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lachesis
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(11-10-2006, 09:57 PM)
Take it w/ grain of salt of authenticity, and please ignore if this is old news...
but I'm hearing PS3's BC is far from perfect from different places like Ruliweb and 2ch
... and for example: (these games are part of the list, not whole)

Valkyrie Profile - Silmeria:
When playing FMV - sound problems.

Valkyrie Profile
BGM and SFX problems

Sakura Taisen I remake
Title animation freezes

Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden
Voice play-back problems in game.

Minna-no-Golf4 (hotshot golf)
Delayed button press recognition

Final Fantasy XI
no BC for HDD titles as of yet.

http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/status/index.cgi

... if true, this could get ugly.. :( As you can see, those are not some obscure title that you could easily ignore but some major ones.
I'm actually counting on Sony to make up fast and swift updates for these....

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dark10x
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(11-10-2006, 09:59 PM)
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I suppose I'm not too disappointed in the lack of PS2 options right now. I'm buying a US PS3, but outside of maybe one or two exceptions, ever single PS2 game I've purchased in the last year and a half has been Japanese. With region protection still in effect for PS1/2 games, I wouldn't be able to play anything recent.
Jack Random
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(11-10-2006, 10:01 PM)
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i dont see why PS2 BC is that big a deal, i mean, who doesnt have a PS2?

Edit: not that i am looking to get a PS3 or anything
RavenFox
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(11-10-2006, 10:02 PM)
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How the heck is that list a problem? If only like 20 games work out of the 20 gazzillion they have then yeah I would see a problem.
DarienA
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(11-10-2006, 10:02 PM)
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You mean BC isn't 100%??!?!?!!

Shock and f'n Awe!

Sony am doomed, etc...
Aeon712
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(11-10-2006, 10:02 PM)
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Valkyrie Profile - Silmeria:
When playing FMV - sound problems.

That one could be a problem for me as I've stopped playing mine after 2-4hrs for Okami and Madden.
charlequin
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(11-10-2006, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jack Random

i dont see why PS2 BC is that big a deal, i mean, who doesnt have a PS2?

Do you have any idea how long a PS2 usually lasts? :lol
BlueTsunami
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(11-10-2006, 10:04 PM)
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An update just came out (its in the Official PS3 thread) I don't know what it has but maybe some BC updates?
antiloop
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(11-10-2006, 10:05 PM)
Shouldn't have too much problems with BC, it is hardware emulation. Which means it basically is a PS2 in there.
MoxManiac
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(11-10-2006, 10:06 PM)
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VP games not working right is code-red. Get your butts on it, Sony.
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:07 PM)
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Valkyrie Profile has issues on PS2 with BC.

I'm sure it's not 100% compatibility, but it should be up there.
Blimblim
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(11-10-2006, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by DarienA

You mean BC isn't 100%??!?!?!!

Shock and f'n Awe!

Sony am doomed, etc...

Well considering BC is supposed to use actual PS2 processors and have zero visual improvements, yes I'm totally surprised BC isn't working perfectly.
Shapingo
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(11-10-2006, 10:09 PM)
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... if true, this could get ugly.. :( As you can see, those are not some obscure title that you could easily ignore but some major ones.
I'm actually counting on Sony to make up fast and swift updates for these....

lachesis

If it was metal gear, final fantasy, gran turismo, dragon quest, I could see that
but Sakura Taisen and Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden are not on anyones worry list.
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blimblim

Well considering BC is supposed to use actual PS2 processors and have zero visual improvements, yes I'm totally surprised BC isn't working perfectly.

PS2 is using PSone parts and is not perfectly backwards compatible.
Avalon
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(11-10-2006, 10:09 PM)
Oh well.

One more reason to avoid the PS3 for at least another year for me.
Zombie James
(11-10-2006, 10:11 PM)
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Some games no being fully backward compatible is new? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._PlayStation_2

/?
chaostrophy
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(11-10-2006, 10:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

Valkyrie Profile has issues on PS2 with BC.

