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neondriver
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(09-19-2006, 11:59 AM)
Here are two screenshots from a recent preview build, quite an improvement imho:



LCGeek
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(09-19-2006, 12:00 PM)
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The grass seems like it would look better in motion.
Dynamite Shikoku
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(09-19-2006, 12:00 PM)
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Looks like crap
Diablohead
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(09-19-2006, 12:00 PM)
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It looks nice, though thats quite a short cut out distance in the first pic, and the second one reminds me of cotton wool.
TTP
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(09-19-2006, 12:02 PM)
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well, at least they are trying
Timbuktu
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(09-19-2006, 12:03 PM)
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looks like a watercolor filter in photoshop
neondriver
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(09-19-2006, 12:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Hatorade

The grass seems like it would look better in motion.

Yeah, the guy who took those said it looks a bit strange in stills, but looks pretty nice in motion.
Also the animation seems to be very good in the recent build.
cybamerc
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(09-19-2006, 12:05 PM)
That looks like shit. They should work on the textures instead. You won't notice the carpet like pitch during gameplay but the textures always look bad.
6.8
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(09-19-2006, 12:07 PM)
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Too many repetitive textures in the grass. A bigger storage medium could definitely solve this problem.
Carton
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(09-19-2006, 12:07 PM)
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Reminds me of Viva Pinata.
neondriver
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(09-19-2006, 12:08 PM)


The right part is zoomed in.
Dynamite Shikoku
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(09-19-2006, 12:10 PM)
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Who the hell looks at bloody grass when they play a game?
Zaptruder
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(09-19-2006, 12:11 PM)
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It's not great, but it's the best emulation of the short uneven nature of grass I've seen in a game so far.

Lack of AF kills it though.
PipBoy
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(09-19-2006, 12:15 PM)
Only in videogames: Louis II stadium is full :lol (well, it's full when they play against Marseille and... that's it)
SumGamer
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(09-19-2006, 12:18 PM)
The stadium's field carer need to be fired. The grass wouldn't look like that if we were watching the real game from TV. The blue shoes and leg pad are nice tho.
Orodreth
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(09-19-2006, 12:20 PM)

Originally Posted by Carton

Reminds me of Viva Pinata.

Willy Wanka
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(09-19-2006, 12:26 PM)
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Not too bad at all.
mrklaw
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(09-19-2006, 12:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zaptruder

It's not great, but it's the best emulation of the short uneven nature of grass I've seen in a game so far.

Lack of AF kills it though.


I was thinking that. But then in the first shot there is DOF being applied - but I don't think it'd kick in that suddenly.
DSN2K
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(09-19-2006, 12:28 PM)
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looks washed out and lacking AF.
Bojangles
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(09-19-2006, 12:30 PM)
Would look better on the PS3 with more lights.

If you're a retard
Sloane
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(09-19-2006, 12:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Carton

Reminds me of Viva Pinata.

Exactly. Poor animals. :(
Screenboy
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(09-19-2006, 12:32 PM)
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looks like carpet!

looks good from a distance though.
Ghost
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(09-19-2006, 12:32 PM)
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I dunno, it looks like even the brown bits (which i always assumed were supposed to be bare ground) have the grass texture on them.

Guess its better than a flat texture but really, who cares?
Keio
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(09-19-2006, 12:37 PM)
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I heard the player faces in the Xbox 360 version are blank (as in empty, flat skin coloured textures) while playing from "wide" view. Is that true?

I hope our editor is wrong, please tell me he is!
Willy Wanka
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(09-19-2006, 12:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ghost

I dunno, it looks like even the brown bits (which i always assumed were supposed to be bare ground) have the grass texture on them.

Guess its better than a flat texture but really, who cares?

GAF cares.
fresquito
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(09-19-2006, 12:47 PM)
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Like you will see if the grass is well done while playing...
Prine
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(09-19-2006, 12:51 PM)
looks like astro turf
Souldriver
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(09-19-2006, 12:59 PM)
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I got a question: isn't it possible that when they really would make the gras leaf by leaf that it would look horrible in motion? Maybe then it would look unrealistic, because in real life when you watch a soccer game, you don't see every darn leaf either.
MMaRsu
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(09-19-2006, 12:59 PM)
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Can't wait for this game, the holy grail of soccer..
Katana_Strikes
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(09-19-2006, 01:01 PM)
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Nice legs! ;)
Nervous Hamster
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(09-19-2006, 01:23 PM)

Originally Posted by Orodreth


Hahahahaa :lol

OMG, I can't stop laughing...

