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Armadilo
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(06-29-2016, 05:52 AM)
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40 Million PS4 install base



The total number of active PlayStation Network users is over 60 million in total. Therefore, 1/3rd of active users pay for PS Plus



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Credit to Zhuge for the work. I'm lazy
SHAFT MASTER
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(06-29-2016, 05:53 AM)
Congrats so Sony I guess?
3rdamention
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(06-29-2016, 05:53 AM)
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That's a lot of MAUs..God Bless the MAUs...


Amazing numbers considering they just add online play less than 3 years ago...
Nightengale
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(06-29-2016, 05:53 AM)
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For context, they've been maintaining an approximate 50% attach rate of PS+ vs no of PS4s sold from launch till now.
Collingwood
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(06-29-2016, 05:53 AM)
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Is that just PS4 subs?

Or across all 3 platforms. Because that would seem incredibly low if all 3.
Welfare
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(06-29-2016, 05:54 AM)
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Originally Posted by Collingwood

Is that just PS4 subs?

Or across all 3 platforms. Because that would seem incredibly low if all 3.

They have never specified just PS4 subs I think.
thekonamicode
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(06-29-2016, 05:54 AM)
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Thanks to @ZhugeEX for putting all this info on Twitter.
Nightengale
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(06-29-2016, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Collingwood

Is that just PS4 subs?

Or across all 3 platforms. Because that would seem incredibly low if all 3.

All 3.

But anecdotally speaking, before the paywall, it was implied that PS+ on PS3 and Vita had less than 5 million subs.
Armadilo
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(06-29-2016, 05:55 AM)

Originally Posted by Collingwood

Is that just PS4 subs?

Or across all 3 platforms. Because that would seem incredibly low if all 3.

PS3 and Vita are pratically dead so yeah I would and you would think it's all PS4
Admiral Woofington
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(06-29-2016, 05:55 AM)
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That's a lot of "this month sucks when will I get AAA instead of Indie" at a time.
Boke1879
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(06-29-2016, 05:56 AM)
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Originally Posted by Collingwood

Is that just PS4 subs?

Or across all 3 platforms. Because that would seem incredibly low if all 3.

Considering you need it for PS4. I think it's fine. It's a big driver of revenue I'd assume as well, and that number will only go up.
thekonamicode
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(06-29-2016, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Admiral Woofington

That's a lot of "this month sucks when will I get AAA instead of Indie" at a time.

I mean, a lot of those people probably just want to play online matches in Call of Duty, Destiny, GTA V, Battlefield, Madden and NBA 2kX.
BitterFigDanette
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(06-29-2016, 05:57 AM)
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And Knack is not even on the service yet.

Hope Sony keeps investing in solo experiences
True Fire
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(06-29-2016, 05:57 AM)
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I'll never have to buy another Indie game
Laughing Banana
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(06-29-2016, 05:57 AM)
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All that money, and PSN is still shit from time to time.
FTF
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(06-29-2016, 05:59 AM)
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That's a cool $1b a year
Off-Kilter
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(06-29-2016, 05:59 AM)

Originally Posted by Admiral Woofington

That's a lot of "this month sucks when will I get AAA instead of Indie" at a time.

I think online multiplayer is a bigger draw for most people than IGC.
texhnolyze
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(06-29-2016, 06:01 AM)

Originally Posted by Laughing Banana

All that money, and PSN is still shit from time to time.

Better fund something else that is more important for them.
GobFather
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(06-29-2016, 06:02 AM)
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Good numbers
Xenus
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(06-29-2016, 06:02 AM)

Originally Posted by FTF

That's a cool $1b a year

Not quite due to sales and people stocking up during sales etc. Though I guess it also matters where those subs are coming from and the currency valuation.
BitterFigDanette
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(06-29-2016, 06:03 AM)
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Originally Posted by Xenus

Not quite due to sales and people stocking up during sales etc. Though I guess it also matters where those subs are coming from and the currency valuation.

There really aren't that many ps+ sales.
Armadilo
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(06-29-2016, 06:03 AM)

Originally Posted by Laughing Banana

All that money, and PSN is still shit from time to time.

You won't get a Powers season 3 without that money, praise the lord
Kolx
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(06-29-2016, 06:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by Laughing Banana

All that money, and PSN is still shit from time to time.

It's at least much better than it used to be in the PS3 days.
Ushay
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(06-29-2016, 06:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by Laughing Banana

All that money, and PSN is still shit from time to time.

I wonder what is being done to improve that infrastructure. They don't have the best backbone for networks at the moment, the PSN sub numbers is a great opportunity to put that into big changes,
Crayon
(06-29-2016, 06:05 AM)
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Everyone cancel tonite and this will be free in a week.

By then I'll have a plan to get our billion back.
Admiral Woofington
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(06-29-2016, 06:05 AM)
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Originally Posted by BitterFigDanette

There really aren't that many ps+ sales.

Yeah the big one was like 2-3 years ago when Walmart and other retailers had the cards for cheaper during black Friday. Since then all I find is very small discounts or limited supplies in one site
Armadilo
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(06-29-2016, 06:06 AM)
Sony will continue to invest in Original Content for PlayStation in order to reach a broad user base.



