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GT Countdown: Top Ten Straight Up Villains
- Thread starter Onesimos
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Playing this again since launch, and I agree. He's a perfect villain because he thinks he's a hero and he'll to any length to reach his goal.
Can't wait to see him in TPS.
Revolutionary
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My initial thought upon seeing the thread title was "I guess someone in the office finally played Suikoden 2". Disappointed.gif
Pretty much.
I wonder if many here do know who is Luca Blight. I do not know, and it is the first time I came upon that name.
Hours Left
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But not every incarnation has manifested himself in the same way. There's definitely an element of corruption in some of the versions. Just his appearance in the Wind Waker alone is enough to verify this.
I honestly wouldn't call 8, 9, and 10 "straight up villains" and I most certainly don't hate them.
10 is not a villain any more than any other mindless parasite, 9 is more lovable than anything else, and 8 is not as "straight up" evil as, well, the rest of the characters on that list, since he at least has character development and depth.
Rest of the list is at least accurate in that they're two-dimensional villains without any real nuance to them. And yeah, Luca Blight should definitely have been on there too.
10 is not a villain any more than any other mindless parasite, 9 is more lovable than anything else, and 8 is not as "straight up" evil as, well, the rest of the characters on that list, since he at least has character development and depth.
Rest of the list is at least accurate in that they're two-dimensional villains without any real nuance to them. And yeah, Luca Blight should definitely have been on there too.
Disagree about Psycho Mantis, considering his post-battle cutscene. Bowser as well. He might consider himself a straight-up villain, as he often declares in the Mario RPGs, but his history as a character says otherwise.
And lol at the lack of Luca Blight/Suikoden 2 again. Nothing more to say about that.
Sums up most lists from Gametrailers. They're all engineered to drum up forum debates and arguing.
And lol at the lack of Luca Blight/Suikoden 2 again. Nothing more to say about that.
Sums up most lists from Gametrailers. They're all engineered to drum up forum debates and arguing.
TheDinoman
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Honestly, I'm not sure if I'd call Lavos in Chrono Trigger a straight up bad guy like Ganondorf. He always came off to me as a mere parasite, just doing what he had to do in order to survive. It just kind of happens that what he has to do ultimately destroys worlds, but I don't think it has anything to do with wanting a good laugh or whatever like Kefka.
That's why I find it a bit silly with how in Chrono Cross, they mention how he's "filled with hatred and sadness" and how he wants vengeance or something.
That's why I find it a bit silly with how in Chrono Cross, they mention how he's "filled with hatred and sadness" and how he wants vengeance or something.
ShadowOfTheIco
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This is a fake villain list. Not a real life villain one.
Seven Force
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Solid list, lack of Luca Blight aside.
I'd probably swap Wesker and Xehanort's positions, but that aside, solid list.
I'd probably swap Wesker and Xehanort's positions, but that aside, solid list.
Ganon needs to return, he hasn't been a villain in the Zelda series since Twilight Princess.
Blue is a rival not a villain.
Beside Cyrus is the best villain in the Pokémon series as he actually achieved his goal, none of the other villains came anywhere close.
Blue is a rival not a villain.
Beside Cyrus is the best villain in the Pokémon series as he actually achieved his goal, none of the other villains came anywhere close.
FF Seraphim
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Yep that guy was crazy awesome evil
Suikoden is plenty popular for GT to consider it. Some villains are simply bound to not make the cut.
Napalm_Frank
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Needs more Monokuma.
Blueingreen
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Lol no Volgin ? He's an angry russian that wants to start WW3 with lighting powers, that's the most american archtype of a straight villain ever.
Azure Phoenix
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Sorry, but this list is about as bad as the average GameFAQs list, it's nothing more than a selection of villains from million selling games that over a decade old regardless of how evil they actually are. Being a "straight up" villain doesn't have to mean Saturday morning kids TV tier.
