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Pewpewlazors99
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(03-04-2016, 01:32 AM)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swt4nOaG630

  1. Diablo
  2. Fallout 2
  3. Planescape: Torment
  4. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
  5. Wasteland
  6. System Shock 2
  7. The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall
  8. Shadowrun
  9. Dungeon Master II: The Legend of Skullkeep
  10. The Bard's Tale
Last edited by Pewpewlazors99; 03-04-2016 at 01:48 AM.
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(03-04-2016, 01:32 AM)
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Thank you OP for no spoilers on the list.
NinjamicWZ
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(03-04-2016, 01:33 AM)
Is Baldur's Gate II too mainstream now? oh, nothing from 2000 and onwards
jabuseika
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(03-04-2016, 01:34 AM)
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Morrowind?
The Technomancer
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(03-04-2016, 01:34 AM)
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Diablo...1?

I may need to watch this
K.Sabot
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(03-04-2016, 01:35 AM)
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Diablo 1 is neither underrated or overrated.

It is simply rated.

Diablo 2 should be in its place.
Platy
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(03-04-2016, 01:35 AM)
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Came in expecing RPGS SET IN WESTERN SETTING, not rpgs made in the western world =(
epmode
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Originally Posted by jabuseika

Morrowind?

I guess they're only going for one game per series but I'd definitely put Morrowind over the beautiful mess of Daggerfall.
wanderingprostheyltite
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(03-04-2016, 01:36 AM)
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No BGII wat.

No Morrowind either, list is garbage :p

It's decent but scratching my head of Daggerfall over Morrowind. Was the former that acclaimed or influential at the time?
KyleCross
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(03-04-2016, 01:37 AM)
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I was a bit disappointed not to see some titles on there, such as Witcher 3. However, it looks like this is a pretty established list of classics. Maybe it'll be on there in 10 years.
jres80
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(03-04-2016, 01:40 AM)
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One of the first lists I've been ok with as far as RPGs.

They even got Dungeon Master, a sorely underrated and highly influential series.
Nere
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(03-04-2016, 01:43 AM)
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Why did OP not spoilered the list? You just ruinned the video for me!!! /sarcasm

Weird list. Why Daggerfall instead of Morrowind? Is it because Morrowind isn't that old?
Also why no BGII?
Kade
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(03-04-2016, 01:44 AM)
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Thank you for respecting Shadowrun.
MichaelEM3
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(03-04-2016, 01:45 AM)
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For those asking, they state at the start of the video that they're limiting themselves to the games of the 80s and 90s. Games released in 2000 and onward will get their own list later.
inm8num2
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(03-04-2016, 01:46 AM)
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ITT people who didn't watch the first 20 seconds of the video.

"Here we'll be taking a look at games from the 80s and 90s..."

edit - what the poster above me said ;)
KyanMehwulfe
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(03-04-2016, 01:48 AM)
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Why are two totally different Shadowrun games basically presented as 1 game =p

different story, game, developer, even released in different years... they've about as much in common as an Ultima and a Final Fantasy hehe


....that said, I'm just happy to see either game on a Top 10 list haha Shadowrun (Sega) is pretty close to by single favorite game (SNES version is a fun story too but it doesn't come close to the gameplay of the Sega game)
Unai
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(03-04-2016, 01:49 AM)
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Guys, the list doesn't have games from 2000 and newer. They said so in the video.

Edit: Beaten.
sunshine and gasoline
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(03-04-2016, 01:49 AM)
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I'm mostly fine with the list. Planescape: Torment should be number one in my opinion but third place is acceptable especially as the ones above it are great games themselves.
Just take it with you.
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(03-04-2016, 01:51 AM)
I would have put World of Xeen on this list, personally, but I guess it is technically two games.
Brandon F
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Originally Posted by sunshine and gasoline

I'm mostly fine with the list. Planescape: Torment should be number one in my opinion but third place is acceptable especially as the ones above it are great games themselves.

I suppose. Planescape builds a fascinating world with memorable characters and engaging prose, but as a game...its eh. Infinity Engine gave us better ones.
TheYanger
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(03-04-2016, 01:52 AM)
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Diablo is NOT what I would think of in this category. That bugs me a lot. It's like Zelda winning best JRPG.
Nikodemos
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(03-04-2016, 01:54 AM)
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No Might & Magic VI?

No Betrayal at Krondor?

No Darklands?

No Dark Sun?

