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Banned
(10-13-2006,
09:34 AM)
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Follow up (Clover Dissolution) -- Shinji Mikami stays, Inaba and Hideki Kamiya leave.
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There is a thread concerning Clover's break-up, however I think (maybe more importantly) that the news nextgen biz posted up regarding Clover's three most prominent employees is more telling and deserves it's own thread.
Shinji Mikami (RE1,PN03,RE4,God Hand) will stay with Capcom...while that's cool and all the real sad news comes from the fact that Capcom's greatest developer Hideki Kamiya is leaving Capcom and not working with the company in any way, shape or form. He and Inaba want to leave Capcom and "find new challenges in new areas" as they put it. Hideki Kamiya has created only 4 games in his career, but what 4 games they were. (Resident Evil 2 '98', Devil May Cry '01', Viewtiful Joe '02' and Okami '06' -- all of which have a 92%+ at gamerankings. He probably has the highest gameranking average for all the games he's created right there with Hideo Kojima. In fact, some would say given Kamiya's more diverse creation list he's even 1up-ed the MGS - exclusive designer. For shame Capcom, the guy created your best games. You should have added an extra zero on that contract if need be. I can agree Mikami has made some great RE games, but his new IP's don't hold up so well. And considering Mikami seems to no longer have an interest in RE titles, it seems his future contribution to Capcom is up in the air. Kamiya on the other hand was creating genre defining million sellers. (global sellers to boot), the guy has no black sheep, no failure, no weak or underwheling game, he's 4 for 4, he's like the perfect game creating machine. The source material: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=3994&Itemid=2 Q: Can you explain briefly why Clover Studio has been decided to be dissolved? A: Clover Studio (CS) was established in July 2004 by Capcom in order to create new types of titles. Then, the titles such as Viewtiful Joe, Okami and God Hand were produced. At the same time, R&D at Capcom also produced some new types of titles such as Dead Rising and Lost Planet and they were regarded highly at game shows such as E3. Reviewing the existing R&D organization, we have reached the conclusion that we should be centralizing all the resources rather than running two companies. Therefore, disbandment of CS was decided. Q: We’ve heard that the famous creators such as [Resident Evil creator] Mr. [Shinji] Mikami, [Okami producer] Mr. [Atsushi] Inaba and [Devil May Cry director] Mr. [Hideki] Kamiya have quit, is this true? Why didn’t they come back to Capcom? A: Mr. Mikami had already left Capcom in November 2005 but signed on a separate contract with us. Mr. Inaba and Mr. Kamiya have also left Capcom in June and July of this year respectively. Naturally, we had hoped that Mr. Inaba and Mr. Kamiya to come back to us, however, both of them told us that they wanted a new challenge at a new environment. As far as Capcom’s concerned, now all the resources should be used more effectively and more efficiently since they are centralized. Q: Apparently, CS had 64 staff at the setup of the company, what happened to those people? A: Actually, only 15 staff [members were] still left in the company at the time of 12th October. They will be transferred to R&D at Capcom although we haven’t negotiated with them individually yet. However, we will have to examine what sort of organization is required for creating more new titles first. Q: Will copyright of the titles that were produced by CS be transferred to Capcom? A: Yes, all copyrights of the CS titles will be transferred back to Capcom as a process of disbandment of the company. Q: Can you tell us more about Mr. Inaba and Mr. Kamiya? We’ve heard that they are setting up a new company. A: Since they are not our employees any longer, we can’t answer this question. Q: Don’t you think of Mr. Mikami’s departure as a huge loss? Who’s going to produce Resident Evil series from now on? A: We have a signed contract with Mr. Mikami separately. In any case, we have many creators that have worked on Resident Evil series titles and have enough knowledge of the series. Mr. Mikami will also work in our R&D. By the way, Mr. Takeuchi is producing Resident Evil 5 (he’s worked on the original Resident Evil). EDIT: Hmmm... It seems Kamiya is sleeping with both sides...  Kamiya (on left with shades) standing next to the guy with the suit is the CEO of Capcom, Tsujimito.  And then we have (from left to right) Inaba, Kamiya, and Kojima. Ruh-oh. Kojima productions ftw? Last edited by C- Warrior : 10-14-2006 at 05:51 AM. |
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(10-13-2006,
09:43 AM)
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#8
Okami: Japanese Folklore Training DS
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mashadar's neko-mimi slave
(10-13-2006,
09:43 AM)
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#9
Originally Posted by JoJo13:
It doesn't mean anything. It just means the two founders of Clover decided to leave Capcom and so Capcom had no choice but to wind Clover up. |
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HOLY FUCKING CRAP
(10-13-2006,
09:51 AM)
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Capcom still has Mikami, Kobayashi and Inafune, now that Okamoto, Kamiya and Inaba have left.