Maybe it's only if you turn fast loading on or something? I've spent well over 100 hours with VP on a PS2 and have had no problems whatsoever.
lachesis
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(11-10-2006, 10:12 PM)

Originally Posted by Shapingo

If it was metal gear, final fantasy, gran turismo, dragon quest, I could see that
but Sakura Taisen and Super Robot Wars Alpha Gaiden are not on anyones worry list.

In US, true. But they are still pretty big franchises in Japan.
Wario64
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(11-10-2006, 10:12 PM)

Originally Posted by _leech_

Some games no being fully backward compatible is new? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._PlayStation_2

/?

Valkyie Profile is hardly considered shovelware (which is what that list is)...
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Wario64

Valkyie Profile is hardly considered shovelware (which is what that list is)...

It doesn't work perfectly on the PS2 either!

And I thought Famitsu confirmed hard drive support for games...have people downloaded the first update?
Blimblim
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(11-10-2006, 10:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

PS2 is using PSone parts and is not perfectly backwards compatible.

Yes, but IIRC the actual GPU part was emulated (thus allowing visual improvements). And PS1 BC on PS2 was still very good.
I hope these games are exceptions. Not that I really care about playing PS2 without any visual improvements anyway, I have my pstwo for this...
S. L.
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(11-10-2006, 10:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

It doesn't work perfectly on the PS2 either!

And I thought Famitsu confirmed hard drive support for games...have people downloaded the first update?

yea i had my VP1 freeze on my ps2 two or three times during a playtrough
and that wikipedia PS2 BC list isn't complete either
Avalon
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(11-10-2006, 10:19 PM)
Well... at least thing like this can be fixed this time around.
Mefisutoferesu
(11-10-2006, 10:20 PM)
OK, I "fixed" the list, NOW LEAVE ME ALONE ERIC!! It's pretty obvious that's it's just as I said the only games I left out were either hgames or just crappy games like those form Idea Factory or those Pachinko games, and not just because no one care, but because they have long names that are a pain to write, get repeated 4 times because Japanese gaming tastes SUCK (US/EU does too), and because many of the problems get fixed in later firmware!! I'm not trying to "sway opinion". Please, for the love of god STOP! Thanks.

1st 1500 games:

