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ShamePain · Aug 28, 2015

Looking at new screens and all:

It looks okay, but really the entire scene looks flat or something, there's next to no shadows or reflections going on, something that's been a big focus with the shift to PBR this generation. And Halo 5 just kinda looks like a slightly upgraded Halo 4?
I mean jeez, this is what a launch game for ps4 looked like and 2 years later Halo 5 can't match it?

What do you guys think?

RoKKeR · Aug 28, 2015

It's a locked 60fps game, so no, I think it looks just fine.

This doesn't seem like a productive discussion, especially when you start off with pictures of Killzone, a completely different game with different goals/scope.

Peltz · Aug 28, 2015

I think Halo 5 will have better gameplay and better framerate than KZ did.

Pinky · Aug 28, 2015

Looks pretty good to me.

Familienoberhauptvogel · Aug 28, 2015

ghibli99 · Aug 28, 2015

ShamePain said:

Maybe it's just me on a lazy Friday, but how does this not look good again?

LiK · Aug 28, 2015

the scale and destruction looks great from what I've seen

Kinyou · Aug 28, 2015

I mean jeez, this is what a launch game for ps4 looked like and 2 years later Halo 5 can't match it?

Well, Halo 5 is going for a stable 60FPS, isn't it?

bananafactory · Aug 28, 2015

Yeah I played the beta and it looked really rough but i gave it the benefit of the doubt since the full game was still far away

The newer screens and footage look a bit better but it's still pretty underwhelming

Bits N Pieces · Aug 28, 2015

Looking forward to an intelligent and insightful debate here . . .

Personally, I think it looks fantastic and the fact they set out the goal of 60fps to improve gameplay performance supersedes shiny bells and whistles, for me anyway.

Fbh · Aug 28, 2015

Looks great for a 60fps game.

Hell..I actually liked Killzone Shadow Fall. But it only got to 60 fps in multiplayer if you looked at a rock on an empty area of the map

ebullientprism · Aug 28, 2015

I mean jeez, this is what a launch game for ps4 looked like and 2 years later Halo 5 can't match it?

Conduit · Aug 28, 2015

RoKKeR said:
It's a locked 60fps game, so no, I think it looks just fine.

It isn't in singleplayer ( according to recent frametest videos from Gamescom ). Multy almost, but singleplayer for now isn't. Well, will see soon. But surely they go in right direction.

OrbitalBeard · Aug 28, 2015

It's running at 60fps, so I'm more than happy with its visuals.

btkadams · Aug 28, 2015

Is halo 5 going to be 1080?

I think the environments look pretty good but Master Chief does look really flat in that picture.

ambecomebabby · Aug 28, 2015

It's not quite ZOMFGZ DEM GRAFIX, but I like it. The fluidity of the 60fps is great in motion.
Also, it plays great. So there's that.

Tempy · Aug 28, 2015

I smell bait...

Hidden One · Aug 28, 2015

Those Shadow Fall screens look iffy OP...I don't remember the game looking that bad.

daman824 · Aug 28, 2015

Conduit said:
It isn't in singleplayer ( according to recent frametest videos ). Multy almost, but singleplayer for now isn't. Well, will see soon.

According to recent framerate tests it dropped only in one section. The rest of the demo was locked.

Considering that was most likely an old build, I'd say the game is going to be locked

SEGAvangelist · Aug 28, 2015

Conduit said:
It isn't in singleplayer ( according to recent frametest videos ). Multy almost, but singleplayer for now isn't. Well, will see soon.

The Gamescom SP demo was locked at 60 besides cutscenes.

R3TRODYCE · Aug 28, 2015

They look bad especially for a game releasing two years after launch. I wish they would have stuck to 30fps and made the game look better.

Enter the Dragon Punch · Aug 28, 2015

60FPS > fancy graphics

RoKKeR · Aug 28, 2015

Conduit said:
It isn't in singleplayer ( according to recent frametest videos ). Multy almost, but singleplayer for now isn't. Well, will see soon.

Wasn't the most recent Digital Foundry Halo 5 video almost completely locked, minus like a weird loading screen on an elevator or something? Maybe I'm misremembering. I'll try to find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhwuIWws4NM - this one I think.

TemplaerDude · Aug 28, 2015

It's got that clean, sci-fi Halo look to it. I think it looks fine.

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
60FPS > fancy graphics

Ohhh man you're gonna start a fight with someone.

Whompa02 · Aug 28, 2015

I actually felt the same way when looking at the first screenshots and videos for the game.

It doesn't seem like anything monumental in its graphics. Then again, neither did Halo 2.

