That's typically a sign of a driver crash and "recovery". Try another demanding game next time before reboot see if it also runs worse than normal.
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Forza Horizon 3 PC Performance Thread
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That's typically a sign of a driver crash and "recovery". Try another demanding game next time before reboot see if it also runs worse than normal.
Lemonade727
Member
I will say I'm not getting it as often, but stuttering is still present at locked 30 with 8x msaa for me.
Dee Dah Dave
Member
Yes that's probably the case. I run a pretty high overclock on my 980Ti, especially the memory and it's possible it's just not fully stable.
Having said that I've had no issues with other games for a long time now. It even cruises through GTAV on 4K max which is supposed to be one of the best current in game GPU overclock tests.
So it may be my overclock but could also just be a dodgy driver / game.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
Waiting on my New PC parts to arrive, I thought I'd fiddle with the settings to see If I could get anything out of the game. Lo and Behold on absolute minimum settings and a reboot of the game I was able to get a stable-ish framerate 40-70 FPS. Its hilarious though, moving one setting up even once results in an unplayable mess. Secondly, after some time passes, about an hour, the game starts to chug more and more until its just an indiscernible mess. Game's still a blast on these absolutely horrid settings, and I'll have some perspective when I'm finally able to bump up these low low settings.
This game's a real piece of work I tells ya'.
This game's a real piece of work I tells ya'.
LithiumSpade
Member
Wait, really? I can manage 1080p/30 on Ultra on an R9 380...as long as I stay outside of Surfers Paradise. Managed to complete enough events there to open up a new festival site in the Outback, which runs perfectly, but it was tough. Perfectly content to play the rest of the game in this manner and hope that they fix performance in that area in a patch.
I literally love this game. Shame about the state of it but I don't have an XB1 so I'm just happy that I have the option to play it at all.
Robobandit
Member
pretty sure it's just the detail level of the shadows displayed
did you use the windows 10 video recording or something else? I'm having trouble getting fraps or nvidia shadow play to do anything with this game. Like the game ignores them.
Sword Of Doom
Member
Don't know if others have noticed but even with shadows on Ultra, the shadows on the road from the trees looks very low res to me when I'm driving. This game is all kinds of fucked up technically
Taking out the ram will just give me an out of memory error.
Memory tests are a valid method for checking memory.
jediyoshi
Member
ShadowPlay, it's odd though. I start the recording on the desktop and then alt-tab into the game. The bottom right indicator disappears but it'll still be recording. Windows key into the desktop to stop the recording there.
Also make sure ShadowPlay is set to record the desktop
alt+q -> settings -> privacy control
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'd try other games first. This game is a mess, I wouldn't automatically assume it's a hardware issue
I had my system freeze up and had to restart while
Playing this game and I've never had that happen in the two years I've had my PC
Dee Dah Dave
Member
I've had several BSOD's, all giving the 0xd1 stop code which points to a memory problem.
My RAM is fine though, it's been heavily tested prior to this game.
My RAM is fine though, it's been heavily tested prior to this game.
https://youtu.be/VACUAnzgLRU
Recorded another short video of my performance, settings at the end.
It's smoother for me actually playing due to G-Sync, but overall still having a pretty good time with it. Definitely not where I'd like it to be, still some annoying dips that you see on a couple of occasions in the video.
Recorded another short video of my performance, settings at the end.
It's smoother for me actually playing due to G-Sync, but overall still having a pretty good time with it. Definitely not where I'd like it to be, still some annoying dips that you see on a couple of occasions in the video.
So, have you run it with stock settings? No O'clock?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCBpSGr-qdQ
some footage of a race in surfer's paradise in the rain at 1440p. video settings right at the beginning. basically high preset with 4xMSAA. recorded with geforce experience (is that shadowplay?).
6600k @ 4ghz
GTX1070
16gb DDR4 3000
some footage of a race in surfer's paradise in the rain at 1440p. video settings right at the beginning. basically high preset with 4xMSAA. recorded with geforce experience (is that shadowplay?).
6600k @ 4ghz
GTX1070
16gb DDR4 3000
I too have had much success using the cockpit view in Surfer's Paradise. It's the only camera mode that affords me a steady 60fps in that area of the map.