EDIT: For that matter, where's Albion, where's Realms of Arkania?
Last edited by Nikodemos; 03-04-2016 at 02:03 AM.
Transistor
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So glad to see Dungeon Master II on here. Everything about that game is amazing.
Easy_D
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(03-04-2016, 02:02 AM)
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Lol at them somehow mixing the Genesis and SNES Shadowrun games up, they're way different from eachother, but they talk about them as if they were the same game. You play as god damn Jake Armitage in the SNES game.
sunshine and gasoline
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Originally Posted by Brandon F

I suppose. Planescape builds a fascinating world with memorable characters and engaging prose, but as a game...its eh. Infinity Engine gave us better ones.

I certainly won't deny that. I just feel that the characters, world and story more than make up for its shortcomings.
TheBowen
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(03-04-2016, 02:05 AM)
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WHERES KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUB-

Originally Posted by NinjamicWZ

[strike]oh, nothing from 2000 and onwards

Oh. Okay. Nevermind

Although i was surprised to see system shock here. I was always under the impression it was a doom like game with horror and story elements
Theodran
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(03-04-2016, 02:07 AM)
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ctrl+f Baldur's Gate

:(

That game was crack. Not as good as Torment, but definitely top 10 material.
LurkerPrime
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Originally Posted by Platy

Came in expecing RPGS SET IN WESTERN SETTING, not rpgs made in the western world =(

This right here. I was really excited to learn that 10 Western RPGs actually existed... but, no.

Oh well. Maybe next decade.

Edit: Dungeon Master II: The Legend of Skulldeep? Are you sure about that, announcer-man?!
Last edited by LurkerPrime; 03-04-2016 at 02:16 AM.
HK-47
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(03-04-2016, 02:14 AM)
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Originally Posted by Brandon F

I suppose. Planescape builds a fascinating world with memorable characters and engaging prose, but as a game...its eh. Infinity Engine gave us better ones.

As a game its amazing. The dialogue and its systems carry the game.
jres80
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(03-04-2016, 02:15 AM)
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The only change I'd make is to get Ultima Underworld in there. That game's influence is undeniable and far reaching. I'd probably bump Shadowrun.

Lack of Wizardry is pretty big also.
Fantastapotamus
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(03-04-2016, 02:19 AM)
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I guess Gothic 2 isn't on this list cause it came out after 2000. Fair enough.
Otherwise it would have totally been on that list. Right? Right.
DiscoJer
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Eh, I like The Bard's Tale series, but I think it was essentially a copy of Wizardry and that later versions of that series (Wizardry 6-8) and the Might and Magic (3-5) series were superior to The Bard's Tale.

Also would have put Curse of the Azure Bonds on that list (as arguably the best of the Gold Box games). Not offense to Shadowrun, but there were like 10 of the Gold Box games, it was a huge series.
1upsuper
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(03-04-2016, 02:21 AM)
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No Wizardry 1? No Might & Magic at all? Not too bad otherwise, I guess.
inm8num2
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(03-04-2016, 03:20 PM)
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New video:

Top 10 Western RPGs of the 2000s
K.Sabot
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Originally Posted by inm8num2

New video:

Top 10 Western RPGs of the 2000s

throwing up at the #1

the rest of the list was so good in comparison
toddhunter
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I respect this list. I wouldn't have Diablo on there, but I know many people would (I would have 5 Ultimas from 1-5...)
Funyarinpa
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System Shock 2 is the best WRPG of all time for me. From what I've played of it, Planescape Torment is worth the rank.
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Don't really understand Diablo topping the list at all. Otherwise the list seems ok. Would probably throw Betrayal at Krondor somewhere in there somewhere, but otherwise I don't feel the need to mock this list as I do many others.
mclem
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(03-05-2016, 09:22 AM)
It's a bit of a tough one, I think my list would put Underworld 2 on there, and I'd like some representation for Might & Magic, but I'm really not sure what I'd take off to justify those.
Nikodemos
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Originally Posted by mclem

It's a bit of a tough one, I think my list would put Underworld 2 on there, and I'd like some representation for Might & Magic, but I'm really not sure what I'd take off to justify those.

Shadowrun definitely. I mean, c'mon, console RPGs during the '90s were utterly pitiful compared to what you could get on PC.

Afterwards, it's a contest between The Bard's Tale and Dungeon Master II. You really don't need both on the list.
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inm8num2
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Final video:

Top 10 Western RPGs of the 2010s

edit - I lied

Top 10 Western RPGs of All Time
Last edited by inm8num2; 03-06-2016 at 09:13 PM.
Phediuk
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(03-05-2016, 11:50 PM)
Ultima Underworld is a glaring omission.

