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April U.S. Primaries |OT| Vote in 20 Turns for World Leader

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both of those are including supers

PR has 60 pledged and 7 supers, DC has 20 pledged and 25 (!) supers

So she most likely gets 2/3 of those, and thats a net of 50+ delegates over Sanders.

At this stages in the race, that basically would wipe out his delegate gains for several of the last races.
 

LordOfChaos

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Lol this Cruz speech. "Join us as we join Republicans, and Libertarians, and [something] and Reagan Democrats", one of those had quite the qualifier lol
 

Moofers

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He only won because of the high white population vote and from what I'm reading white people are trained to vote for Bernie while black people are required to vote for Hillary.
How could I forget? We exiled all the black people when I was living there. I guess it's been a few years and I forgot the state became "whites only" just like Hawaii is "not very diverse".
 

Mrbob

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I can't stand Cruz acting like the voters of Wiscy want him as the nominee. Just don't want Trump. Exit polls have both at nearly the same level of dislike in a general election scenario.
 

rjinaz

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Watching MSNBC. LOL lose with Cruz. Republicans prepared to take the loss with Cruz to try and salvage the party.
 
So she most likely gets 2/3 of those, and thats a net of 50+ delegates over Sanders.

At this stages in the race, that basically would wipe out his delegate gains for several of the last races.

True, but I'm not sure why we're talking about DC/PR when NY/CT alone will probably provide the same margin in just a couple weeks :p
 

davepoobond

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How could I forget? We exiled all the black people when I was living there. I guess it's been a few years and I forgot the state became "whites only" just like Hawaii is "not very diverse".

any other examples? Hawaii is an awful one considering they act like their own country.
 

noshten

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CNN Wisconsin Breaking News Alert:
How will Bernie Sanders recover from this devastating series of victories?
 

seat

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Hey you guys, don't get too excited about Bernie winning because it doesn't mean anything, ok?!? Also did you know he doesn't know anything? Also he's a socialist and he's too old, and nobody wants a revolution, so just remember all that and hail the queen! YAAAASSS ABUELA!!!

If we squeal "YAS QUEEN" over and over and over again at an annoying decibel level, we can prove Hillary's the better candidate!
 

Miles X

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Last 5 states where Bernie has won have been a Caucus. Tonight was a much narrower win, as it was an open primary. Not to mention these are places that favour Bernie anyway.

New York onwards to PA, MD, CT and DE are closed primaries, the best case scenario for Hillary.
 

GYODX

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any other examples? Hawaii is an awful one considering they act like their own country.

That's the new spin?

I remember Hillary supporters here talking about how Hawaii was going to be a blowout for Hillary 'cause only white people like Sanders.
 

ApharmdX

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Even though Hillary is getting the nom, it really isn't a great look for her to be losing all these states.

No, it's not. Sanders is a 74 year old Jewish socialist. He's made it far more of a race than it should have been. Ultimately he'll lose but it's a positive sign for the party, from where I'm sitting.
 
I remember Hillary supporters here talking about how Hawaii was going to be a blowout for Hillary

re
ceipts

(and who knows what the actual margins would've been in any of those states using caucuses if they actually used a method that didn't depress the shit out of turnout, like a primary?)
 

Miles X

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The Clinton campaign contributes a statement now to the stack, accusing the Sanders camp of trying to override the will of voters:

“It seems the Sanders campaign is finally seeing the writing on the wall: Hillary has won more votes AND more pledged delegates in this election – her lead in both is nearly insurmountable,” reads a statement by campaign manager Robby Mook:

So this morning, Bernie’s campaign manager claimed the convention could be an “open convention,” and declared they’re going to try and flip delegates’ votes, overturning the will of the voters.

Your vote is your voice, and the Sanders campaign shouldn’t be trying to circumvent the process – or the nearly 9 million (and counting) people who have made their voice heard for Hillary in this election.

Shows how slimey Bernie really is, he doesn't care about democracy if he wants an open convention despite losing fair and square (I mean this doesn't even involve super delegates) he wants to overide pledged delegates decision.

He doesn't give a shit about what he's doing, he'll try anything to get into power.
 

TheFatOne

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Even though Hillary is getting the nom, it really isn't a great look for her to be losing all these states.

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GYODX

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I think Puerto Rico will be competitive for Bernie. I live here. He's got a ton of supporters.

Don't reduce it to "They're Hispanic; of course Bernie's gonna get crushed there!". Frankly, it's annoying.
 

Damerman

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Last 5 states where Bernie has won have been a Caucus. Tonight was a much narrower win, as it was an open primary. Not to mention these are places that favour Bernie anyway.

New York onwards to PA, MD, CT and DE are closed primaries, the best case scenario for Hillary.
Wouldn't this argument inherently mean that bernie would perform better in a general election since he does better in open primaries?
 

Steel

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The point is it's not over, like the opposition has been saying since day 1. How long can a point-of-view be wrong before folk start discounting it?

If Bernie wins every single solitary state going forward the way he won wisconsin, he still has less delegates than Clinton. Saying it's not over is delusional. But, whatever.
 

Miles X

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Wouldn't this argument inherently mean that bernie would perform better in a general election since he does better in open primaries?

He does better in open primaries in states that favour him.

He only ever excels in caucuses and his home state/area.
 
The point is it's not over, like the opposition has been saying since day 1.

On one hand:

Looking at the polls so far, their trend lines as we get closer to E-day, and their demographics, it's vanishingly unlikely that Sanders wins any of the six primaries that end this month (and if he does win any it's gonna be RI, by a margin too small to gain any delegates); a tie in each state makes the delegate math so absurd that he would now need to sweep every remaining state and territory by an average of 61-39.

On the other hand:

He can technically still reverse the margin! It's not over!


them's some watery-ass tea if pigeon's the only guy saying that, though
 

Miles X

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He probably didn't know it was a Caucus which right now heavily favors Sanders by a huge amount. I think there is a good story from the Seattle Times pointing out how un-diverse a caucus really is.

At least they're done as of Saturday, the end of Bernies high digit wins.
 

TheFatOne

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The point is it's not over, like the opposition has been saying since day 1. How long can a point-of-view be wrong before folk start discounting it?

It's not over it's just incredibly unlikely right now. The math right now is not in his favor. He has to win big in every state from here on out. Do you think he is actually going to win big in NY, PA, and CA? Because I don't and anyone looking at this objectively should reach the same conclusion. It's really over for Bernie barring some miracle.
 
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