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BOOTLEG AMIIBO DEVICE BACKS UP, SPOOFS, AMIIBO FUNCTIONALITY
- Thread starter Peltz
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I AM WHISPERING.
I don't open my Amiibo but I don't care for their uses in games. Not worth it.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
But you'll buy 15 amiibos and not open them?
This should be protected under the same copyright laws that saved the Game Genie way back when, right? The only reason Game Genie/Game Shark/Action Replay went under is because an emphasis on online content made it easy for companies to shut out cheat devices. If Figure-Locked Content just reopened the door, then I don't see how Nintendo could fight back, even if they argue that they charge for the locked content via figurines.
I've often wanted to create a thread about the possibility of Amiibo/Skylander spoofing, but was hesitant because I didn't know moderation policies on such a thing.
I am surprised that it has taken this long for someone to create a device to sidestep all the Toys-To-Life bullshit.
Is there a reason I actually need a device though? Why can't I just create an Android app that will spoof figurines using a cell phone?
I am surprised that it has taken this long for someone to create a device to sidestep all the Toys-To-Life bullshit.
Is there a reason I actually need a device though? Why can't I just create an Android app that will spoof figurines using a cell phone?
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Is this a joke?
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Lots of people like displaying figures in-box.
J
Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
At first they were cute but it got out of hand very quickly.
AcademicSaucer
Member
People buy amiibos for the in-game functionality ? thats news to me
The Digital Millennium Copyright Act did not exist when Game Genie came out. Nintendo will almost certainly get this thing banned in the United States.
Jawmuncher
Member
For that price nintendo has nothing to worry about. 80 bucks? Even for all future content that's steep.
It's still piracy, since the content on the disk still requires a key to unlock that would otherwise be sold separately (namely, with an amiibo). You'd still be pirating the key.
Massive Duck. C.M.
Banned
Lmao "amiiqo"
I only have 3 amiibos and bought them for the functionality, they're not high quality figures.
Amiibos themselves are not anti-consumer, although artificially manipulation of availability is.
I only have 3 amiibos and bought them for the functionality, they're not high quality figures.
Amiibos themselves are not anti-consumer, although artificially manipulation of availability is.
Augustiner
Neo Member
Really? What is your reasoning for this?
The business model for these figures does not have any verification of ownership by the user. There is no expectation that someone couldn't borrow a friend's or family members figure to unlock content on their game save.
I think this is more akin to borrowing a movie, game, or book from someone. I think spoofing Amiibo scans for personal use would be considered fair use.
Nah, I think it's legally equivalent to making a copy of a CD, game, or book.
Well not open most of them, yes. What can I say? I'm a huge fanboy.
Chopper Dave
Member
$70 hehe good luck with that. Who here has seriously spent anywhere near that just for amiibo functionality?
So anti consumer just means bad these days? I had such a anti consumer day today buddy let me tell ya...
So anti consumer just means bad these days? I had such a anti consumer day today buddy let me tell ya...
Augustiner
Neo Member
Upon further reflection, perhaps you're right. I guess codes on the figures could be considered intellectual property. Personal backups might be as far as you could get legally if you personally owned the figure.
Game Genie didn't come with 10 preloaded roms so nope. This thing's fucked.
It has that functionality, and just that would be fine. The device is preloaded with 10 amiibo images though (5 released, 5 unreleased) so it's more like a CD copier that comes with 10 copyrighted albums in the box.
I think the only way they stand a chance in American court is if they argued that this is a device that allows you to legally "back-up" your Amiibos for safety and convenience. Back-ups have generally been protected by law, and since these are kids' toys that can be easily lost or damaged I think you can make a good case that back-ups are necessary.
The manufacturer is in the UK anyhow though so I don't really know what sort of standard they would be held to.
The manufacturer is in the UK anyhow though so I don't really know what sort of standard they would be held to.
OK, pirating the key might be the issue. What do they actually look like?
Wowfunhappy
Member
Eh, not really. It's just giving you access to data that's already on the disc you paid for.
I have no problem with on-disc DLC or otherwise disc-locked content, but companies can't (or, at least, shouldn't be able to) complain if people find other ways of accessing said content.
I'd put this device in the same category as an Action Replay.
fly high ~ayunite~
Member
Surprised there isn't a way or app for an Android device (with NFC) to spoof an Amiibo.
That's a stretch. Lots of people just really dislike the Amiibo approach to DLC.
And I am one of those people. Not that I condone the use of these bootleg things to circumvent it.
It also comes with an amiibo filesharing app/apk.
I think the act of making a copy of a CD was made illegal in like the last month here in the UK so they're probably even more fucked.
I was tempted to pay about that much for the three splatoon amiibo. Eventually came to my senses and refused to pay stupid third party scalping rates. I just wish Nintendo would produce a normal amount. Locking content behind physical collectibles is one thing. Making those collectibles scarce is fucking stupid.
Someone on Reddit already figured out how to spoof Amiibos in December, but by the looks of it he got spooked and refused to release the app:
https://www.reddit.com/r/amiibo/comments/2nxm37/cloning_amiibos_with_nfc_and_hce_host_card/
Mikey Jr.
Member
Lol, I don't give a shit about WiiU/Amibo.
But if the only way to unlock at 73 skins is to buy $1000 worth of amibo, then your game is fucked up.
Dreams-Visions
Member
I honestly don't know how to feel about this kind of device. On one hand it goes against what Amiibo are designed for, but on the other hand they're so expensive, EXTREMELY hard to find anything outside a select few, and have been locking a lot of shit behind their paywalls, so I almost want to support something like this.
Gah.
Gah.
Visualante2
Member
Nintendo had some success banning flash carts in the UK right?
Wake me up when someone is actually prosecuted for copying a CD they own.
And miss out on $11,67 of sweet, sweet profits? Yeah, nah.
Explain.
Are skins really content tho? This is almost as if someone made a device that unlocks all the skins in Dota 2 or something like that. It's really just cosmetic stuff most of the time.
What game has that functionality?
Also, amiibo functionality spans more than one game in a lot of cases. You/I may not like amiibos as physical dlc but it's still piracy.
Doubt things would be different if Nintendo "did more on their end". Heck, people pirate free games, so is not like is about sales or demand.
This thing allows people to download data from amiibo they don't own, to use it as if they actually owned. It also allows multiple data in one and backups, so it could be argued that is about the added functions. Though seeing people openly admit to download data of amiibo they don't own, because "amiibo are anti-consumer this will teach Nintendo!" is kinda reaching. Is like admitting to pirate a game because said publisher never released it in your country.
That's a good point, it's hilarously depressing that it was even theoretically made illegal in the first place.
EDIT: Spoofing an Amiibo is probably piracy in the same way spoofing a F2P game to bypass IAPs is piracy. Your personal feelings on the product are meaningless.