EA Best Hits 007 Night Fire & 007 Everything or Nothing - Ingame, sometimes the BGM don't play properly.
Kagerou II - Dark illusion- PlayStation 2 the Best - Several specific scene audio playback has errors. Releases, 11/30/06
Ultimate Hits Front Mission 2 - Not yet tested.
Otome no Jijou (Budget) - Certain movies do not play properly. (Firmware 1.10 verified to fix problem)
Otome no Jijou (LE) - Certain movies do not play properly. (Firmware 1.10 verified to fix problem)
DMC PlayStation 2 the Best - Title demo sometime freezes
Phantom Brave 2 Shuume Hajimemashita PlayStation 2 the Best - When you move the characters ingame, the screen messes up.
Jissen PACHISURO Hisshou Hou! Hokuto no Ken SE (Regular Ed.) - Sometimes pressing the stop button has lag.
Koei Tenban Series Shin Sangoku Musou 3 - In certain scenes the BGM messes up. Sometimes the demo movies/pictures freeze.
School Rumble Nigakki Kyoufu no (?) Natsu Gasshuku! Youkan ni Yurei Utsuru!? Otakara wo Megutte Makkou Shoubu!!! no Maki - Title Movie messes up with HDMI out. (Firmware 1.10 fixes problem)
School Rumble Nigakki Kyoufu no (?) Natsu Gasshuku! Youkan ni Yurei Utsuru!? Otakara wo Megutte Makkou Shoubu!!! no Maki (LE) - Title Movie messes up with HDMI out. (Firmware 1.10 fixes problem)
Ultimate Hits Valkyrie Profile - Valkyrie Profile - Some BGMs/sound effects don't play right during gameplay
Ultimate Hits Star Ocean Till the End of Time Director's Cut - Movie playback sometimes experiences audio problems.
Daito Giken Premium PACHISURO Collection Yoshimune - During a save the BGM messes up. Sometimes there's lag hitting the stop button.
Ikusagami PlayStation 2 the Best - There are times when the character serif (?) gets messed up.
GT4 PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes it black screens after title demo
Valkyrie Profile 2 Silmeria - Sometimes audio plays funny during certain movies
Colorful BOX ~to Love~ 2800 Collection - Movie BGMs sometimes messes up.
Yamasa Digi World SP Moeyo! Koutto Shakujo - Sometimes there's lag when pressing the stop button.
Final Fantasy XI Atorugan no Hihou Kakuchou Data Disk - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
Play Online / Final Fantasy XI One Pack 2006 - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
IF Collection Spectral Force Chronicle - During a scene change the picture can go haywire for a second.
Final Approach (Princess Soft Collection) - At the configuration screen sometimes the BGM settings can not be changed.
DX Jinsei Game V PS one Books - Black screen after PS logo.
Shin Onimusha Dawn of Dreams - Screen is shifted 2cm to the right.
OZ (Konami the Best) - Sometime it fails to save or load.
SIMPLE 2000 Series Vol.94 THE Akachan Pion ~Come on Baby~ - The Dance Battle Summer/Winter Parts have the screen freeze. (Firmware 1.10 relegates the problem to audio playback problems some glitches at the title screen)
Chaos Field New Order - When you skip the instruction screen, the screen messes up for a moment.
Kenka Banchou PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes the Character serifs (icons?) mess up
Exciting PRO Wrestling6 YUKE’s the Best - There are several spots in the game where the screen messes up.
Ikusagami - There are times when the character serif (?) gets messed up.
SNK Best Collection Metal Slug 4 - Sometime a scene transition causes the screen to mess up.
Xenosaga Episode 2 (Beyond good and evil) - Sometime the opening movie stutters and has BGM issues.
Tekken 5 PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes the BGM does not play during several fight modes' character select screen. The screen freezes returning from "Arcade history".
Minna no GOLF 4 PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes there's button lag.
Clover Hearts Best Ed. - Screen freezes at Opening movie end.
Best Hit Selection ONLY YOU Rebel Cross - Title menu character serif and animations sometimes mess up.
Nanobreaker (Konami the Best) - During or at the end of movies the screen sometimes freezes.
Code Age Commanders ~Tsugu Mono Tsugareru Mono~ - Sometimes is fails to save and will corruptedly load a save.
IF Collection Cardinale Arc ~Konton no Fuusatsu~ - In some spots, sometimes the character audio messes up.
Richar Burns Rally - Sometimes the screen freezes.
IF Collection Generation of Chaos NEXT ~Ushinawareshi Kizuna~ - Sometimes the character audio messes up.
Slotter UP Mania 7 Saishin Saikyou! Pioneer MAX - Sometimes the reel's picture does show properly.
Shikigami no Shirou Shichagatsu Genzoukyoku - BGM and SE don't play outside of characters.
IF Collection Generation of Chaos III ~Toki no Fuuin~ - Some scene sometimes mess up playing the BGM.
(Super Robot Taisen Alpha Premium Edition Doukonyou) Super Robot Taisen Alpha Gaiden - Sometimes the sound messes up.
SuperLite 2000 Series Memories Off (Sore kara) - Part of the song in the opening movie doesn't play back.
Puchi Copter 2 LE - Not yet tested
Puchi Copter 2 Regular Ed. - Not yet tested
Puchi Copter 2 - Not yet tested
Ultraman PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes Stage 2 freezes
ACE Combat 5 PlayStation 2 the Best - New Game movie sometimes freezes at the end.
Magna Carta PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometime the opening movie freezes.
Shin Sangoku Musou 3 Mega pack - During certain scenes sometime the BGM messes up. Sometimes the demos freeze.