But anyway, I see some grass improvement here.
Skilotonn
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(09-19-2006, 01:26 PM)
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Yeah, looks like carpet, but the sad thing is that it's still a hell of alot better than it used to be...

Konami hasn't ever been great with graphics with this game at all... too bad...

Luckily for them the REAL fans don't even care about the grass in this game!
Gamecocks625
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(09-19-2006, 01:30 PM)
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At least it's not the "realistic" grass of FIFA 06 where it would totally surround the player's boots.
Nervous Hamster
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(09-19-2006, 01:32 PM)

Originally Posted by Skilotonn

Konami hasn't ever been great with graphics with this game at all... too bad...

You're kidding right? Orrr... you prefer the plastic toy soldiers from FIFA?
bumpkin
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(09-19-2006, 01:43 PM)
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Looks like someone did a painting of a field using a sponge.
raYne
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(09-19-2006, 01:49 PM)
That first pic features some nice grass texture cut-off distance.

The ball/boots look good at least.
Skilotonn
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(09-19-2006, 01:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nervous Hamster

You're kidding right? Orrr... you prefer the plastic toy soldiers from FIFA?

Nope, I didn't like it when FIFA suddenly discovered bump-mapping, but sadly I always thought FIFA was the better looking game in stills... from models to stadiums to crowds...

Visually, PES was never better than FIFA, but it was never a huge difference though...
swander
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(09-19-2006, 01:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Gamecocks625

At least it's not the "realistic" grass of FIFA 06 where it would totally surround the player's boots.

I was playing the Just Cause demo yesterday, and the fact that it reminded me of Fifa isn't exactly a glowing review for their graphics.
SolidSnakex
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(09-19-2006, 02:05 PM)
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n/m
rager
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(09-19-2006, 02:08 PM)
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looks pretty good to me.
The Innocent X
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(09-19-2006, 02:10 PM)
3D grass is taxing and looks terrible anyway. Just a good quality non-obviously repeating texture would be fine.
Francias Castiglione
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(09-19-2006, 04:22 PM)
Seems to be improving quickly from the GC build.

Originally Posted by Zaptruder

It's not great, but it's the best emulation of the short uneven nature of grass I've seen in a game so far.

Lack of AF kills it though.

Definitely agree with this. First time I've seen grass in a "soccer" game at the right length.
kaizoku
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(09-19-2006, 04:59 PM)
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This might sound strange, but those are the first time football boots have looked beautiful in a game. Lovely!

As for FIFA graphics being better, only in some areas, they dont always get the likenesses right and thats what matters, not how polished the models are. Also the animation is never a patch on PES, FIFA players run like zombies or hunchbacks or something, and you always get that "skating" feeling.
PjotrStroganov
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(09-19-2006, 05:06 PM)
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AFAIK earlier screens allready showed this effect. When the camera zooms out only a bit, the effect seems to dissapear in a green sea of blur.
meltpotato
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(09-19-2006, 05:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Zaptruder

It's not great, but it's the best emulation of the short uneven nature of grass I've seen in a game so far.

Lack of AF kills it though.

.
Demigod Mac
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(09-19-2006, 05:41 PM)
Looks like voxels.
B E N K E
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(09-19-2006, 05:43 PM)
Seriously only EA Canada try to depict long strands of grass. You can't play football on that kind of surface. The grass is cut really, really short, unless you're trying to depict African football where they need to have long grass because of the climate. So is it really interesting to show grass that we would never see in real life?
DaCocoBrova
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(09-19-2006, 05:43 PM)
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Never would've thought AF, of all things, would be an issue this gen. Here's to hoping some smart people develop a way around this hurdle as it's really hurting a lot, if not most 360 titles in the visuals dept.

Many PS3 shots shown have some AF issues as well.
newsguy
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(09-19-2006, 07:38 PM)
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Looks like one of the collossi had their hair died and posed as a soccer field.
MbGCaM
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(09-21-2006, 03:00 PM)
Is this new?


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