will be realy silent, I like that

i really would hold out before making any judgement on how much noise the PS3 is going to make or not make - it's a wee bit too early and i think they are still talking targets.

[gofreak]

I think it's not unreasonable to expect it to be relatively quiet(er). I don't know about precise decibel ratings, but with a 2x BD drive, it shouldn't get nearly as noisy as a 360 when it spins up (assuming the spin speed of a 1x BD drive = 1x DVD drive).

Maybe some more developers will come out of the woodwork and comment on the noise of the newest kits. We heard all about it when they sounded like jet engines..;)

I'll be happy if it's no noisier than my projector (and even then, at least I can place it away from my seating a lot easier).

[DCharlie]

Personally, i don't expect the PS3 shown at E3 to be the final design - i expect the Powerpack to get moved outside the unit too (not that that is a bad thing per se) - we shall see i guess :D

[Forsete]

This is what Masa Chatani said during E3 2005 regarding the sound level of the system.

Q. Considering power of CELL and GPU, the case size, and the internal power unit, it seems tough to manage heat. How is the noise? A. Since quietness is very important, our hardware team is trying to make it as quiet as possible. Of course it has all power-saving efforts in the chip-level. Though it's not compared with PS2 yet, I'd like to make it more quiet in the final product.

Seems the additional "holes" in the system helped a lot. ;)

[Servizio]

Hey guys.

I don't think it's really a computer system.

[jarosh]

all PLAYSTATION 3 games will be region free and will therefore play on any PLAYSTATION 3 regardless of where it was bought.

so this is it. the final confirmation. awesome.

[DCharlie]

so this is it. the final confirmation. awesome.

i need this to be true - import US games here we come without having to buy an import machine AND have cross region Blu ray?

FTFW!

*balls crossed*

[artist]

Untold Legends : Dark Kingdom?

Playable at E3? :lol

[jarosh]

i need this to be true - import US games here we come without having to buy an import machine AND have cross region Blu ray? FTFW! *balls crossed*

well, movies will still be region coded and ps3s will be single region...

BD region coding is a simplified version of the DVD region coding system. For BD, the regions are : Region A - USA and Japan Region B - Europe, Australia and New Zealand and most of the old PAL territories Region C - Russia and Asia BDA specifications stipulate that all BD players, including PLAYSTATION 3, must incorporate region coding and will be single region.

[mckmas8808]

i need this to be true - import US games here we come without having to buy an import machine AND have cross region Blu ray? FTFW! *balls crossed*

balls crossed?:lol Yeah I hope so too.

[Property of Jumpship]

Q14. Why did you set such a price for 20GB HDD model ?
A14. We have set this price so that many users can enjoy PS3.


:lol

[gofreak]

I wonder what changed between GDC and E3 for them to clarify the region issue so clearly like that. I'm still not totally convinced on that..it would have been nice if someone asked Harrison about that again at E3 (did they?), but I think people gave up after GDC ;)

[llTll]

*balls crossed*

:lol

<-- cross his balls too

[DCharlie]

Well, movies will still be region coded and ps3s will be single region... Quote: BD region coding is a simplified version of the DVD region coding system. For BD, the regions are : Region A - USA and Japan

well, from a stuck-in-Tokyo perspective, nothing is nicer than finding out you don't have to get raped for Japanese DVD/BR prices because you can pick up the US versions for half price !

I just wonder what the DVD playback region will be?

[Ranger X]

I just hope we are not entering the era of console becoming computers. Because of course their dream about us paying shitload more money and upgrading the parts...
Excessive need of upgrades created quite articificially by avid manifacturers is one of the main reasons i'm not a PC gamer and this phenomenon would also turn off from console gaming. I suppose i'd become a portable gamer only (please God no)

Otherwise, other details in the QA were very interesting, especially the confirmation of the region free model for software.

[Blimblim]

Isn't there, though, like a standard driver you can write to cover a class of devices in some cases? I mean if I plug a flash drive into my PC, does it use a specific driver, or a generic one? It seems often to refer to it rather generically. So I guess I should say, where a generic driver can support a device..maybe that's what is covered.

AFAIK, the only real standard are for storage devices, USB hubs, keyboards and mouse, eg the basic and mostly simple stuff.

[charlequin]

Well done. You could be a Sony PR rep. I like how some of these responses just restate the question.