Shin Sangoku Musou 3 Playstation 2 the Best - During certain scenes sometime the BGM messes up. Sometimes the demos freeze.
Kagerou II -Dark illusion- - Several specific scene audio playback has errors.
OZ - Save load troubles. (Firmware 1.10 fixes the problem)
Tennis no Oujisama Rush & Dream (Konami Dendou Selection) - Some scenes have no audio.
Capcom Retro Game Collection Vol. 4 - Some spots have BGM playback problems.
Rakushou! PACHISURO Sengen 3 RIO De Carnival 600 Shiki - Sometimes the stop button lags.
Soccer Life 2 - Sometime the title screen BGM doesn't play properly.
Kenka Banchou Regular Ed - Sometimes the character serif (?) messes up.
Kenka Banchou First Press Ed - Sometimes the character serif (?) messes up.
Koei Teiban Series Taikou Risshiden IV - The screen freeze at several scenes.
SIMPLE2000 Series Vol.78 THE Uchuu Taisen - Sometimes the SE don't play.
Capcom Retro Game Collection Vol. 3 - Some spots have BGM playback problems.
Shikigami no Shirou II (Taito Best) - BGM and SE don't play outside of characters.
EA Best Hits Burnout 3 Takedown - Sometime some SE don't play in the races.
Front Mission Online - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
C@M Station Tsujouhan (Soft Tanbinhan) - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
C@M Station Doukon (Eyetoy Kamera & USB Headset Doukonhan) - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
Spectral Force Chronicle - At scene transition the screen messes up for a second.
Spectral Force Chronicle 10th Anniversary Box - At scene transition the screen messes up for a second.
Taisen Hot Gimmick Access Suzume Tsujou Han - Screen freezes at story mode screen when timer reaches 0.
Taisen Hot Gimmick Access Suzume Special Ed - Screen freezes at story mode screen when timer reaches 0.
Tekken 5 - Sometimes the BGM does not play during several fight modes' character select screen. The screen freezes returning from "Arcade history".
Sentou Kokka Kai New Operations - Some scenes have problems with BGM.
Cafe Lindbark -summer season- Sweet Edition - If BGM is set to off it can't be turn on. Pressing /\ start resets BGM to on.
Cafe Lindbark -summer season- Regular Ed - If BGM is set to off it can't be turn on. Pressing /\ start resets BGM to on.
IF Collection Shin Kigensou Spectral Souls - Some scenes sometimes mess up playing the BGM.
Winning Eleven 8 Liveware Evolution Information - Somtimes the video freezes during play.
Onimusha - Sometimes the audio doesn't play right during movies
Play Online / Final Fantasy XI One Pack 2005 - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
Jissen PACHISURO Hisshouhou! Hokuto no Ken Plus - Sometimes the stop button lags.
Zeonic Fron Kidou Senshi Gandum 0079 THE BEST - In some spots character dialogue doesn't play.
Valkyrie Profile PS one Books - Some BGMs/sound effects don't play right during gameplay
Exciting Pro Wrestling 6 SMACKDOWN! Vs RAW - Some spot the screen sometimes messes up.
Memories Off After Rain Vol.1 Aridzuru Tsujou Han - Sometime the movie BGM don't play properly.
Memories Off After Rain Vol.1 Aridzuru Special Ed - Sometime the movie BGM don't play properly.
Nanobreaker - During or at the end of movies the screen sometimes freezes.
Radiata Stories - Sometimes the movie BGMs don't properly play.
GT4 - Sometimes it black screens after title demo
Koei Teiban Series Daikou Umi Jidai IV Porto Estado - Not yet tested.
Nobunaga no Yabou Online -Tappi no Shou- - Currently PS2 HDD games aren't supported.
Tennis no Oujisama Rush & Dream Tsuujou Repeat Han - Some scenes have no audio.
EUROPEAN CLUB SOCCER Winning Eleven Tactics - Sometimes freezes when movies play.
Crash Bandicoot Crash and Cortex's Yabou - Sometimes the game screen messes up.
Tennis no Oujisama Rush & Dream Tsuujou Han - Some scenes have no audio.
Densha de GO! -Ryojou Hen- Taito Best - Sometimes the movie audio doesn't play right.
Exciting Pro Wrestling 5 YUKE’s the Best - Sometimes the screen freezes and the end of the "Create" screen.
Magna Carta - Sometime the opening movie freezes.
SIMPLE2000 Series Ultimate Vol.21 Kenka Joutou! Yankee Banchou ~Shouwa 99 nen no Densestsu~ - Some scenes, sometimes the character audio doesn't play.
Makai Senki Digaea PlayStation 2 the Best - Sometimes the screen messes up on the character move screens.
Way of the Samurai 2 PlayStation 2 the Best - After a certain point the character serif messes up.
Armored Core Ninebreaker - Title screen background messes up sometimes.
Rakushou! PACHISURO Sengen 2 Decadent Juujika - Transitions to menu/title screen sometimes freezes. (Frimware 1.10 fixes the problem).
Last edited by Mefisutoferesu; 11-11-2006 at 10:43 AM.
TheIkariWarrior
(11-10-2006, 10:20 PM)
IIRC, and i might be wrong, the EE+GS chip in the slim PS2 emulates less PS1 games than the old PS2, and emulates some games worse. that chip is in the first-gen PS3... so who knows.
Error
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(11-10-2006, 10:21 PM)
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VP1 runs good on PS2 I dont know what you guys are talking about
Pimpbaa
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(11-10-2006, 10:31 PM)
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No doubt firmware updates will resolve most compatibility issues.
Manp
(11-10-2006, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by _leech_