I don't know if it's Norton or what but I can only play the game after a computer restart. Every other time I try it, it CTDs right after the playground logo.
WIndows 10 64 bit Insider Preview Build (<---this might be the issue)
Nvidia Drivers: 372.90
i7 2600k @ 4.4 GHz
MSI GTX 980 Ti @ 1340MHz (stock with power target/temp increased)
8 GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 @ 1600? (whatever XMP defaults too)
I'm not sure if Norton is the issue but I don't want to install my ANTIVIRUS software for one damn game.
WIndows 10 64 bit Insider Preview Build (<---this might be the issue)
Nvidia Drivers: 372.90
i7 2600k @ 4.4 GHz
MSI GTX 980 Ti @ 1340MHz (stock with power target/temp increased)
8 GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 @ 1600? (whatever XMP defaults too)
I'm not sure if Norton is the issue but I don't want to install my ANTIVIRUS software for one damn game.
Great suggestion and thanks for responding! You may have just saved my sanity. I've spent a LOT of time googling this and never heard mention of this suggestion. I definitely have 2x HDDs hooked up, I'll give this a try tomorrow.
Do you have to keep your second drive disconnected or can you reconnect it after Windows boots a few times to the primary?
Sniffynose
Member
If you have any usb card readers or external drives disconnect them, that's why mine kept looping the pos
Codeacious
Banned
Ugh, these CTDs are really getting annoying. Event Viewer is showing that the display driver is crashing, but I haven't managed to reproduce the issue on any other game/benchmark (even while testing immediately after FH3 crashes).
Have you tried the auto detected settings? Overclocking?
I've had this happen once (probably not played as long as you though). It also happened on NMS which suffered from heavy stutters before it was patched.
What i think is happening is that the system believes the driver has hung (because of a long stutter) and restarts it. In the case of this game, when the driver stops responding, the game stops responding as well. When this happened to me on NMS, i could just keep playing after it recovered. It's different on certain games.
Personally i'm just waiting on a patch, as it's quite unsettling that a game is unoptimized to the point it's crashing kernel drivers.
For me, the game is running pretty much stutter and lag free. Very rarely happens, and just for a second if it happens. Even Surfer's is smooth sailing.
4790k @ 4.4
16Gb Ram
GTX1080 @ 2ghz
Affinity and priority fix
Nvidia Control Panel settings set to:
Prefer Maximum Performance
Shader Cache off
Maximum Pre-rendered frames 1
In game settings Ultra, 4xMSAA, no motion blur, 1080p, V-Synced to 48 FPS. Never drops below 48, so I'm happy with that.
4790k @ 4.4
16Gb Ram
GTX1080 @ 2ghz
Affinity and priority fix
Nvidia Control Panel settings set to:
Prefer Maximum Performance
Shader Cache off
Maximum Pre-rendered frames 1
In game settings Ultra, 4xMSAA, no motion blur, 1080p, V-Synced to 48 FPS. Never drops below 48, so I'm happy with that.
s-bojan
Banned
Those are stock clocks?
I have to decide if I should upgrade to 1070, or maybe save a bit for 1080.
980ti @ 1473Mhz
6700k @ 4.5Ghz
16Gb DDR4 @ 3000MHz
SSD
W10
372.90
144Hz monitor @ 1929x1080
VSync off, unlocked framerate
Max settings everything except MSAA x4.
The vast majority of the game is spent comfortably above 60fps, but I've seen momentary dips as low as 45. The start of a coastal race where the whole grid is slicing through water springs to mind. There is some micro-stutter but it is rare and unpredictable. Might happen twice in quick succession, then nothing at all for several minutes. It's infrequent enough to have minimal impact on my enjoyment of the game anyway.
I also downsampled the game from 2560x1440 using the same settings and minimum framerates were the same. On the other hand the stutter was more frequent, and I got my first GPU crash. Will log performance next time as this suggests stuttering is linked to a high GPU load rather than CPU.
As a new owner of a One S I'm able to say that the experience on PC is significantly better than on console. 30fps will always be jarring, while the aliasing sticks out a lot more on my 58 inch TV. HDR doesn't add an awful lot beyond looking brighter and more saturated. It's neat to swap between the two formats though and have your progress saved.
