PeskyToaster
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Is Sonic a joke to you?
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AquaWateria
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Just like any other series.
did the sega fans beat you up on the playground
LiveFromKyoto
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Yes. I don't know how anyone can continue to care.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Yes. It's been a joke for almost two decades.
omgwtfbentime
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Nah, I think sonic jokes are blown way out of proportion and just because a series has some not so great entries doesn't discredit the great ones. Its a mismanaged franchise on Sega's part, but Sonic team when given the resources and time does great work. Sonic Colors and Generations do a type of gameplay literally no other developer has attempted that I happen to really enjoy. I love time based challenging platformers and sonic just scratches that itch for me.
Huge fan of Sonic growing up and I think the Genesis games are my favorite 2D platformers of all time.
Yes, yes it is. Little of it has to do with the awful games(although they do help) and more of it has to do with the crazy fanbase. Which is out there to say the least.
The best thing to happen to Sonic is becoming a meme, kinda like John Cena.
Yes, yes it is. Little of it has to do with the awful games(although they do help) and more of it has to do with the crazy fanbase. Which is out there to say the least.
The best thing to happen to Sonic is becoming a meme, kinda like John Cena.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
According to your list, the shitty ones have been all of them in the last 17 years except two.
That's joke territory, son.
Generally speaking I may agree with you, but I played Adventure and Adventure 2 and think they are bad. There are so many other interesting games to give my attention to. Things get dicey when arguing that if people liked one thing less they would have more time to like another thing, but I may feel that way about Sonic. For example, NiGHTS and Burning Rangers should have some of the fanbase Sonic has but they do not. I get that it isn't a zero sum game and this is somewhat an emotional argument.
Funny enough, I use what you just said in "worst console" threads to argue against the idea of declaring consoles shitty instead of trying to find worthwhile games on them.
AquaWateria
Member
Just like how some people continue to care about the Wii U, Metroid, F Zero, and Paper Mario.
Anyone can care about a franchise or product they like, the fuck.
I have my own biases based on being a Nintendo kid from the start but the thing that cemented Sonic into joke status was 2k6. An anniversary game meant to celebrate Sonic. Usher in a new generation. A reboot of the franchise by taking the title of the first game.
It was legacy tarnishing bad that Sega allowed that game to ship like that.
It was legacy tarnishing bad that Sega allowed that game to ship like that.
redmetal86
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Yes. Why? Because he chuckles, unlike Knuckles.
HERE I COME, ROUGHER THAN THE REST OF THEM.
HERE I COME, ROUGHER THAN THE REST OF THEM.
Chronospherics
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I would say Sonic Colours, Sonic and Sega All Stars Racing, and Racing Transformed are brilliant games.
Sonic Generations has some of the worst boss fights of video game history, though. So it completely ruins the experience.
Necromanti
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Sonic is trash. But I wouldn't have it any other way. Gaming's lovable little embarrassment.
Dee Dah Dave
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I only really cared for the first one. Nintendo and their platformers were more my thing back in the day. The later Sonic games are all easily missable.
ShockingAlberto
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I don't think those games are bad. I think they're all certainly above average. I remember saying Generations was better than Uncharted 3 when they were both out around the same time, though history has made me a bit kinder to UC3 and a bit harsher on Generations than when I first played them.
But brilliant is overselling them by a lot.
It comes with being a fan of the franchise; it had so many past blunders with 06, Chronicles, Sonic Genesis, Boom Wii U and Shadow the Hedgehog that few respect it. So if you like the series, you have to be open to people saying 'Sonic is dead', 'It was never good', 'Only the Genesis games were good' and 'Why does he have green eyes?!'.
I'm okay with Sonic being a 'joke' to others, as he isn't to me. Remember, I made a very long retrospective series on Gaf that shockingly got few posts or sour comments; people enjoyed talking about the series in a bright light.
Sonic is a great series I really love and hope to see it continue for another 25 years in the future
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I'm okay with Sonic being a 'joke' to others, as he isn't to me. Remember, I made a very long retrospective series on Gaf that shockingly got few posts or sour comments; people enjoyed talking about the series in a bright light.
Sonic is a great series I really love and hope to see it continue for another 25 years in the future
.Hypemaster
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The internet ruined Sonic for me, I automatically break into a smile/chuckle every time I see a topic about Sonic being brought up.
Andrew Evenstar
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Yes. I haven't even considered buying a sonic game in 20 years.
Astral Dog
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He became kind of a joke to me after Adventure 2, with the dreadful trilogy of Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 2006.despite a few good ideas in there.