My favorite is this:

Q22. Can you enjoy progressive images with PS and PS2 titles ? A22. Not only does PS3 convert images from SD to HD, it also converts interlace to progressive images (upward conversion is done by the PS3 system). Q23. Can you enjoy full HD PS3 software content with a standard TV ? A23. Not only does PS3 convert images from SD to HD, it also converts 1080p to 720p (downward conversion is done by the PS3 system).

where not only does the second question copy and paste the first question's answer, but in a way that makes the new answer incoherent (and doesn't actually answer the question).

[Mmmkay]

I think it's not unreasonable to expect it to be relatively quiet(er). I don't know about precise decibel ratings, but with a 2x BD drive, it shouldn't get nearly as noisy as a 360 when it spins up (assuming the spin speed of a 1x BD drive = 1x DVD drive).

According to the white papers, a 1x BD-ROM velocity is 4.9m/s and a 1x DVD velocity is 3.9m/s.

So the 2x BD-ROM drive in the PS3 will spin as fast as a 2.5x DVD drive.

[todog]

i need this to be true - import US games here we come without having to buy an import machine AND have cross region Blu ray? FTFW! *balls crossed*

I very much hope this turns out to be true. The uncertainty with games' region coding is holding me back from pre-ordering a PAL machine since I import 90% of my games. And considering the price of the PS3 I am not willing to take the risk of buying an import console (no warrenty etc.).

[Count Chocula]

-- The new controller will also allow users to freely navigate the PS3 controls as well as access, move around and operate the PS3's navigation system (Cross Media Bar) using the same sensor based control system.

very nice. I was hoping this motion sensing could be used for navigation hopefully it's as tight as using a mouse.

[gofreak]

According to the white papers, a 1x BD-ROM velocity is 4.9m/s and a 1x DVD velocity is 3.9m/s. So the 2x BD-ROM drive in the PS3 will spin as fast as a 2.5x DVD drive.

Cheers, that's good to know.

I'm wondering about the practicality of the motion sensing for use with the XMB. You could use it, sure, but I can't help but feel the analog stick would be better suited, and that's probably what I'd use.

[Count Chocula]

I was thinking the motion sensor could be used for web navigation since it's velocity sensitive it could be better than using analog stick.

[Scotch]

Like other computer systems, it is possible to upgrade the configuration of the PS3. For both models, it is possible to upgrade the hard disk to any industry standard Serial-ATA 2.5" HDD.

It's probably old, but this was news to me. That's really cool. Too bad you can't upgrade your PS3 with a HDMI port somehow.

edit: okay after reading it again I have to ask: do they mean that we as consumers can upgrade the harddrive or that Sony can?

[DarienA]

It's probably old, but this was news to me. That's really cool. Too bad you can't upgrade your PS3 with a HDMI port somehow. edit: okay after reading it again I have to ask: do they mean that we as consumers can upgrade the harddrive or that Sony can?

Everything I've read says you can go buy another serial ATA drive from your local electronics store and stick it in your PS3.

[Diablohead]

When it comes to imports I hope that the ps3 does the same kind of thing the 360 does, if your console is set to english then games automaticly use english font if its available in that game, and so on.

Lots of 360 games in japan seem to have english already supported, but then we have not seen many japanese made games apart from say doa4 contain the english alongside yet.

[Razoric]

Q20. You had previously announced that there would be two HDMI ports, but why does the PS3 with the 20GB HDD not have a HDMI port ? Can Blu-ray content be enjoyed in high quality graphics without HDMI ? A20. High quality HD images can be enjoyed equally with the 20GB HDD product via the AV multi port (1080p output is also possible with the TV equipped with the D5 input). Analog output from BD will be supported until 2011 and all software published until they can be enjoyed. Standardization of visual image output via home network (e.g. DLNA) is also currently under way.

What does this mean? 1080p possible with the $499 version?

[Chris Remo]

very nice. I was hoping this motion sensing could be used for navigation hopefully it's as tight as using a mouse.

There's no way it's as tight as using a mouse. I say that first off because I've used it, but also because it's a directional control system, not a positional one like a mouse essentially is. It has no idea where the controller is in space, it just knows the direction in which it is accelerating.

[Chris Remo]

What does this mean? 1080p possible with the $499 version?

Apparently, but I don't think very many TVs have a D5 input.

[kaching]

What does this mean? 1080p possible with the $499 version?

If you paid attention as much as you heckle, you'd know this :P

And I believe a D5 input is essentially the Japanese version of Component input.

[Y2Kev]

There's actually some nice info in there if you can wade through the absolute garbage. 29 dB is very nice.