Negatives:
Game sometimes gets stuck in a loading loop that is only fixed by Alt-tabbing.
I'm using a Wii U pro controller on PC and cannot for the life of me configure manual controls. Default profiles all lack a 'down shift', and custom is impossible because there are not enough buttons on the controller to assign all functions. Anyone know any workarounds?
6700k @ 4.5Ghz
16Gb DDR4 @ 3000MHz
SSD
W10
372.90
144Hz monitor @ 1929x1080
VSync off, unlocked framerate
Max settings everything except MSAA x4.
The vast majority of the game is spent comfortably above 60fps, but I've seen momentary dips as low as 45. The start of a coastal race where the whole grid is slicing through water springs to mind. There is some micro-stutter but it is rare and unpredictable. Might happen twice in quick succession, then nothing at all for several minutes. It's infrequent enough to have minimal impact on my enjoyment of the game anyway.
I also downsampled the game from 2560x1440 using the same settings and minimum framerates were the same. On the other hand the stutter was more frequent, and I got my first GPU crash. Will log performance next time as this suggests stuttering is linked to a high GPU load rather than CPU.
As a new owner of a One S I'm able to say that the experience on PC is significantly better than on console. 30fps will always be jarring, while the aliasing sticks out a lot more on my 58 inch TV. HDR doesn't add an awful lot beyond looking brighter and more saturated. It's neat to swap between the two formats though and have your progress saved.
Negatives:
Game sometimes gets stuck in a loading loop that is only fixed by Alt-tabbing.
I'm using a Wii U pro controller on PC and cannot for the life of me configure manual controls. Default profiles all lack a 'down shift', and custom is impossible because there are not enough buttons on the controller to assign all functions. Anyone know any workarounds?
Sevenfold
Member
980ti@1460
6700k@4.8
16GB
Installed on an NVME drive.
Game ready drivers.
Yesterday pissed me off with settings that would work for a bit then start to shit themselves, and frame smoothing lurching all over the place or stutter fest, I took the advice from the DF video about the frametimes on the 30fps lock being bang on, and 8xMSAA and higher resolutions increasing performance, and cranked it to 2160p, maxed everything, locked it at 30 in game and turned V-sync off. It's amazing, rock solid, no input lag that I can perceive (17.5 on the TV and wider DS4) and looks incredible (DSR smoothing at 18%) so I'm jumping off the settings merry-go-round at least until patch time.
6700k@4.8
16GB
Installed on an NVME drive.
Game ready drivers.
Yesterday pissed me off with settings that would work for a bit then start to shit themselves, and frame smoothing lurching all over the place or stutter fest, I took the advice from the DF video about the frametimes on the 30fps lock being bang on, and 8xMSAA and higher resolutions increasing performance, and cranked it to 2160p, maxed everything, locked it at 30 in game and turned V-sync off. It's amazing, rock solid, no input lag that I can perceive (17.5 on the TV and wider DS4) and looks incredible (DSR smoothing at 18%) so I'm jumping off the settings merry-go-round at least until patch time.
KingpinZero
Member
Ok ive finally settled after weeks of testing and trial/error.
So, only tweak im using is low priority+core 0 disabled (3770k here), Gaming Mode (with ProcessLasso "always" auto settings).
Everything else is game settings:
Vsync, 60fps, all ultra (no framesmoothing no Dynamic) along with 8xMsaa.
Near to zero stuttering, fps as low as 45 in very heavy situations, but im keeping mostly 60fps all around. No hitches.
2560x1080 / 980ti.
So, only tweak im using is low priority+core 0 disabled (3770k here), Gaming Mode (with ProcessLasso "always" auto settings).
Everything else is game settings:
Vsync, 60fps, all ultra (no framesmoothing no Dynamic) along with 8xMsaa.
Near to zero stuttering, fps as low as 45 in very heavy situations, but im keeping mostly 60fps all around. No hitches.
2560x1080 / 980ti.
dr_rus
Member
Doesn't look like CPU tricks help much here: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Forza.../Specials/Benchmarks-Test-DirextX-12-1208835/
Gtagentleman
Member
The windows key trick saved me a ton of time.