Then got alittle better but now its a joke again with SONIC BOOM (literally).
Now even the handheld versions are bad after becoming 3D.
He is just not a funny joke :'(
Then got alittle better but now its a joke again with SONIC BOOM (literally).
Now even the handheld versions are bad after becoming 3D.
He is just not a funny joke :'(
Dimitri LH
Member
I'm okay with Sonic being a 'joke' to others, as he isn't to me. Remember, I made a very long retrospective series on Gaf that shockingly got few posts or sour comments; people enjoyed talking about the series in a bright light.
Sonic is a great series I really love and hope to see it continue for another 25 years in the future
Still think you deserve a tag for these man.
BurgerDicks
Banned
Please direct me to the sites where i can marry other digital creatures as fine as these.
Surprised I never got one myself XD.
ShockingAlberto
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I don't think the argument against Sonic fans is entirely fair as a means to dismiss the series.
But you can absolutely point to Sega directly trying to appeal to them with the "Let's put a bat with huge tits and spandex as a playable character" decision and then the two become harder to separate.
But you can absolutely point to Sega directly trying to appeal to them with the "Let's put a bat with huge tits and spandex as a playable character" decision and then the two become harder to separate.
OnimaruXLR
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There's two things that I think did more damage to Sonic as a "brand" than anything else:
1) The Saturn period. Absence might make the heart grow fonder, but momentum keeps franchises afloat.
2) The post-Sonic Heroes period. 2006 and Shadow in particular. Those games are bad in the way that people who defend them come across as crazy.
But really, there's just a lack of quality control in general that makes it so that rational people don't expect much from Sonic games. And even when Sega looks like it might get their act together, out comes something like Sonic Boom.
Sonic is a joke to me in the same way McDonalds is. I might eat it once and a while and even enjoy it, but I'd never, ever get excited about it, and will mock it openly
1) The Saturn period. Absence might make the heart grow fonder, but momentum keeps franchises afloat.
2) The post-Sonic Heroes period. 2006 and Shadow in particular. Those games are bad in the way that people who defend them come across as crazy.
But really, there's just a lack of quality control in general that makes it so that rational people don't expect much from Sonic games. And even when Sega looks like it might get their act together, out comes something like Sonic Boom.
Sonic is a joke to me in the same way McDonalds is. I might eat it once and a while and even enjoy it, but I'd never, ever get excited about it, and will mock it openly
SinCityAssassin
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In a cosmic sort of way, yes.
I dunno, maybe it's because I was young at the time, but Rouge seemed to come around before the furry-fetish side of the Sonic fandom was nearly as large or infamous as it later came to be. (She's also been almost entirely sidelined in the franchise for about a decade, too.)
I also don't think the fanbase argument would be nearly as widespread if Sonic games had been good. There's plenty of weird fetishy Undertale art, and there's definitely a segment of people that hate Undertale because of the fanbase, but most people don't care because Undertale's great.
Astral Dog
Member
Huh Rouge the Bat is far from the worst in Sonic games/media imo .
At least she was ok in SA2 and Heroes.
ShirAhava
Plays with kids toys, in the adult gaming world
Sonic is the only reason I play home video games before the sega genesis was released the aracde was the place to be and people who had an NES were looked at as nerds genesis/sonic made gaming 'cool' for me and my friends everyone in my neighborhood had a genesis back then. I didn't know Nintendo was so popular until I went on the internet.
Harothewanderer
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Yes, the biggest. And I legitimately love him for that.
Never forget Dave Halverson's 9/10 Sonic 2006 review for Play Magazine.
It's like EGM's 9/10 review for Aliens: Colonial Marines. How does such a thing even happen?
Um, what about Sonic Heroes? Sonic Unleashed? Sonic Colors? Sonic & All Stars Racing Series? Sonic Generations? The Entire GBA and DS handheld titles? The Game Gear Platformers?
I can understand people making fun of Sonic, it can be fun I agree. But the series RELEASED good games after the Genesis Era. That era had shit games too. Sonic Blast painfully comes to mind X(.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
Member
Nope he is a legend
IMO too many people focuses on secondary aspects like story, character design, etc. For me the fundamental components of the true brilliant Sonic experience were three: momentum-based gameplay + great level design + great music/art.
And no game since the Genesis ones have had all of that. No game since the Genesis ones feels fun only by moving the character and goofing around (just like the Mario games have felt from its day until now).
And no game since the Genesis ones have had all of that. No game since the Genesis ones feels fun only by moving the character and goofing around (just like the Mario games have felt from its day until now).
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