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Microsoft on background music on XB1: "Taking our time, we want to do it right"
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Poodlestrike
Banned
Good stuff.
I've been waiting on this feature for a while, not really sure how right they want to do it. Only stuff I can think of is allowing separate volume control for the music while in game.
Same, you choose notifications for all friends, or just favourites.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I know this, hence I used "like" service.
I think the way to improve it would be getting Groove music to be able to play in the background.
It's not great for all games but I'd rather listen to a custom playlist on a racing game or listen to some music I like in the background of halo which has no music in multiplayer.
Goodacre0081
Member
that is what Sony had done. they started off with a barebones USB MP3 player, moved on to Spotify and now they have a regular DLNA media player.
digoutyoursoul
Member
From what I remember it worked even better on the OG Xbox, the GTA games especially which turned your stored music into its own cassette player in the car you were driving so conversations wouldn't be drowned out by the music, which would fade like the radio stations would when characters were having a conversation. I found it strange they never did that for GTA IV.
arhra
Member
The way to improve it would be to make it a pluggable API that third-party apps can hook into. Doing that robustly while meeting everyone's needs is the tricky part, and probably why it hasn't happened just yet.
digoutyoursoul
Member
Put iTunes in there! lol
That's what I'm thinking. I also think this feature will launch alongside the UWP opening up for the Xbox One.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Dream scenario would be to make it work it all apps, I need TuneIn running in the background so I can listen to Test Match Special while driving around in Horizon 2.
It would be nice if they could at least get Groove to work in the background first.
That's what they did with Halo MCC.
Aceofspades
Banned
Why don't you fix install times first? background music is no big deal
Neuromancer
Member
I wonder if there isn't enough extra RAM to handle it, same as party chat on PS3.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Why does he "want to do it right?", they've done barely anything right with the new dash anyway. Just throw the background music on the pile and hope for the best like the rest of the dash.
Huh? The new dash is a huge step up from the old one
MaulerX
Member
Not sure how you're getting at this conclusion. They said it's coming. It just seems like they want to improve on the 360 solution and are aiming at background music/audio for all apps. At least that's what I'm getting from it.
Diprosalic
Banned
not really since that game made me 0% happy and is still broken today.
You're percentage of happiness would be equal if they delivered a half-baked solution for background music.
Hockeymac18
Member
You can already play your own music that way on the xb1. Groove (formally zune -> xbox music) is pretty great. Works just as well as Spotify (and predates it).
The only issue here is doing all of that in the background vs snapped.
I'm not sure what makes it so complicated, but i imagine most here are simplifying it tremendously. I imagine much of the complexity is coming from the way they designed their app/os structure on xbox one. Many things that were "standard" on the 360 were built into the OS, and this gen they've moved to an app-centric system.
That complexity isn't necessarily bad because on the previous system, you couldn't have any music app (such as xbox music) playing in the background. With this set up, they can make all music apps behave this way.
I hope it gets sorted out soon because I'd love to have it.
Neuromancer
Member
It wasn't a conclusion; hence the "I wonder" part.
Mr. Enigma
Member
This was fully functional at the launch of the Xbox 360 exactly 10 years ago today. 2 years is not "taking your time." Horse shit.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
This is one of those love/hate thing I have with MS; sometimes there is a new feature and I feel like they take too long to implement things, but when they do get to it, it usually is above and beyond what I would've thought.
If I had to guess, I'd imagine that when this feature comes it will coincide with other features... like maybe a streamlined way to control music, smartglass/Xbox app integration for controls, voice-commands, apps will probably be redesigned or adjusted to accommodate instead of just making it purely background music, new configuration settings & behavior options, probably adding some kind of "PlayTo" over network implementation, hopefully some way to let me play Spotify/Google Music etc etc.
I wouldn't think it would be as simple as; play music in the background. Playing music in the background, I would think would completely change the behavior apps, compared to the frozen state that they currently have.
If I had to guess, I'd imagine that when this feature comes it will coincide with other features... like maybe a streamlined way to control music, smartglass/Xbox app integration for controls, voice-commands, apps will probably be redesigned or adjusted to accommodate instead of just making it purely background music, new configuration settings & behavior options, probably adding some kind of "PlayTo" over network implementation, hopefully some way to let me play Spotify/Google Music etc etc.
I wouldn't think it would be as simple as; play music in the background. Playing music in the background, I would think would completely change the behavior apps, compared to the frozen state that they currently have.
Bullshit excuse. The 360 did it perfectly. Out of the box. 10 years ago.
I find it unbelievable. It's like they don't remember how incredible the core features were on the 360.
Every single core feature is worse or completely missing on the XBO. Not even the NXOE made things loke friends, achievers, messages, etc, as good as they were on the 360.
I find it unbelievable. It's like they don't remember how incredible the core features were on the 360.
Every single core feature is worse or completely missing on the XBO. Not even the NXOE made things loke friends, achievers, messages, etc, as good as they were on the 360.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
Bad version now, then you can work on your Citizen Kane of background music players.
WouldYouKindly
Banned
Ms did this quite well on the 360. it blows my mind both ms and Sony are this annoying about the most basic features like the ps3 did a fantastic job at folders and customization but the ps4 it's no were to be found. And is taking ages to implement and now the one can't even hook background music up which the 360 perfected
HighResTomato
Member
Unless they are creating some beast of a player that lets you choose the source (Soundcloud, Spotify, Pandora, TuneIN) and works perfectly with all if them. I don't see what could take them this long to do it.
What A Time To Be Alive
Member
That's most likely what they're doing. The 360 one was pretty barebones that the music had to be ripped from a CD to the hard drive. Sometimes you could get iPod's to work but it was very picky. This will probably let you choose with source for streaming, hopefully they will let me plug in my phone via USB and listen to music off my phone's memory that would be cool.
With how streaming music has become the main way most people get music now, developing the Universal Windows Platform to allow apps to play sound in a closed or hidden state seems to be the route they're taking.
The way the new guide is, they can very easily add a section for music that then connects to whatever apps you have that are updated to work with it. They could also integrate Cortana go be able to go within the apps and play the music you ask it to.
Mind you this is speculation, but seems very reasonable to me.
What an odd post
That seems to be the way they're taking, but people would rather have a quick version that's exactly similar to the last one than something substantially different and improved. I'm guessing tones will change upon release.
I am curious about how many people use this feature too.
I used it all the time on the 360 while playing multiplayer games. It's great when you're jumping between lobbies and just want some downtime.
I don't get what's so hard to understand about that for some people in this thread.
Well it's not 2005 anymore and you probably have 5 devices in your living room that can stream for you...not sure why your game console has to anymore.
You could stream off a PC for music
brokenbeans
Banned
So this basically means they tried to release it earlier but ran into issues or feel they don't have the music apps which are strong enough to support it.
Can't argue with that, I mean look at the reactions in this thread imagine if they half assed it!
Can't argue with that, I mean look at the reactions in this thread imagine if they half assed it!