I honestly don't know what to think. On one hand, I don't care for Kamiya that much (I don't think RE2 is the best RE, Onimusha > DMC, VJ gets old after awhile, haven't tried Okami), but on the other hand, Capcom's lost someone who directed the best selling RE and brought about Capcom's third most popular franchise. I don't think Mikami would do as well in another company or on his own, either. He's a great thinker and probably Capcom's best, but there's something about Mikami and Capcom that just wouldn't seem right if they separated. There used to be conspiracy theories years back about Mikami heading to Nintendo, but I honestly don't think he's fit there. |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
09:57 AM)
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#19
Originally Posted by Smiles and Cries:
Don't underestimate the power of the Nintendo ninjas. These guys are gonna get Matsuno'ed before they even realise what happen. That's how efficient they are. Last edited by Stormbringer : 10-13-2006 at 10:01 AM. |
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Never forget! I'm Dumb!
(10-13-2006,
10:02 AM)
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#20
Originally Posted by Blimblim:
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The Inside Track
(10-13-2006,
10:06 AM)
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#22
Originally Posted by elostyle:
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Banned
(10-13-2006,
10:07 AM)
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#23
I really want those guys starting a new company -- ground up (in similar vein as Game Republic).
Kamiya being Nintendo's lap-dog - **** that. The guy needs to do his own shit, decide what console for it to be on and so forth. Forcing him to make games for the Wii, or for the 360, or for the PS3 isn't his style. Hopefully he goes back to Capcom -- I have a feeling Capcom understands Inaba's and Kamiyas importance and will try a little bit more to secure them. |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
10:09 AM)
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#24
i'm guessing kamiya and inaba will start their own company. they must be looking at okamoto and thinking if he can make money so can they.
it doesn't make sense for them to go to another company and potentially be told what to do because they want to make the games they feel like making and they were already given this freedom (in relative terms) at capcom with clover. i think they'll be talking to sony, ms and nintendo for potential exclusives. however i'd say they will end up choosing 360 and ps3 as their main platforms with maybe a bit to wii/ds or even ignoring nintendo totally. |
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AKA MS-Evangelist
(10-13-2006,
10:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by Blimblim:
QFT.. MS should recognize the talent of these men and should try to lure them in either at MGS Japan or pull a Mistwalker on them, lettting them start a new team and start the "floodgates of funding".. (some poster said that having these guys would cost $$$.. but apparently, money isn´t exactly a problem for MS.. IF they really want something, they can pretty much outbid everyone).. |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
10:29 AM)
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#31
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So it was Capcom who put Clover on the choping block, not Inaba and Kamiya. |
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Welcome to the Wasteland.
I hope you're wearing your flak vest! (10-13-2006,
10:32 AM)
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#32
Originally Posted by Blimblim:
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(10-13-2006,
10:39 AM)
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#34
Originally Posted by Zen:
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Member
(10-13-2006,
10:39 AM)
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#35
Originally Posted by Zen:
Um, did you read the first post? Your press release is from Yesterday. Inaba and Kamiya left in June and July. They also said that they were down to 15 employees from the original 64. Sounds to me like Clover was gone long before they released your PR |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
10:59 AM)
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#36
Originally Posted by cvxfreak:
The problem there is that Capcom don't seem too keen to see Mikami back into a major production role (even for the series he created in RE), and they don't seem to recognize him as that "great thinker" or "Capcom's best". It looks to my highly insignificant opinion like he'll be on the way out in the future to Kamiya and Inaba when they set up their new studio, or maybe he'll just tough it out and climb back up the ladder at Capcom... |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
11:07 AM)
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#40
Originally Posted by Lakitu:
The possiblities. Their interviews were done in July also, which is when both of them were apparently gone from Caqcom. Last edited by SolidSnakex : 10-13-2006 at 11:12 AM. |
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(10-13-2006,
11:13 AM)
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#41
I was feeling antsy over a major upcoming exam.
I DID NOT NEED THIS THREAD. *sniffles* |
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(10-13-2006,
11:14 AM)
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#42
Idk...would Kamiya want to get in bed with MS? If they set up a studio for him, that'd be great, but the only one problem is that using his talent to create a game that's aimed at stimulating Japanese interest in the 360 doesn't automatically guarantee success (such as Okami's underwhelming sales over there). From my perspective, Kamiya prefers to be purely independent game developer now without the constraints of a big-time publisher.
Originally Posted by Error2k4:
If he did, he'd be like a lost puppy. Last edited by RyuHayate : 10-13-2006 at 11:22 AM. |
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(10-13-2006,
11:17 AM)
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#44
Originally Posted by Error2k4:
Funding? Which is why they're theorizing if MSFT or Ninty would be willing to snap them up. Talent but no resources = pipe dreams. |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
11:22 AM)
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#46
Originally Posted by Pureauthor:
It's not like they're going to have trouble finding funding for their games. Look at L5 or Game Republic (also formed by a former Capcom member). And by doing that they'll be able to develop for whatever system they want. |
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Member
(10-13-2006,
11:30 AM)
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#47
I already put the interview in original thread but yeah, this news need its own thread anyway. Imagine Inaba and Kamiya work with Kojima Production is somewhat not fit. They should create their own studio instead. It's not different to work with another studio/company when the freedom they will be gave could be less than Clover or Capcom.
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(10-13-2006,
11:39 AM)
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#50
Originally Posted by DarknessTear:
Screw that, 2.5D castlevania FTW. |