This will sound pretentious as shit, I know, but this list was way too mainstream. Guess it makes sense as this is GT, but stil...
Luca Blight would have been perfect, although there was some kind of motives for his actions, but then again, of that list, there were a couple of characters that are not evil per se, namely
Luca Blight would have been perfect, although there was some kind of motives for his actions, but then again, of that list, there were a couple of characters that are not evil per se, namely
- Sephi was just disgusted at the thought that Hojo was his dad and he was half-alien, come on, tell me you wouldn't do crazy things if you learned that?
- Kefka was a normal guy who went crazy after the Magitek process. We really need more insight into Kefka's past.
- Ganondorf just wanted the wind to stop T_T (WW best Zelda)
- And I'm not so sure about Psycho Mantis.
- Kefka was a normal guy who went crazy after the Magitek process. We really need more insight into Kefka's past.
- Ganondorf just wanted the wind to stop T_T (WW best Zelda)
- And I'm not so sure about Psycho Mantis.
IdreamofHIME
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Someone thinks Ganon is an anti hero?
Holy crap. Especially after Skyward Sword.
My niggle with this list is Sephiroth. Almost all his major villainous acts were actually carried out by Jenova attempting to carry out reunion while the real Sephiroth slept in the crater. If theu had talked more about Crisis Core and Zack's fate, sure. But they list the president and Aerith as his victims...nope.
Holy crap. Especially after Skyward Sword.
My niggle with this list is Sephiroth. Almost all his major villainous acts were actually carried out by Jenova attempting to carry out reunion while the real Sephiroth slept in the crater. If theu had talked more about Crisis Core and Zack's fate, sure. But they list the president and Aerith as his victims...nope.
Needs more Dahlia Hawthrorne.
True, best villain in the series.
Needs more Dahlia Hawthrorne.
Yessss.
Due to the shoddy translation and the young age of most players most people think that was actually Sephiroth you were seeing for the majority of the game.
And as if all that wasn't enough he's a rapist too.
Is Liquid Snake a "straight up" villain? The MGS series has such a ridiculously convoluted backstory -- is anyone a villain or a purely malevolent force who favors chaos and cruelty? After days of reading tedious Wikis to try and catch up, it seems more like everyone in this series is trying to rule the world but with some kind of high-minded goal.
Kurt Russell
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JadedWriter
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Where da fuck is Luca Blight on this list?
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Gary Oak never did anything wrong, except the sin of being a better Pokemon trainer than Ash.
ldcommando
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Where is Dr. Wily?
Manmademan
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agree with Kefka being one note and terrible. Luca blight from S2 was just straight terrifying.
I don't think Kefka belongs in this list for a different reason though- FF6 implies that he was an early recipient of the magitek process (the same one celes had) and that's what unbalanced him and drove him insane. Had celes gone first it would have been her. So...misunderstood, really.
this is a good call.
Shadow_FFVI
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Its not about the dialogue, but rather the delivery. The actor who plays Kefka in your head is worse than mine.
Only half kidding.
SatelliteOfLove
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Brawly Likes to Brawl
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You mean the guy who lost his champion status after 5 minutes and got his soul stolen by his own grandfather right afterward? No, the player was the villain.
Finale Fireworker
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I hate Lavos and don't think it has any redeemable qualities as a villain. Something with no humanity can't be a villain. Lavos is a force of nature.
That's really all I have to offer here.
He is not a video game character. Unless you're still calling Blue "Gary" in 2015.
I think YOU are the villain, here.
That's really all I have to offer here.
He is not a video game character. Unless you're still calling Blue "Gary" in 2015.
I think YOU are the villain, here.
You also kill his one of his pokemon on the ship.
Look at the second name.
akidnamededdy
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Somewhere beneath a pile of beautiful ladies probably.
This post is a joke.
Yo truth right here. Luca is straight evil
The Hermit
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He is a villain alright, even more than Giygas.
List needed Hades, though he is not as known as the rest of the list