DCharlie, if they move the power supply out (which at this point they could do still, I guess), do you expect the overall size of the system to shrink? If they pull them apart, I'd basically require that of them. You can't have that massive system and then a massive power supply.

[DSN2K]

that was a good read, im pleased about the noise levels.

[Razoric]

If you paid attention as much as you heckle, you'd know this :P And I believe a D5 input is essentially the Japanese version of Component input.

:p I'll put the tomatoes down for awhile. There's too much PS3 hate now anyway.

the price still sux though :D

[Count Chocula]

There's no way it's as tight as using a mouse. I say that first off because I've used it, but also because it's a directional control system, not a positional one like a mouse essentially is. It has no idea where the controller is in space, it just knows the direction in which it is accelerating.

I've used it too, but I dont think Warhark is the best example of the controller sensitivity. Anyway, not a big deal. At least it's confirmed that the Cross bar can be nagivated this way.

[meltpotato]

The controller indicates 4 wireless is possible. So perhaps 4 wireless + 4 wired = 8?

they also indicate "Serect" ;) could change for for release is my point...

but from memory they had originally indicated 7 controllers, which jives with what I know of Blue Tooth.

i need this to be true - import US games here we come without having to buy an import machine AND have cross region Blu ray? FTFW! *balls crossed*

I don't have a link i can find atm, although im sure one of the AV junkies does, but i recall Japan and NA already being in the same BD region and there only being 3 BD regions total.

For all f you still dreaming that you will be able to play PS3 location free on PSP, its not even remotely (PUN!) feasible. get a new dream thats somewhat possible, like truly free robust online and a spectacular interface.

[Dr_Cogent]

Q34. You say that PS3 provides backward compatibility of PS and PS2 titles, but would you insist that you offer complete backward compatibility even if vibration feature does not work ? A34. There is no major difference in gameplay even without the vibration feature. We hope a lot of users will support the new PS3 controller with new ways of enjoyment.

Answer 34 is not acceptable and is a major ****ing spin. No major difference my ass.

Also, the online is quite vauge. Dammit Sony - show your hand already. I really want to know about the online. At this point, all of the features should be known by now unless they are planning a post console launch of the service.

[Razoric]

Answer 34 is not acceptable and is a major ****ing spin. No major difference my ass. Also, the online is quite vauge. Dammit Sony - show your hand already. I really want to know about the online. At this point, all of the features should be known by now unless they are planning a post console launch of the service.

yeah that was a rolleyes there... just ****ing add rumble. you've been working on the controller for "years" yet cant figure out how to put it in? :lol come on Sony just let immersion handle this stuff, you go worry about blu ray.

[The Take Out Bandit]

So will I be able to play import PS2/PS1 games on my P$3? I'm still confused.

Math is hard.

[Bebpo]

So will I be able to play import PS2/PS1 games on my P$3? I'm still confused. Math is hard.

No. Those games themselves are still region locked. The idea is that PS3 software won't have any locking on the discs themselves to distinguish between the regions.

[DarienA]

Guys please STFU about rumble ok? Don't we have enough threads just for that?

<cue more bitching>

[xaosslug]

Guys please STFU about rumble ok? Don't we have enough threads just for that? <cue more bitching>

but can't YOU hear the public outcry? will you turn a deaf ear as Sony has? It's like losing the D-pad, really. a travesty. :p

[The Take Out Bandit]

No. Those games themselves are still region locked. The idea is that PS3 software won't have any locking on the discs themselves to distinguish between the regions.

Ah - that sucks. :\

Guess I'll just buy in import/modded PS2. Save a bunch of money. :P

[BenjaminBirdie]

Guys please STFU about rumble ok? Don't we have enough threads just for that? <cue more bitching>

Maybe if he hadn't said that it doesn't affect gameplay and, if I recall correctly, Metal Gear Solid, a somewhat prominent PS1 game refutes that completely...doesn't it?

I can't even remember, to be honest, but I remember the game taking digs at you and using the rumble functionality pretty extensively. One of the Metal Gears anyway.

Help?

[JB1981]

What does this mean? 1080p possible with the $499 version?

Of course. 1080p over component is perfectly possible, provided you have a TV that accepts 1080p via component.

[iapetus]

Interesting document, they sure want us to believe the PS3 is a computer system.

They tried it with the PS2 as well, in Europe at least. They pay more favourable import duties if they can pass it off as a PC. :D

[Forceatowulf]

Q41. How many launch titles do you expect to have ?
A41. We expect the best launch line-up in history.

I somehow doubt that.

Anyways very nice read.