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Jimmyfenix
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(09-12-2016, 06:56 PM)
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It’s been a pretty good time for fan games. We’ve had a full scale remake of Metroid 2 and an amazing tribute to Sonic the Hedgehog. Only one of these games has been taken down by corporate forces. Last week, the Game Grumps played Green Hill Paradise Act 2. Sega noticed. And gave a big thumbs up.

Instead of rallying lawyers or striking the Game Grumps and Green Hill Paradise Act 2's team with a copyright claim under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, official Sega social media outreach actively encouraged fans to make more games and content.

On the other side of this coin is Nintendo. They took down Metroid 2 remake AM2R, were hitting enough download sites that the creators of Pokemon Uranium felt they needed to take their game down, placed a strike against the fan mash up No Mario’s Sky and even removed hundreds of fan titles from Game Jolt. Now, the Game Jolt matter was a bit fraught. The site was making advertisement revenue while hosting those particular games. Still, the difference is night and day when it comes to fan games overall.

http://kotaku.com/sega-takes-shot-at...-ma-1786527246
ArchedThunder
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(09-12-2016, 06:57 PM)
Sega does what Nintendon't
KainXVIII
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(09-12-2016, 06:58 PM)
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INB4 salty nintendo fans reacts..
Dremark
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(09-12-2016, 06:58 PM)
They need more people they can use to develop official Sonic games.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
liquidtmd
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(09-12-2016, 06:58 PM)

Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

Sega does what Nintendon't

Fans do what Sega don't
MatrixMan.EXE
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(09-12-2016, 06:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

Sega does what Nintendon't

Came in wanting this to be the first post. I am satisfied.
DeathSparks
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(09-12-2016, 06:58 PM)
Bless
InsaneTiger
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(09-12-2016, 06:59 PM)
Hi Nintendo!
Toxi
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(09-12-2016, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by KainXVIII

INB4 salty nintendo fans reacts..

"Doesn't Sega know they have to defend their IP? They could lose the rights to Sonic any day now!"
sixteen-bit
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(09-12-2016, 06:59 PM)

Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

Sega does what Nintendon't

One and done.

It's really night an day.
Ferr986
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(09-12-2016, 06:59 PM)
They have always been fine with Sonic fan games, even Sonic hacks from the original MD games.

SoRR was the exception here.

Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

Like Metroid.
Outrun
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(09-12-2016, 06:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

Lol

If I was not laughing, I would cry.
Solid SOAP
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(09-12-2016, 07:00 PM)
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They need something good out there to get fans excited for Sonic, cuz they sure as hell ain't makin it!

Generations was one of my most played games last console gen and Mania looks like a dream come true :P I'm not sold just yet but I'm holding out for the 2017 game!
Alex_Mexico
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(09-12-2016, 07:01 PM)
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I finished AM2R just yesterday making it my first Metrod game I ever beat with 100% and I loved every second of it to the point that I can say AM2R is not only the first good Metroid game in almost a decade but also my favorite 2D Metroid ever made. Super Metroid can eat it's 1994 heart out.

When I was playin it all I could think of is how this game could've easily passed for an official first party title. It's that good.

If only Nintendo would've given this game the Sonic CD treatment and hire the guy making it and make it an official release. Work with your fans. Not against them.
Dunkley
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(09-12-2016, 07:01 PM)

Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans can do what Sega don't

FTFY.

Since that's the important thing about it. Eyeing Sonic Mania one could only dream how great it would be to have AM2R released as an official product with the team behind it being able to develop further games that spread from the same roots.
RockmanBN
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(09-12-2016, 07:01 PM)
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Love those hacks. Sonic 1 Omochao edition was hilarious.
Kouriozan
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(09-12-2016, 07:02 PM)
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As it should be.
deriks
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(09-12-2016, 07:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

Sega does what Nintendon't

Oh, yes
ElectricBlanketFire
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(09-12-2016, 07:02 PM)
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I wouldn't say it's a shot at Nintendo as the article's title suggests. Just Sega being cool.
Chinner
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Considering what's happening with Sonic Mania, maybe Sega is trying to encourage this as they could be the next generation of developers.
Air
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Well Sega has always been fairly loose with sonic (look at all the fan drawings and stuff).

Sonic is a valuable IP, and sega can do what they want with it, but that doesn't mean Nintendo is wrong in protecting their ip.
epmode
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(09-12-2016, 07:02 PM)
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What will they say when a judge strips the Sonic IP from them because they're not suing/DMCAing everything in sight? Gotta protect your IP or you lose it, right?