Pool of Radiance is also missing.
hemtae
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Originally Posted by inm8num2

New video:

Top 10 Western RPGs of the 2000s

10. Borderlands
9. The Witcher
8. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
7. Neverwinter Nights
6. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
5. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
4. Diablo II
3. Deus Ex
2. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
1. Fallout 3

Honorable Mentions: Fable II, Dragon Age: Origins, Jade Empire, Mount & Blade,

Originally Posted by inm8num2

Final video:

Top 10 Western RPGs of the 2010s

10. Wasteland 2
9. Pillars of Eternity
8. Dragon Age: Inquisition
7. Borderlands 2
6. Divinity: Original Sin
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Dark Souls
3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
1. Mass Effect 2

Honorable mentions: Diablo III, Legend of Grimrock 2, Torchlight II, Shadowrun Returns,

Originally Posted by inm8num2


edit - I lied

Top 10 Western RPGs of All Time

10. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
9. System Shock 2
8. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
6. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
5. Mass Effect 2
4. Deus Ex
3. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2. Diablo
1. Fallout 3

Honorable mention: Dark Souls, Planescape: Torment, Wasteland, Neverwinter Nights, Shadowrun,
El_Chino
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Originally Posted by hemtae

10. Borderlands
9. The Witcher
8. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
7. Neverwinter Nights
6. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
5. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
4. Diablo II
3. Deus Ex
2. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
1. Fallout 3

Honorable Mentions: Fable II, Dragon Age: Origins, Jade Empire, Mount & Blade,



10. Wasteland 2
9. Pillars of Eternity
8. Dragon Age: Inquisition
7. Borderlands 2
6. Divinity: Original Sin
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Dark Souls
3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
1. Mass Effect 2

Honorable mentions: Diablo III, Legend of Grimrock 2, Torchlight II, Shadowrun Returns,



10. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
9. System Shock 2
8. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
6. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
5. Mass Effect 2
4. Deus Ex
3. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2. Diablo
1. Fallout 3

Honorable mention: Dark Souls, Planescape: Torment, Wasteland, Neverwinter Nights, Shadowrun,

Fallout 3? Ouch....
Corpekata
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Really don't get their love for the original Diablo.
Hektor
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Originally Posted by hemtae

10. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
9. System Shock 2
8. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
6. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
5. Mass Effect 2
4. Deus Ex
3. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2. Diablo
1. Fallout 3

Honorable mention: Dark Souls, Planescape: Torment, Wasteland, Neverwinter Nights, Shadowrun,



Bad list is bad.

And why is Dark Souls listed?
Novum_Veritas
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Originally Posted by Hektor



Bad list is bad.

And why is Dark Souls listed?

Since when is Dark Souls a WRPG :P
Great skills there WatchMojo :P
Acosta
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(03-07-2016, 09:57 AM)
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1. Diablo

No more words needed.
Black Volt
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Dang, didn't know there was an older shadowrun game, guess Shadowrun Returns makes a bit more sense now. I'd be tempted to check it out, but that doesn't look super easy to go back to.
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Originally Posted by hemtae

10. Borderlands
9. The Witcher
8. Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines
7. Neverwinter Nights
6. The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
5. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
4. Diablo II
3. Deus Ex
2. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
1. Fallout 3

Honorable Mentions: Fable II, Dragon Age: Origins, Jade Empire, Mount & Blade,



10. Wasteland 2
9. Pillars of Eternity
8. Dragon Age: Inquisition
7. Borderlands 2
6. Divinity: Original Sin
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Dark Souls
3. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
2. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
1. Mass Effect 2

Honorable mentions: Diablo III, Legend of Grimrock 2, Torchlight II, Shadowrun Returns,



10. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
9. System Shock 2
8. Ultima VII: The Black Gate
7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
6. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt
5. Mass Effect 2
4. Deus Ex
3. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn
2. Diablo
1. Fallout 3

Honorable mention: Dark Souls, Planescape: Torment, Wasteland, Neverwinter Nights, Shadowrun,

Sooo, first they list Fallout 3 as their favourite. Then they remove it from the list and places Fallout: New Vegas in but slightly slower on the list. Then they remove that again and places Fallout 3 on number one again.

Make up your goddamn mind, I'm getting the impression WatchMojo is just pulling this list out of their ass every time, they probably do.

Also, terrible lists. Fallout 3 and Diablo 1? Really?

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