-Zhuge again , I really need to know how to recreate images on tweets
Jarod McChicken
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(06-29-2016, 06:06 AM)
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SwiftDeath
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(06-29-2016, 06:06 AM)
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That's a pretty good revenue stream
SlimySnake
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(06-29-2016, 06:07 AM)
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$50 * 21 million = $1.1 BILLION

All that cash and they still give us indie games every month.

I love how they were able to give us AAA games barely a year after launch with only 2 million subscribers last year.
SatoAilDarko
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(06-29-2016, 06:07 AM)
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That seems pretty low. At most (and possibly less) than half of PS4 users can't play online multiplayer.

Yet games like COD and Destiny are some of the most popular.
Carpo
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(06-29-2016, 06:08 AM)
Pity they don't use the money made from PS+ to improve the service
Xenus
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(06-29-2016, 06:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Admiral Woofington

Yeah the big one was like 2-3 years ago when Walmart and other retailers had the cards for cheaper during black Friday. Since then all I find is very small discounts or limited supplies in one site

Yeah 39.99 seems to be the best it gets anymore when it used to be 19.99 or 29.99
Armadilo
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(06-29-2016, 06:09 AM)

Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

That seems pretty low. At most (and possibly less) than half of PS4 users can't play online multiplayer.

Yet games like COD and Destiny are some of the most popular.

People play COD for the campaign/Single Player
outunderthestars
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(06-29-2016, 06:12 AM)

Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

That seems pretty low. At most (and possibly less) than half of PS4 users can't play online multiplayer.

Yet games like COD and Destiny are some of the most popular.

It is an increasing thing to consider when talking about the market for online multiplayer!ayer PS4 games....
endlessflood
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(06-29-2016, 06:13 AM)

Originally Posted by Crayon

Everyone cancel tonite and this will be free in a week.

By then I'll have a plan to get our billion back.

#PSPlexit

On a more serious note, I get nearly 110mbps downloads off PSN, so kudos to Sony for that. I would really like to feel that I get more for my money though, it's time for higher profile PS+ titles on the PS4.
bobawesome
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(06-29-2016, 06:14 AM)
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People really want to play multiplayer. Because they're sure as hell not subscribing for the "free" games.
Simply Sami
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(06-29-2016, 06:16 AM)

Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

That seems pretty low. At most (and possibly less) than half of PS4 users can't play online multiplayer.

Yet games like COD and Destiny are some of the most popular.

It's not low.

Xbox live tends to be high because it sells mainly in UK and USA mainly. Most the people in those countries have decent enough broadband to play online.

PS4 sells well in Africa, India and other countries that do not have good enough broadband for people to go online with.

Then you have others who simply do not want to pay for it.

That's around 750m a year they making from Ps plus. Crazy how much money they lost out from last gen. Yet people seem to think MS is going to make Xbox live free. Without Xbox live income you can say goodbye to the gaming division at MS. That is the most profitable thing in the division.
tiebreaker
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(06-29-2016, 06:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Armadilo

Sony will continue to invest in Original Content for PlayStation in order to reach a broad user base.



-Zhuge again , I really need to know how to recreate images on tweets

Is powers any good??
Blackleg-sanji1
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(06-29-2016, 06:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Armadilo

Sony will continue to invest in Original Content for PlayStation in order to reach a broad user base.



-Zhuge again , I really need to know how to recreate images on tweets

Was wondering when they'd do more original shows I'm probably one of the few that enjoys powers. Season 2 has been a lot better
Xenus
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(06-29-2016, 06:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Armadilo

Sony will continue to invest in Original Content for PlayStation in order to reach a broad user base.



-Zhuge again , I really need to know how to recreate images on tweets

He's just tweeting images from the PDF that was linked earlier in the thread.
jiggle
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(06-29-2016, 06:26 AM)
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What's the mau mau though?
thuway
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(06-29-2016, 06:29 AM)
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I hope this profit motivates Sony to be more bullish with internal studio growth and hardware innovation.

But first can we get a PSN name change tho?
BlueDevil
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(06-29-2016, 06:33 AM)
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Big numbers. But can they improve PSN and give us more non-indie games?
Neuromancer
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(06-29-2016, 06:33 AM)
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I wonder what Xbox Live Gold subscriptions are at, these days. I would expect to see an inverse relationship.
LordofPwn
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(06-29-2016, 06:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by Armadilo

Sony will continue to invest in Original Content for PlayStation in order to reach a broad user base.



-Zhuge again , I really need to know how to recreate images on tweets

Broadening the reach of a brand is always a good idea on paper but could end up weakening it if they lose sight of the original appeal. Right now the Playstation brand is doing great, I'd argue they're reaching the peak.
orthodoxy1095
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(06-29-2016, 06:39 AM)
But Sony should put their games on PC. Totally wouldn't effect their service growth.
MUnited83
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(06-29-2016, 06:40 AM)
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a shame they aren't using the money to make psn less crappy then.
Windforce
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(06-29-2016, 06:40 AM)
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The growth of "Network Sales" looks scary high. Digital adoption looks unstoppable.

I'm a PS+ subscriber since 2012(?) now, pretty happy with the service. I wonder all the time why people complain so much about PSN, I can play just fine anytime I want with rare exceptions, and I'm online everyday a damn lot of time.
Creaking
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(06-29-2016, 06:41 AM)
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That's what gating online play gets you, I guess.

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