Some games no being fully backward compatible is new? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._PlayStation_2

/?

well, actually there are a few PS2 games that don't even work on all of the many PS2 models

http://eu.playstation.com/iw_images/...es_3_en_GB.pdf
http://eu.playstation.com/iw_images/...es_4_en_GB.pdf

:)
Last edited by Manp; 11-10-2006 at 10:37 PM.
MoxManiac
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(11-10-2006, 10:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by Error2k4

VP1 runs good on PS2 I dont know what you guys are talking about

Yeah same here.

How can people pass off VP:S as not being on anyone's worry list? It's one of the best RPGs this generation!
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Error2k4

VP1 runs good on PS2 I dont know what you guys are talking about

It crashes for some people. It's not a guaranteed occurrence.
DarienA
The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
(11-10-2006, 10:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Blimblim

Well considering BC is supposed to use actual PS2 processors and have zero visual improvements, yes I'm totally surprised BC isn't working perfectly.

PS2 used PSOne parts and didn't get 100% BC.

edit: Beaten, beaten.

Conclusion is we're not getting 100% BC, anyone who thought we were.. pipe dreamin.
gofreak
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(11-10-2006, 10:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mefisutoferesu

1st 500 games:

DMC at title video screws up
Phantom Brave Characters missing/ title video screws up
Snagoku Musou 3 BGM
Valkyrie Profile BGM
SO3 Audio glitching
GT4 title demo screw up
VP2 playback screw ups
FFXI HDD support

Some pachinko and Hgames too, but I ignored those.


? You/someone has tested 500 games?!

edit - oh, oops, I see where this is coming from now.
Last edited by gofreak; 11-10-2006 at 10:46 PM.
MoxManiac
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(11-10-2006, 10:35 PM)
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Wow big list. this is already looking worse than PS2's BC :(
Jim
(11-10-2006, 10:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pimpbaa

No doubt firmware updates will resolve most compatibility issues.

We need a translated version of this, to see what's actually new in the just released version 1.10 of the firmware:
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/index.html
Curious to see if they have an BC fixes yet.

It only says, horribly translated:

"PlayStation® of the part in PS3™ and operational status of the PlayStation®2 standard software were renewed. < The private search sight http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/status/ > with you can verify up-to-date operational status. "

Something of importance has to be included in that ~100 MB file (http://djp01.ps3.update.playstation....b/PS3UPDAT.PUP)
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by MoxManiac

Wow big list. this is already looking worse than PS2's BC :(

Difference is that Sony can patch the PS3 and they couldn't patch the PS2.

Still, to have tested 500 games (if that is what it is implying) and to have a few games mess up their intro loops is not bad...can you still play them?
MoxManiac
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(11-10-2006, 10:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

Difference is that Sony can patch the PS3 and they couldn't patch the PS2.