Killzone: Shadowfall does look better, obviously.

That all being said, it looks like it plays like Halo.

RichiRamjag · Aug 28, 2015

The overall levels look nice and up there, the is a definite lack of special effects, but nothing too major. I won't even entertain the KZ comparison.

BurritoBushido · Aug 28, 2015

Looks good to me and I felt like Halo 4 is the only time I was ever actually impressed with Halo graphics

Sapphire Dreams · Aug 28, 2015

And Halo 5 just kinda looks like a slightly upgraded Halo 4

Really ?

Vs.

usp84 · Aug 28, 2015

It looks ok but not really good but the most impostant thing is the framerate

Rain City Gamer · Aug 28, 2015

They are focused on 60 FPS so the visuals will take a hit of course, but I don't think it looks bad by any means. It should look great in motion.

Primethius · Aug 28, 2015

Halo 5 is 60 FPS in campaign as opposed to Shadow Fall, so that comparison is a bit iffy.

With that said, I think Halo 5 being impressive comes entirely down to the environment being portrayed. Some, like the desert, look great. Other's look too much like Halo 4 with the art direction.

Familienoberhauptvogel · Aug 28, 2015

btkadams said:
Is halo 5 going to be 1080?

I think the environments look pretty good but Master Chief does look really flat in that picture.

I think demos so far had a dynamic resolution not sure which orientation though

mcrommert · Aug 28, 2015

No its entirely just you

RyudBoy · Aug 28, 2015

I'm an Xbox fanboy and I don't think the graphics are that impressive at all.

I think they should've went the 30fps campaign/60fps MP route to make the former look better.

antitrop · Aug 28, 2015

Nah, looks solid as fuck for a 60fps game.

It doesn't look better than Advanced Warfare, though. That's still the 60fps graphical standard on consoles.

wild wild rice · Aug 28, 2015

ebullientprism said:

Not necessarily. People have to be able to make comparisons without accusations of fanboyism or whatever.

60fps makes a huge difference so screens don't tell the whole story.

I wish the Killzone games were good.

VincentMatts · Aug 28, 2015

I think the graphics are fine, but i feel that 343 just isn't being very creative and its showing in the graphics. Like i said in the other thread, the MP 4 on 4 maps all seem like futuristic industrial designs. I mean, i refuse to believe that these guys don't have more talent than this. A lot of what makes games visually impressive comes from the details, like the lighting, the weather, the skyboxes, etc. I see nothing original here and that's what worries me more.

julzillamilitia · Aug 28, 2015

Halo has never been much of a looker outside cinematics.

its foolish to expect that to change now

Enter The 36 Chambers · Aug 28, 2015

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
60FPS > fancy graphics

This. Just... This

Summer Haze · Aug 28, 2015

Yeah, but it's worth it for the 60fps imo.

LewieP · Aug 28, 2015

I've not really been blown away by the graphics of a Halo game since Halo 2.

Subsequent games look fine, but not really a huge leap over what has came before them.

I'm also not fond of how they have gradually got less and less colourful.

New game looks OK, certainly not bad,

Gr1mLock · Aug 28, 2015

I rather like 343's art direction.

Always-honest · Aug 28, 2015

Nope, looks good. Though they might even be bullshots, judging on the lack of aliassing (watching on iPad though).
These are perfectly fine indoor screens.
Halo was always a game with more or less minimalistic environments indoors.

timlot · Aug 28, 2015

ShamePain said:
I mean jeez, this is what a launch game for ps4 looked like and 2 years later Halo 5 can't match it?

Halo has its own art direction. I'm not a fan of it, but thats the look they are going for. As far as Killzone being some type of benchmark 2 years ago, Ryse.

Gbraga · Aug 28, 2015

Higher framerate on weaker hardware, you have unreasonable expectations.

Muffdraul · Aug 28, 2015

I wouldn't say they're most amazing graphics I've ever seen, but underwhelmed? No. Looks great to me.

Lactose_Intolerant · Aug 28, 2015

I'm underwhelmed by most current gen console games' graphics

Future PhaZe · Aug 28, 2015

small improvements and running one of last gens best looking games at double the framerate--seems about what I'd expect from the xbox one hardware wise

LifEndz · Aug 28, 2015

Enter the Dragon Punch said:
60FPS > fancy graphics

This. Give me a 60fps competitive fps any day over thirty. Different art style and aesthetic than Shadowfall. And Halo always looks better live and in person than in screenshots.

Deadly Cyclone · Aug 28, 2015

Underwhelmed by screenshots. :/

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