(No, you're not forced to threaten fan game devs to protect your IP. Nintendo's just being dumb and backwards again.)
Memory
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Well someones got to try make a decent Sonic game.
-Mutsukki-
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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While I don't think Nintendo was ever wrong for trying to handle their IP, I sure hope they're taking notes. The more the competition rubs salt in their wound the better
MrBadger
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Wasn't sure if the first post would be a snarky comment against Nintendo or a snarky comment against official Sonic games

Anyway, good on them for encouraging fan talent. We wouldn't have Sonic Mania if it wasn't for their attitude towards fan games.
Jhn
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Is the Sonic twitter and youtube handled by the same people? They are both great.
RomanceDawn
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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I don't blame Sega or Nintendo for doing what they are doing.

With Nintendo I understand it's reasons for wanting to protect it's property. With Sega I understand them letting Sonic fans just go nuts. There have been so many missteps with Sonic, if a fan makes something that just catches fire that makes total sense for Sonic gameplay I could easily see Sega happily "borrowing" ideas for later.
SunBroDave
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by ArchedThunder

Sega does what Nintendon't

Perfection
NOLA_Gaffer
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(09-12-2016, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by KainXVIII

INB4 salty nintendo fans reacts..

Nah, that's just salty Metroid fans.
johancruijff
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(09-12-2016, 07:04 PM)
R10Neymarfan
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Cool since 06 is blacklisted and this came out. Then Sonic 06 PC by Gistix should be good. Also I guess this draws into Project Beat and JSRF
RichiRamjag
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(09-12-2016, 07:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

Pretty much it.
Sciz
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(09-12-2016, 07:05 PM)
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This is the same company that went to the trouble of officially supporting ROM hacks on Steam. They're pretty cool like that.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Originally Posted by -Mutsukki-

While I don't think Nintendo was ever wrong for trying to handle their IP, I sure hope they're taking notes. The more the competition rubs salt in their wound the better

They haven't been competitors for 15 years.
TriAceJP
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(09-12-2016, 07:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chinner

Considering what's happening with Sonic Mania, maybe Sega is trying to encourage this as they could be the next generation of developers.

That's what I'm seeing as well. Whitehead got his start by writing his own ports of Sonic games.
Toxi
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(09-12-2016, 07:06 PM)

Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

Fans make the Metroid Nintenwon't.
ElectricBlanketFire
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(09-12-2016, 07:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chinner

Considering what's happening with Sonic Mania, maybe Sega is trying to encourage this as they could be the next generation of developers.

What's happening with it?
NOLA_Gaffer
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(09-12-2016, 07:07 PM)
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What Sega should be doing is encouraging fan games of the hundreds of other IP they've just been sitting on for two-plus decades doing nothing with.

We've already got enough Sonic games, both fan-made and official. Let's bring back Space Channel 5, Golden Axe, Ristar, and all the other forgotten Sega properties.
Piccoro
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(09-12-2016, 07:07 PM)
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But, but, Streets of Rage Remake?...
Yukinari
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Right now Kimishima is trying to hire the Sonic PR guy as we speak.
MrBadger
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

What Sega should be doing is encouraging fan games of the hundreds of other IP they've just been sitting on for two-plus decades doing nothing with.

We've already got enough Sonic games, both fan-made and official. Let's bring back Space Channel 5, Golden Axe, Ristar, and all the other forgotten Sega properties.

Well, there was that one Streets of Rage thing...
SinCityAssassin
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Sonic Sez Keep Making Those Games So Sega Won't Have To.

(Nah I kid, this is neat.)
Grim Patron
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

And we are done.
VendettaRed07
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

Too bad Nintendo fans can't do what Nintendon't as well
Yasumi
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(09-12-2016, 07:08 PM)

Originally Posted by ElectricBlanketFire

I wouldn't say it's a shot at Nintendo as the article's title suggests. Just Sega being cool.

The "BRB, DMCA time" is a direct reference to Nintendo's recent practices. I'd call that a shot.
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Sega are idiots.

I now have the rights to Sonic, uh, Tails.... Winkle and Slappy!

I checked with my stock broker (he's rich, not broke) and he told me Sonic's IP is at about 10%. Talk about embarrassing on Sega's part.
Dunkley
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(09-12-2016, 07:09 PM)

Originally Posted by ElectricBlanketFire

What's happening with it?

It's a game partly made by ascended Sonic modders/fangame makers.
redmetal86
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(09-12-2016, 07:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by NOLA_Gaffer

What Sega should be doing is encouraging fan games of the hundreds of other IP they've just been sitting on for two-plus decades doing nothing with.

We've already got enough Sonic games, both fan-made and official. Let's bring back Space Channel 5, Golden Axe, Ristar, and all the other forgotten Sega properties.

Fan made Seaman 3. Let's go.
MrBadger
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(09-12-2016, 07:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by liquidtmd

Fans do what Sega don't

TBF the last good Sonic was more recent than the last good Metroid
Bio-Frost
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(09-12-2016, 07:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Piccoro

But, but, Streets of Rage Remake?...

That was years ago and likely have different people in charge now. Plus its not like its hard to find, sega could of easily tired to remove it from the net yet a quick google finds the game and a patch for it.

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