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Will we have to rebuy our digital titles on the NX? Can Nintendo get away with it?
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TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
I have so much stuff still on my Wii. Which is starting to break down. All those games lost in time.
I'm done buying digital, other then the rare case.
I'm done buying digital, other then the rare case.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Nintendo won't listen on this issue. They'll do what they want as usual, and I predict Wii U style upgrade fees.
Whatever Nintendo decides to do, it's up to the user to decide whether they will participate. However, if you decide to not pay the upgrade fee for your VC game, please recognize that the decision you're making is strictly whether that functionality is worth the money to you or not. I wouldn't make the decision based on any kind of "sending a message" mentality, because that is a fool's errand with Nintendo. If you abstain from upgrading, at the end of the day all you'll have is $3 extra in your account and no NX version of your game. Given that, I'll probably upgrade my games if given the opportunity.
Kinda hard to tell at this moment.
They were the only ones that offered full backwards compatibility with physical and digital items.
The upgrade fee was optional for the perks of the Wii U, but you could still play them on Wii mode.
But without backwards comlatibility....maybe?
360 games are added to Xbox One at no additional costs.
PS3/PS2 games on PS4 recquire either purchase or rental. There are some few cross buy titles though.
They were the only ones that offered full backwards compatibility with physical and digital items.
The upgrade fee was optional for the perks of the Wii U, but you could still play them on Wii mode.
But without backwards comlatibility....maybe?
360 games are added to Xbox One at no additional costs.
PS3/PS2 games on PS4 recquire either purchase or rental. There are some few cross buy titles though.
boiled goose
good with gravy
This is the single biggest thing that will keep me from buying an NX.
I did not buy a single digital WiiU game for this reason. I have not bought a 3DS for this reason.
WE NEED A PROPER UNIFIED NINTENDO ACCOUNT.
You don't have to rebuy your steam games every time you buy a new computer.
I did not buy a single digital WiiU game for this reason. I have not bought a 3DS for this reason.
WE NEED A PROPER UNIFIED NINTENDO ACCOUNT.
You don't have to rebuy your steam games every time you buy a new computer.
I meant in terms of their own platforms. TG16 took forever, so long that we weren't even really expecting it anymore.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
The hell are you on op?
I can play all of my VC games bought on Wii on WiiU just fine at no additional cost. Then, for a small upgrade fee, I can decide if I want to upgrade to get WiiU's specific features for the titles which offer such upgrades.
Meanwhile on my PS4 I can't play any of the shitton of PS1/2 Classics I've bought over the years and if I want to play the titles I've already paid for which have been re-released with PS4's specific features I'm expected to play 20 fucking euros.
Microsoft has been doing it right.
I can play all of my VC games bought on Wii on WiiU just fine at no additional cost. Then, for a small upgrade fee, I can decide if I want to upgrade to get WiiU's specific features for the titles which offer such upgrades.
Meanwhile on my PS4 I can't play any of the shitton of PS1/2 Classics I've bought over the years and if I want to play the titles I've already paid for which have been re-released with PS4's specific features I'm expected to play 20 fucking euros.
Microsoft has been doing it right.
TheGamingBox
Banned
neither when you buy a another wiiu or 3ds
Schnozberry
Member
DeNA was assisting them with building a new account system that would traverse both mobile games and dedicated devices.
I have no idea if they'll make people buy games again, but I'd be most excited about a potential VC Subscription Service.
KillerDark
Member
Of course they will, look at every other gaming company. They all do the same thing. How many versions of the classic final fantasy games are out there now?
Reckheim
Member
Neither Sony or Nintendo is making you buy anything; you bought a ps2 game for a ps3 system, no one promised you it would work on a ps4.
Labombadog
Member
Expect to buy your digital games once again. Sucks but that's Ninty for you.
omg trophies! rebuying redeemed
I've only spent $6 on it and have all 3 VC releases.
The games you bought for Wii, both physical and digital can be played on the Wii U for no extra cost, the fact that you need to boot in Wii mode is a technicality and an inconvenience at worst.
I'm not defending the upgrade cost (nor am I fundamentally against it in theory), the fact of the matter is every company does some good stuff and some bad stuff for the consumers, singling out Nintendo as far as rebuying digital titles goes when they're the ones who allow you to play them on Wii U for free while most (every?) digital game you bought on PS3 doesn't work on PS4 seems like a very lopsided way to look at things.
Exactly. Instead of complaining people should simply boycott it. But they won't so it will never stop.
They're companies which will try to amass as much fortune as possible, hard to blame them.
calc84maniac
Member
Didn't they render N64 games in HD on Wii U, or am I imagining it?
Consoles further back than that had pixel art so those wouldn't make sense.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
I don't see why they wouldn't. Personally, I won't buy them again, but some will. Digital purchases didn't transfer from the 360 or PS3, after all.
I would expect though that all purchases from now on would be BC with future consoles.
I would expect though that all purchases from now on would be BC with future consoles.
n64 games are a little more dark, and thats it
Spieler Eins
Member
It's going to be easy to determine whether to bother with NX or not early on, based on whether they offer crossbuy, proper accounts, lift region lock, etc. Things like that are some of the easiest things to build goodwill early on among hardcore gamers. However, if they stick with their archaic anti-consumer systems, I'm not expecting them to start respecting their costumers again in other areas either.