Still, to have tested 500 games (if that is what it is implying) and to have a few games mess up their intro loops is not bad...can you still play them?

It just worries me. If there are these many glitches with actual PS2 hardware inside, what's it going to be like when PS3 BC goes software only?
Bebpo
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(11-10-2006, 10:39 PM)
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Wasn't there just a news story 2-3 days ago about FFXI running perfect on PS3, which showed HDD games would work fine on PS3 BC?
Lord Error
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(11-10-2006, 10:39 PM)

Originally Posted by Mefisutoferesu

1st 500 games:

DMC at title video screws up
Phantom Brave Characters missing/ title video screws up
Snagoku Musou 3 BGM
Valkyrie Profile BGM
SO3 Audio glitching
GT4 title demo screw up
VP2 playback screw ups
FFXI HDD support

Some pachinko and Hgames too, but I ignored those.

I wonder what does stuff like "title video screws up". Is it just the video glitches, but you can play the game, or does the game freeze during the intro video.
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Bebpo

Wasn't there just a news story 2-3 days ago about FFXI running perfect on PS3, which showed HDD games would work fine on PS3 BC?

Yeah, it was in Famitsu. I mentioned it earlier.
gofreak
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(11-10-2006, 10:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jim

Something of importance has to be included in that ~100 MB file (http://djp01.ps3.update.playstation....b/PS3UPDAT.PUP)


That's interesting, leads to a search page..for checking if a title is supported or not? Haven't been able to use it really..
Mefisutoferesu
(11-10-2006, 10:44 PM)
Sorry, I'm trying to go through them as fast as possible, so yeah. It seems some games don't play the title screen videos and the sort so you get a blank screen or a frozen screen or it locks up etc.

P.S. Does anyone actually care about this or should I stop?
DarienA
The black man everyone at Activision can agree on
(11-10-2006, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mefisutoferesu

Sorry, I'm trying to go through them as fast as possible, so yeah. It seems some games don't play the title screen videos and the sort so you get a blank screen or a frozen screen or it locks up etc.

P.S. Does anyone actually care about this or should I stop?

Keep going GAF needs ammunition!
gofreak
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(11-10-2006, 10:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mefisutoferesu

Sorry, I'm trying to go through them as fast as possible, so yeah. It seems some games don't play the title screen videos and the sort so you get a blank screen or a frozen screen or it locks up etc.

P.S. Does anyone actually care about this or should I stop?

We care, I think. Even if you could give us a rough idea of numbers of titles that have issues versus the total number, that'd be great.

20-30 games out of 1000 thusfar looks pretty good, though.
MoxManiac
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(11-10-2006, 10:47 PM)
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try the SMT games!
Fatghost
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(11-10-2006, 10:50 PM)
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How many games are not working period?

How many games have minor compatibility issues (FMV problems, glitches)?


My guess is even counting minor glitches as incompatible, we'll still see 98+% of PS2 games working on PS3.


Someone try Street Fighter 3!
Y2Kev
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(11-10-2006, 10:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by gofreak

We care, I think. Even if you could give us a rough idea of numbers of titles that have issues versus the total number, that'd be great.

20-30 games out of 1000 thusfar looks pretty good, though.

2-3% failure rate? Pretty good!

(i cant do math help me)
Last edited by Y2Kev; 11-10-2006 at 10:56 PM.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
(11-10-2006, 10:52 PM)
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are there any games that DONT have problems? from that list, it seems like there's a lot of popular games that are having problems. =(
gofreak
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(11-10-2006, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by davepoobond

are there any games that DONT have problems? from that list, it seems like there's a lot of popular games that are having problems. =(

That list is out of the first 1000 games, so..
Fatghost
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(11-10-2006, 10:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Y2Kevbug11

.2-.3% failure rate? Pretty good!

(i cant do math help me)


30/1000 = 3%
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
(11-10-2006, 10:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by gofreak

That list is out of the first 1000 games, so..

oh, he's already tried 1000 games? i thought he was just editing his post or whatever

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