If a load time is longer than usual, press the windows key.
This mostly works for race/bucket list restarts and getting inside the festival garage.
If a load time is longer than usual, press the windows key.
This mostly works for race/bucket list restarts and getting inside the festival garage.
mullet2000
Member
Yup I've realized this as well. Works every time for me.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Is ~60% gpu power consumption an indication of poor utilisation?
Dave_6
Member
My setup is a 3570K@4.4, 8 GB of DDR3 and a G1 970 with a mild overclock. Playing on a 144hz 1080p monitor and the game is installed on my SSD. I'm pretty sure my RAM isn't helping at all but I can't get the game to run smoothly even locking it at 36 fps. The input lag is pretty bad that way so I just set it back to 72 fps and deal with the stuttering as much as I can.
LostDonkey
Member
It's such a shame shadowplay tops out at 1080p capture. Is there anything else I can use to record 1440 or 4k for this game?
6700k
16gbddr4
1070 G1
Just so you know what I'm playing with.
6700k
16gbddr4
1070 G1
Just so you know what I'm playing with.
Shadowplay can record up to 4K. Go into the settings and pick either 1440p or 4K, but if your monitor is just 1080p and you are using desktop recording, I think you would have to change the desktop resolution for it to record at higher resolutions.
LostDonkey
Member
My monitor is 1440p and I have a 4k TV I've tried recording with as well but the videos always end up just 1080p. I'll have a proper poke around in the settings. I'm sure I had it set but I read in a few places that it tops out at 1080p anyway. Hmmm
This is like the CapsLock trick to speed the loading screens in Xcom2. Nice.
its the Asus rog strix NON OC 1070 @ 1950mhz core and 4000mhz memory.
icecold1983
Member
Is it the same if you lock at 30? I have a 780 and I am debating whether or not to buy this
icecold1983
Member
im sure its fine at 30 aside from the known input lag issue. thats besides the point. hes playing with lower than xbone settings on an overclocked 780ti and look at that performance.
petethepanda
Member
(3570k / 970) Noticed yesterday that there's not much more than 1-2fps difference between the non-dynamic Low and High presets for me. So weird. Both average about 50ish, mid 50s in sparse areas with few cars, 40s in the city.
Robobandit
Member
Don't buy it now. Wait for them to release the demo and then try it.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
It seems like no matter what card you have, you'll be dropping to at best 50fps in certain races.
I have run into a mission that is unplayable for me.. during the first 2 mins of the race everything is glitching out, the sky is dissapearing the textures on stuff are flashing everywhere etc. This goes on until around a specific turn on the track before the game hard locks 100% of the time. I had seen these graphical errors a few times before but they quickly went away, idk what is causing this but it's got me asking myself if its too late to make a dispute with Amazon and get a refund.
I can't believe how poorly this game performs (stuttering, seemingly random frame hits, hard locks/crashes to desktop) and now that I am running into a game breaking bug.. it's just.. ugh. I also have been unable to retrieve ANY of the codes that came with my game, the amzon pre order code was entered in the windows store and the warthog code was as well, neither one will show up in my garage. Clearly we are second class citizens, I had hoped there would be a higher standard for quality in the play anywhere initiative but between this and the abysmal port of Quantum Break I can't say I'm too impressed with MS.
I can't believe how poorly this game performs (stuttering, seemingly random frame hits, hard locks/crashes to desktop) and now that I am running into a game breaking bug.. it's just.. ugh. I also have been unable to retrieve ANY of the codes that came with my game, the amzon pre order code was entered in the windows store and the warthog code was as well, neither one will show up in my garage. Clearly we are second class citizens, I had hoped there would be a higher standard for quality in the play anywhere initiative but between this and the abysmal port of Quantum Break I can't say I'm too impressed with MS.
Snkfanatic
Banned
My biggest issue with the PC version right now is the strange slowdown in the garage when I put parts on the car or even just scroll around in the upgade shop in general. Terrible loading times and it just chugs along when I select different bumpers or something.
Cuban Legend
Member
There's going to be a PC demo? when?