If they can guarantee my purchases are forward compatible then i'll rebuy everything no questions asked. Hell, I'll buy more than I have bought prior.
If not, I'll skip out on VC again and just keep playing them on my wii, which i begrudgingly still have hooked up just for this reason.
If not, I'll skip out on VC again and just keep playing them on my wii, which i begrudgingly still have hooked up just for this reason.
If people stopped being mugs about it then companies wouldn't keep doing it.
If you get people buying the same games each gen for a tenner, of course they'll do it again and again.
GusZamboni
Member
you actually did, pay a small fee of 1,50 dollars
TheGamingBox
Banned
no you didnt, you could transfer the wii vc and wiiware titles to wiiu wii mode is what he meant
I would imagine VC is very easy to get working and shouldn't need repurchasing.
WiiU won't be given BC on NX apparently and that is pretty shit, justifying my reasoning on not getting it. So you will have to re-buy those games if they are on NX I guess.
My hope is that somehow they will be able to guarantee perpetuity for future hardware somehow concerning digital sales. It's doubtful, but if they did it I would be able to consider getting an NX
WiiU won't be given BC on NX apparently and that is pretty shit, justifying my reasoning on not getting it. So you will have to re-buy those games if they are on NX I guess.
My hope is that somehow they will be able to guarantee perpetuity for future hardware somehow concerning digital sales. It's doubtful, but if they did it I would be able to consider getting an NX
Yes and no.
No in that you can play every Wii game on Wii U at no additional cost. They played exactly the same and at 480p.
Yes in that in case of re-released Virtual Console games, you could pay an upgrade fee to play them with Miiverse integration, controller mapping, screenshot sharing, etc.
ViolentP
Member
Miiverse integration, controller mapping, screenshot sharing.
This should all be free.
Calm waterfall
Banned
That´s not the same at all. All PS1 games i bought digitally on PSP are playable on the PS3 and Vita for free. I don´t have to pay for them again.
TheGamingBox
Banned
and yet the ps2 classics you bought on ps3 can not be played on ps4 without rebuying them, its the same thing
Same as trophies in PS2 games, and some say that warrants enough to pay $20.
Not saying I liked it (I don't rebuy VC games), just pointing out that you can play every Wii game anyway on Wii U, without upgrade fees.
Pipe dream.
Polioliolio
Member
Nintendo can eat it. I bought at least a dozen or more virtual console games on Wii. The moment I realized I'd have to buy them again, I cut that shit out quick.
People like steam because they have all their games on one account which can transfer between PC upgrades, and more people are jumping on the PC train than ever. Nintendo needs to get with the program.
If they really wanted to stick to this bullshit, they missed an opportunity for the NES mini to be a virtual console exclusive machine.. Somehow buying games exclusively for an HD NES doesn't seem as disastrous as buying them on a Wii or Wii u.
Ah well. I don't have high expectations. Keep expectations low with Nintendo, and you will occasionally be thrilled.
People like steam because they have all their games on one account which can transfer between PC upgrades, and more people are jumping on the PC train than ever. Nintendo needs to get with the program.
If they really wanted to stick to this bullshit, they missed an opportunity for the NES mini to be a virtual console exclusive machine.. Somehow buying games exclusively for an HD NES doesn't seem as disastrous as buying them on a Wii or Wii u.
Ah well. I don't have high expectations. Keep expectations low with Nintendo, and you will occasionally be thrilled.
Calm waterfall
Banned
That´s shit as well. One should not buy the same games over and over just because one bought a new system.
ViolentP
Member
Correct. Paying for trophies is also just as absurd. The point here being is that as generations go by, console owners are getting more and more otherwise free features put behind the paywall. And the only ones worse than those exacerbating the situation by paying for these things are those that justify it. Consoles are headed in a bad direction in this regard.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
If NX does indeed offer emulated classic titles, and that emulation is good (i.e., no shitty dark filters or input lag like the Wii U offerings), I might consider buying the less common games, or games that are otherwise prohibitively expensive to buy the originals.
Otherwise, no. I already have most classic titles I want in their original form, playing in the original consoles. So I won't be buying those on NX regardless.
Otherwise, no. I already have most classic titles I want in their original form, playing in the original consoles. So I won't be buying those on NX regardless.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
If they do transfer over for free, that would be nice. That's the way it should be.
But if they don't transfer, they will be full price. Why? Because an small upgrade fee on Wii U was essential in getting users to pay for the same game a second time on the same console. If they were simply offering a discount as a favor to those who already purchased the license, then the same discount would've been offered between shared Wii U and 3DS VC games.
But if they don't transfer, they will be full price. Why? Because an small upgrade fee on Wii U was essential in getting users to pay for the same game a second time on the same console. If they were simply offering a discount as a favor to those who already purchased the license, then the same discount would've been offered between shared Wii U and 3DS VC games.
The Real Napsta
Member
Highly unlikely.
IrishNinja
Member
^this
...for real?
look, we got NES games once in GC Animal Crossing, around the time people were rebuying them on GBA. they're done tossing these things about without $ man
JetSetRadio
Banned
I don't expect much from a 199 handheld tv out. Let us first see if there is a proper account system.
Digital 360 purchases that are BC on the Xbox One transfer automatically and can be installed easily via the "My Games and Apps" section.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
What's nice is they automatically show up on your Xbox One.